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Old 12-20-2009, 01:50 AM   #1
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Honestly, it does not look very interesting to me at all.
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Old 12-20-2009, 08:30 AM   #2
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It pissed me off that it wasn't the OTHER Avatar. Blaheh.
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Old 12-20-2009, 08:44 AM   #3
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Interesting point of view. I would totally agree that it wasn't a totally original idea, as it was a cowboys and Indians movie in space, but that was kinda the point.

So I will make two points in response to your post, no offense to you though brotha.

1. I am not sure if people will appreciate the scope of what they are seeing, this is more or less history in the making when it comes to visual effects, but I think the viewer is to spoiled by ejaculatory crap like what we see in Transformers and so on. Cameron actually invented all knew technologies to capture this movie. I found the world and beings stunningly beautiful, not only from a visual arts perspective but also from a character design and humanoid form perspective, but thats me I guess.

2. The story and message, is old and true, but what I mean is it was very relevant to today, wrapped in a nice package. I don't just mean the boring global warming and love the environment message, that's just one element. What I mean is we don't see the "good vs evil", "week against the strong" story enough any more. Lets face it, there are perallels in themes with this movie that harken back to the Turtles and the world of media in the late 80s and early 90s, something I think we don't see enough of today. This story had so many layers of important messages, from the understanding of our world around us (which us as a species haven't even scratched the surface), the connection of the human body with powers beyond our pitiful 5 scences that I believe are relevent avenues of discussion in of themselves, colonialism and hatred of what we don't understand (another thing North Americans are MAJORLY guilty of), the harvesting of other cultures their identies and resources which us as Nroth Americans have rapped from parts of the world thousands of times over (i.e. diamond mining in Africa and so on and so on), the list could go on and on with this movie.

I am not saying these things don't appear in other movies, and have already for many years. What I am saying is, I as a viewer and movie lover felt this movie captured many of these important and touching themes, and packaged them in one of the most stunning movies I have ever seen and made it all very enjoyable without going into the realm of cheesy. I bought it full heatedly, but again that's just my opinion.
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Old 12-20-2009, 12:40 PM   #4
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I'm not saying it isn't visually appealing. Everything looks good, better than Transformers (except the main aliens). The planet, the plants, the wild animals, all that is great.

Cameron hired real botanists, and linguists to create everything in the film, and for these things to have a realistic basis (like the florescence/fish/plants in the water of Puerto Rico). Thats great and all....but really, we ll just watched a better looking FERN GULLY.
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Old 12-20-2009, 12:59 PM   #5
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I want to see it, I will let you know that I think after I do.. And what's wrong with Fern Gully?
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Old 12-20-2009, 01:12 PM   #6
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I went and saw Avatar. And just finished watching the Spoony Review this morning.


http://spoonyexperiment.com/2009/12/...-19-09-avatar/ I've gotta agree. The subtext in this movie is really shallow. It's just white guilt and American guilt in one flashy and admittedly beautiful package. But seriously this story was 10 years in the making? Really? Look throughout history everyone in the world has been a bastard to somebody else. I'm American (though not white) and this kind of hollywood lecturing is getting on my nerves. At best I tuned it out but I'd rather not have to deal with these types of messages in my movies.

I'm trying to escape reality not have it haggerdly shoved in my face in high budget theatrical productions.

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