TMNT rogues gallery expansion

[turkishproverb]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

If you have a parallel universe where Raph is a "twisted, evil, bloodthirsty killing machine."

2 out of 3 aint bad.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by turkishproverb

2 out of 3 aint bad.

I wouldn't call Raphael a "killing machine."

The rest don't apply. Even in a book like Body Count.

[Dragon Turtle]

Originally Posted by TristanHuwJones

Initially they were more tech based visually, but then they became more like the Hydra-esque dudes we see now. They've undergone upgrades since though (you can check out Andres' designs on both our blogs). I think Paul is going to be drawing them in a slightly transitional fashion in #59.

I was wondering if Razorback's organization has a name, I thought it would be cool to see them or some other organization given a parody name similar to the Foot Clan.

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

Andrew brings a good point... The Dark Turtles wouldn't even have to look like the FF versions at all. Hell, those guys hardly even looked like Turtles at all. And the fact that Sh'Okanabo made them would probably be taken out. Either that or make a Slash, that most likely wouldn't have to be called Slash either.

I actually like Adrian Barrios's designs (especially Dark Raph's Ankylosaurus inspired design), much more visually interesting then just having them be exact duplicates, unless they were given evil mirrior universe goatees.

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I wouldn't call Raphael a "killing machine."

The rest don't apply. Even in a book like Body Count.

Yeah Raph isn't a "twisted, evil, bloodthirsty killing machine", just an angry rebellious loner with a penchant for homicidal outbursts... .J/K (seriously, get help Raph)

[TristanHuwJones]

I was wondering if Razorback's organization has a name, I thought it would be cool to see them or some other organization given a parody name similar to the Foot Clan.

Razorback's little group of men (The Razorbacks) are a selection of mercenaries working directly under him. He was involved with another group, but I don't want to say too much about that. I've dropped a few hints already, all I can say is this: just wait until you see the last page of #61

[deathtojohnny]

I came up with a short story about Slash being the fifth turtle that was discarded by Splinter for being malicious and deformed. From the sub-sewers, Slash grew up watching the other turtles with envy and copied their training and attire (bandanas and belts).

Finally, after 16 years, Slash confronted his "brothers" and Splinter. At first the turtles grow embittered with Splinter for not telling them about Slash and feeling like any one of them could've been the turtle casted out, but Slash eventually reveals his true colors and fights the turtles.

(Let me know what y'all think, and I could post it if you'd like.)

[CyberCubed]

Both Slash and Armaggon would be the ideal two mutants to bring into Mirage continuity over the others.

An evil-killing turtle and a mutant Shark mutant would be great.

[Tuxedo Moroboshi]

However, Armaggon would kind of feel like they were simply redoing Shark-clone Shredder. Unless they brought back Shark-clone Shredder and started developing him into becoming Armaggon (or at least a similar character).

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Clown Prince of Crime

However, Armaggon would kind of feel like they were simply redoing Shark-clone Shredder.

Or Mako from Vol. 3.

Though if you want to see a Mirage TMNT killing a Shark creature, look no further than here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCHzkbxawvI&fmt=18

[Dragon Turtle]

Originally Posted by deathtojohnny

I came up with a short story about Slash being the fifth turtle that was discarded by Splinter for being malicious and deformed. From the sub-sewers, Slash grew up watching the other turtles with envy and copied their training and attire (bandanas and belts).

Finally, after 16 years, Slash confronted his "brothers" and Splinter. At first the turtles grow embittered with Splinter for not telling them about Slash and feeling like any one of them could've been the turtle casted out, but Slash eventually reveals his true colors and fights the turtles.

(Let me know what y'all think, and I could post it if you'd like.)

That would be an interesting take on Splinter, a good villain adds another perspective to the protagonist's character.

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Both Slash and Armaggon would be the ideal two mutants to bring into Mirage continuity over the others.

An evil-killing turtle and a mutant Shark mutant would be great.

If they were going to keep the "future shark" angle of Armaggon's character it would be interesting to see them tie him to Savanti Romero and/or Chote.

[turkishproverb]

Originally Posted by deathtojohnny

I came up with a short story about Slash being the fifth turtle that was discarded by Splinter for being malicious and deformed. From the sub-sewers, Slash grew up watching the other turtles with envy and copied their training and attire (bandanas and belts).

