The Sony Thread

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Remember when PSN was good? Me either.

Seriously, the PS3's wireless has given me nothing but problems. It just randomly cuts out when I'm playing stuff online. I thought it was a router problem, but I tried a different one and I got the same thing. I never have this issue with Live. Granted, I have that connection wired.

I dunno, the PSN games are nice, I guess. I'd just rather play online games on 360.

[GK Punk]

I actually have had more problems with the Xbox live than PSN. (Which is why I stopped paying for XBL, sadly...)

[That Matt Guy]

Originally Posted by Ai

Seriously, the PS3's wireless has given me nothing but problems. It just randomly cuts out when I'm playing stuff online. I thought it was a router problem, but I tried a different one and I got the same thing. I never have this issue with Live. Granted, I have that connection wired.

I had a lot of problems with it too, then I got it wired and now rarely have any connection issues.

I can't really comment on how "good" I think the PSN is because I mostly use it to play Battlefield on, and it serves that purpose fine. If I had a decent PC I'd be playing it on that rather than any console though.

[JameO]

Turned it on to play SOCOM 4 and to my surprise, they still have connections to the update server, so I was forced into a huge update as my console had been off for about 6 months. I ain't anxious for it to be back either, I can wait to play SOCOM online.

About the Xbox Live bit, I have had friends that had flaky issues with wireless as well, but from my view it looked like a router issue. I would rather run cable with repeaters everywhere than to go wireless. A major turning point for me is the large download times for updates that seem to be every week or so. Any xbox live update I received took a few seconds and I was back into my game again. It is almost like they are adding a service pack to the ps3 every week, insane! Anyways, this said I will still be playing games like SOCOM online with friends, but xbox live will always be the better online experience. Sure it has a price tag, but well worth it in my opinion. Now one thing I would like is dedicated servers, heck I would even pay extra monthly for each game if they had dedicated servers. Some games setup just doesn't seem to pick the right host (Black Ops) and leads to host changes and games being dropped.

[JameO]

Originally Posted by JameO

Turned it on to play SOCOM 4 and to my surprise, they still have connections to the update server, so I was forced into a huge update as my console had been off for about 6 months. I ain't anxious for it to be back either, I can wait to play SOCOM online.

About the Xbox Live bit, I have had friends that had flaky issues with wireless as well, but from my view it looked like a router issue. I would rather run cable with repeaters everywhere than to go wireless. A major turning point for me is the large download times for updates that seem to be every week or so. Any xbox live update I received took a few seconds and I was back into my game again. It is almost like they are adding a service pack to the ps3 every week, insane! Anyways, this said I will still be playing games like SOCOM online with friends, but xbox live will always be the better online experience. Sure it has a price tag, but well worth it in my opinion. Now one thing I would like is dedicated servers, heck I would even pay extra monthly for each game if they had dedicated servers. Some games setup just doesn't seem to pick the right host (Black Ops) and leads to host changes and games being dropped.

Edit: So apparently the second day that they were in the blind, "computers rebooted at random times when they were not scheduled to", well that might be a key indication of it being compromised. And then there is people all over the web saying don't blame Sony, no network is safe. Yes this is true, but also if they did the updates like they were instructed to and also if they had installed things like firewalls or honeypots then they could have known a lot quicker of the break in and not leave your entire infrastructure open for 3 full days. There is no network unbreakable, but there is also no excuse for choosing to opt out of very neccessary pieces of equipment.

Edit 2: Apparently I am a n00b, sorry for the double post. Not enough sleep leads to dumb moves like this.

[Peanut]

Originally Posted by JameO

Turned it on to play SOCOM 4 and to my surprise, they still have connections to the update server, so I was forced into a huge update as my console had been off for about 6 months. I ain't anxious for it to be back either, I can wait to play SOCOM online.

The latest firmware update available at the time of press is always on the disc.

So, I guess now Sony is saying there may not be anything up until the 31st of the month. Less "fiasco" and more "crisis" at this point.

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This is gay! I'm outta here! ....IT'S LOOOOOCKED! *passes through a door*

I wish I was gay.

[That Matt Guy]

Originally Posted by Peanut

So, I guess now Sony is saying there may not be anything up until the 31st of the month. Less "fiasco" and more "crisis" at this point.

When May 31st gets here they'll probably announce that they need another week.

[JameO]

Originally Posted by Peanut

The latest firmware update available at the time of press is always on the disc.

So, I guess now Sony is saying there may not be anything up until the 31st of the month. Less "fiasco" and more "crisis" at this point.

That is true, but was strange because I clicked the PSN network login and it said successful login, then did the update. But it would still download the update? Is the whole update on the disc, or is it a pointer to the server to download it? Either way, the 31st until everything is up? By then I might have SOCOM returned seeing it collect dust while I wait to play online.

[Peanut]

It comes on the disc. You wouldn't even be able to play the game if you couldn't update your firmware and not everyone has their PS3 online, so they can't just screw over the majority of PS3 owners by having the only means to an update be online. I also wouldn't give too much notice to most of the things the PS3 says right now. Mine keeps telling me that Uncharted 2 just came out.

But who knows, they may have an update server chugging away somewhere, although I would be surprised.

Hopefully Sony decides to bring their European incentive over to the NA. Apparently they'll be giving PS3 owners the choice of 2 games out of a possible 5 and and PSP owners the choice of 2 games out of a possible 4. That's a pretty generous offer, depending of course one what choices are actually available. Free games is free games, though. I think straight up giving away free games is not only one of the only ways they're going to satisfy a lot of people, but it pretty much guarantees that everyone will be trying those games out on their PS3 as soon as possible, which works well in their favour.

[ThirdMarioBro]

But either way, their reputation and the benefits of a free service are permanently borked after this. I don't expect their brand image to recover quickly.

Tis' a shame, because PSN has never given me one ounce of trouble. Sure, XBL's updates are smooth as silk in comparison to Sony's 20 minute installs (which are inexcusable), but functionality wise, I've never had a problem. I hope they recover from this.

[JameO]

Could very well have been on the disc, was just strange that it said sign in successful and I hadn't loaded a game but I haven't used it in a while so could be just the way it is. Then loaded the game and had another update but that was off the disc for sure was downloaded instantly. Either way 2 free games would be nice for sure. Hopefully they have worthy options, but free is free like you said. I will still be using their service for any shooters I can't play online for xbox, and like tmb said for what I used it for the online service was good. Nothing amazing but from friends that have ps3 and black ops they were having better luck server wise but that aint xbox live fault. I am hoping they can bounce back but it will for sure be a hard task to complete.