Too fat to fly: The Kevin Smith story

*Cure* · 02-22-2010, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Leonardo Mystic

You have entirely twisted that out of context. Children and babies are supposed to have a little extra padding, but it's being treated as if just one ounce of fat on their bodies is obesity.

No, it's not. Obesity is a medical term with BMI being calculated and whatnot. BMI too high=obese. Although I will admit in rare cases a very fit and lean person can have a high BMI. I forgot how, but I digress.

I don't think this should be closed; nothing's getting TOO out of hand as of yet.

*Duke* · 02-22-2010, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by TheCure

Although I will admit in rare cases a very fit and lean person can have a high BMI. I forgot how, but I digress.

If someone is extremely muscular they can show up as obese on the BMI tables because BMI is calculated by weight and height only. It doesn't calculate body fat at all.

*Cure* · 02-22-2010, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Duke

If someone is extremely muscular they can show up as obese on the BMI tables because BMI is calculated by weight and height only. It doesn't calculate body fat at all.

OK, there you go. Not lean, muscular.

~~Leo656~~ · 02-23-2010, 04:10 AM

Right, BMI isn't as accurate as a Body Fat Percentage reading using calipers and all that along with a table that measures your fat percentage in accordance with your age. There's a type of water displacement measurement technique that's supposed to be the gold standard in mass indexes, but it's rarely ever done as it's impractical and cost-prohibitive. For most people a caliper test is as accurate as they'll ever need to be.

I guess some people missed the part where it's more dangerous to be underweight? I did mention that. Or are people (more like a very small few) just reading what they want and ignoring the rest? That's never happened before...

What's the point in locking a thread that 99% of people are ok with? So one person doesn't like the vibe; s'all good playa, just swagger on. You made a point, called some folks judgmental... you don't agree with consensus, which is fine, but people shouldn't be discouraged from talking about a real problem (or making fun of Kevin Smith) just because it smacks some as insensitive.

If it makes you feel better, next time I start a kickball team, you can be on it. Deal? I'd hate to hurt anyone's feelings.

Just kidding, hurting people's feelings is hilarious.

*XERO* · 02-23-2010, 09:40 AM

Figured this would be appropriate.

*plastroncafe* · 02-23-2010, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Leo656

What's the point in locking a thread that 99% of people are ok with? So one person doesn't like the vibe; s'all good playa, just swagger on. You made a point, called some folks judgmental... you don't agree with consensus, which is fine, but people shouldn't be discouraged from talking about a real problem (or making fun of Kevin Smith) just because it smacks some as insensitive.

It's the internet, it's never JUST one person.
The whole "Die Fattie Die" section of this thread is indeed a thread-jack. And yeah, busting balls because of someone's weight? It's a pretty craptastic thing to do. Especially on a message board dedicated to the Ninja Turtles of all things.

*Mecha Cow* · 02-23-2010, 12:01 PM

"People of size?" "People of size?" Are you kidding me? I'm all for tolerance and I don't have anything against fat people, but this is political correctness taken too far. If you're cool with your size, more power to you, but let's not start pretending it's OK to be unhealthy.

~~Leo656~~ · 02-23-2010, 06:29 PM

Who said "Die Fatty Die"? Awesome.

And I'd like to know who was ball-bustin'. Nobody said anything that wasn't true, being overweight isn't good for you whether it offends you or not, and you can't just wish it away. It's one thing to be comfortable in one's own skin and all, but... yeah, I can't imagine being 400 lbs and having good self-esteem no matter what kind of BS I tried to sell myself. And it isn't like people get that way by accident.

I'unno, whatever. I love Kevin Smith and I hate his drama queen attitude, along with the couple hundred pounds he can barely hide under his trenchcoat anymore. And I'm allowed to feel that way. He can take it, and loves the attention, so good for him.

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Mecha Cow Gorgeous and modest too Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 3,699	"People of size?" "People of size?" Are you kidding me? I'm all for tolerance and I don't have anything against fat people, but this is political correctness taken too far. If you're cool with your size, more power to you, but let's not start pretending it's OK to be unhealthy. __________________

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02-23-2010, 04:10 AM	#4
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Right, BMI isn't as accurate as a Body Fat Percentage reading using calipers and all that along with a table that measures your fat percentage in accordance with your age. There's a type of water displacement measurement technique that's supposed to be the gold standard in mass indexes, but it's rarely ever done as it's impractical and cost-prohibitive. For most people a caliper test is as accurate as they'll ever need to be. I guess some people missed the part where it's more dangerous to be underweight? I did mention that. Or are people (more like a very small few) just reading what they want and ignoring the rest? That's never happened before... What's the point in locking a thread that 99% of people are ok with? So one person doesn't like the vibe; s'all good playa, just swagger on. You made a point, called some folks judgmental... you don't agree with consensus, which is fine, but people shouldn't be discouraged from talking about a real problem (or making fun of Kevin Smith) just because it smacks some as insensitive. If it makes you feel better, next time I start a kickball team, you can be on it. Deal? I'd hate to hurt anyone's feelings. Just kidding, hurting people's feelings is hilarious.

02-23-2010, 06:29 PM	#8
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Who said "Die Fatty Die"? Awesome. And I'd like to know who was ball-bustin'. Nobody said anything that wasn't true, being overweight isn't good for you whether it offends you or not, and you can't just wish it away. It's one thing to be comfortable in one's own skin and all, but... yeah, I can't imagine being 400 lbs and having good self-esteem no matter what kind of BS I tried to sell myself. And it isn't like people get that way by accident. I'unno, whatever. I love Kevin Smith and I hate his drama queen attitude, along with the couple hundred pounds he can barely hide under his trenchcoat anymore. And I'm allowed to feel that way. He can take it, and loves the attention, so good for him.