Finally, after 16 years, Slash confronted his "brothers" and Splinter. At first the turtles grow embittered with Splinter for not telling them about Slash and feeling like any one of them could've been the turtle casted out, but Slash eventually reveals his true colors and fights the turtles.

(Let me know what y'all think, and I could post it if you'd like.)

Hmm... might want 2 versions of the story, one showing that splinter, while somewhat at fault, wasn't being as bad as Slash says (His poor broken mind would have embellished) but otherwise I love it.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Originally Posted by deathtojohnny

I came up with a short story about Slash being the fifth turtle that was discarded by Splinter for being malicious and deformed. From the sub-sewers, Slash grew up watching the other turtles with envy and copied their training and attire (bandanas and belts).

Finally, after 16 years, Slash confronted his "brothers" and Splinter. At first the turtles grow embittered with Splinter for not telling them about Slash and feeling like any one of them could've been the turtle casted out, but Slash eventually reveals his true colors and fights the turtles.

(Let me know what y'all think, and I could post it if you'd like.)

Which TMNT universe?

[deathtojohnny]

Originally Posted by J 1982

Which TMNT universe?

It's ubique, like the 2007 TMNT movie. The timeline is not even specified. It's just a stand-alone story.

The only characters in the story are the Turtles and Splinter, and how they deal with Slash's arrival.

Splinter, guilt-ridden, asks Slash for forgiveness and leaves the lair to be alone to meditate.

Donatello tries to educate Slash, while Leonardo tries to train him.
Michelangelo is a little uneasy around Slash at first, but he starts to come around, while Raphael totally distrusts him.

It isn't until Michelangelo is nearly mauled, that the Turtles realize that Splinter's instincts were right.

If enough of you are interested, I will polish the story a bit (I wrote it years ago) and post it. My yearning to merge universes drove me to write this, I'm glad to see many of you feel the same way.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Originally Posted by deathtojohnny

If enough of you are interested, I will polish the story a bit (I wrote it years ago) and post it. My yearning to merge universes drove me to write this, I'm glad to see many of you feel the same way.

Sounds cool.

[CyberCubed]

Having re-read Image recently, I think it would be interesting if Pimiko got a debut in the Mirage universe. They should change her design a bit, but I think Oroku Saki having a daughter could provide some interesting storylines.

The Image run got canceled before they could use her to her full potential, I'd like to see her character return.

[Andrew NDB]

And it seemed that Pimiko was going to do a 180 and become a friend rather than foe of the TMNT. There were good things ahead.

[Dragon Turtle]

I really like the "scion of the villain" concept Pimiko represented. I would like to see the daughter of the Shredder introduced into the Mirage universe, maybe as the leader of the Foot Elite. I could see her as an Azula type character, both cunning and strong enough to take on the turtles and Karai.

And maybe even used to advance Splinter's character, by having him try to stop the cycle of violence between the turtles and the Oroku family.

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

And it seemed that Pimiko was going to do a 180 and become a friend rather than foe of the TMNT. There were good things ahead.

Mirage was on track to do that with the Lady Shredder from Tales of TMNT #22, who was originally suppose to be Tang Shen's sister.

[TristanHuwJones]

Originally Posted by Dragon Turtle

Mirage was on track to do that with the Lady Shredder from Tales of TMNT #22, who was originally suppose to be Tang Shen's sister.

If everything goes okay, she'll be back. But with the twist exposed, we may have to shake things up a little more...

[CyberCubed]

Would have also been interesting to see Pimiko and Lady Shredder (Karai) battle it out for ruler of the Foot Clan.

The only problem I can see with Pimiko is she would wind up turning into a Karai redux, a female ninja who was part of the enemy but becomes friends with the Turtles.

Considering Karai is at peace with the Turtles in Volume 4, perhaps Pimiko can be shoe-horned into Tales somewhere after Volume 2, maybe even having a loose continuity with Image.

[Dan]

What about throwing Tatsu or Khan in there?

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by Dan

What about throwing Tatsu or Khan in there?

Tatsu is really no different than an Elite Guard, just without the uniform.

Tatsu was Shredder's second-in-command, it wouldn't surprise me if the idea behind his character was an Elite Guard. We're also pretty sure Khan in the 2k3 universe was also one of the Elite Guards.