Is anyone else getting the vibe?

[The Stryker]

There are still a bunch of family shows on disney but the money makers are the tweenish shows.

It's been like this for a long time and there's nothing wrong with it at all. The Jersey and Famous Jett Jackson weren't high art either.

The shows aren't marketed towards your group. That doesn't mean they're doing something wrong.

[sdp]

I've actually made a thread about how fads haven't been as big and a thread about how the new show is going to be huge.

I think its hard to know just how big something is if you aren't a kid since you don't even realize how big some stuff is, Hannah Montana definitely seemed pretty fad like even if it was for girls. Transformers while not being new has definitely been pretty damn popular.

Now for the new show, like I've mentioned before the new show is going to be huge, fairly close if not as big as the original TMNT fad. Nick is the #1 kids network, no matter what show they air its going to get great ratings and lots of kids watching it. Just look at Power Rangers, the series had been in decline in ratings for years and is now as popular as its ever been since the fad died. And this is also considered one of the worst seasons of PRs so even if the quality isn't amazing it will get viewers, counting TMNT is Viacoms own property unlike PRs they will market it even more than they did PRs.

Originally Posted by Stryker

There are still a bunch of family shows on disney but the money makers are the tweenish shows.

It's been like this for a long time and there's nothing wrong with it at all. The Jersey and Famous Jett Jackson weren't high art either.

The shows aren't marketed towards your group. That doesn't mean they're doing something wrong.

That was the trend for the past few years in Nick/Disney and even CN but all three networks seem to have decided to also want some of the action of boys, Disney bought Marvel, Nick got PRs and TMNT, CN got DC shows and Thundercats among many other examples, we're seeing a ton of action shows being made for all three networks.

[Bauer536]

Originally Posted by Stryker

Get their act together? By doing what? They're raking in assloads of cash.

Stryker, I'm not thinking about the money they're making. I'm thinking about the plotlines of these shows. So far their shows, with the exception of Phineas and Ferb, stink. Come on! Shake It Up? I can't believe how bad that is. Seriously. I only liked That's So Raven when it used to be on. I know money is important, but I usually like to think about the quality of the product. Disney would do anything to put out a show, whether it's good or bad. At this point, their TV shows are bad, and they're still getting money for it.

So that's why I think Disney Channel needs to get their act together, because their shows are worse than Nickelodeon's. You may not have to agree with me. That's just the way I feel. So I'm not being dumb. I'm just not thinking in terms of money. That's all.

Also, you're right. I'm older now. Disney Channel's not intended for me anyway. I still pay attention to the theatrical Disney or Pixar films, though. In fact, I still like Disney World.

[The Stryker]

Oy. They're not good shows to you because you're not the audience for it. You ask any kid and they'll tell you that So Random is the funniest sh*t they've ever seen.

They're kids shows. Kids love them and spend money on things associated with the show. Mission accomplished. Fad shows from the past were just as bad or worse. It's all the same sh*t.

The shows didn't get worse. You got older.

[Xav]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Anyone notice that there have never been any big action cartoon fads after the likes of TMNT, Power Rangers and then Pokemon and Dragonball Z?

Other shows have gotten popular, but we've never seen anything to the extreme of those 4 shows when they were at the height of their popularities.

And all of them are still around minus TMNT which is returning soon. Oh and Power Rangers isn't a cartoon.

[Bauer536]

Originally Posted by Stryker

Oy. They're not good shows to you because you're not the audience for it. You ask any kid and they'll tell you that So Random is the funniest sh*t they've ever seen.

They're kids shows. Kids love them and spend money on things associated with the show. Mission accomplished. Fad shows from the past were just as bad or worse. It's all the same sh*t.

The shows didn't get worse. You got older.

I don't appreciate this condescension. I get it, thank you. I've added on my previous post that's these shows are not for my age anyway. Besides, I happen to have a little brother who likes these shows. And let me tell you; you don't know how much he has told me about this crap every time he watches it. Do you know how tired I get when he sings "Socks and Sandals?" I think we should let this go before things get ugly.

Maybe we should talk about a topic where we'd love to see the turtles beat the pulp out of the Supah Ninjas.

[Koi]

Hey
Hey
Hey guys
Hey
Hey guys
Wait a second
Guys
What if
Hey guys
What if we took the turtles and put them on adult swim. Adult swim has great adult cartoons these days and is the only thing that caters to us adults. Whachya think? Problem solved! We could have good bloody ass beating fun this way for us older folk who think ninja turtles are totally badass. Oh, and they could swear. OMG, I am so smart.

Hey guys....
I am getting that vibe.

[ToTheNines]

Your lack of wittiness disturbs me.

[Spitfire]

Adult Swim is for pot heads. Stoner Swim doesn't roll off the tongue as nicely.

[Jester]

Yeah, I fear most "adults" have outgrown Adult Swim.

[John Pannozzi]

Plus the Turtles are part of the MTV/Viacom family, whereas Adult Swim is belongs to TimeWarner.

But what if MTV2 or Spike TV considering a harder-edged Mirage-inspires TMNT series?????

[Jester]

I could get behind that. heck, I wish they'd do a one off animated movie that is solely an adaptation of TMNT 1. Black in white...save red bandanas and maybe blood. Very "Miller-esque."

[Bauer536]

Originally Posted by Orangey

Hey
Hey
Hey guys
Hey
Hey guys
Wait a second
Guys
What if
Hey guys
What if we took the turtles and put them on adult swim. Adult swim has great adult cartoons these days and is the only thing that caters to us adults. Whachya think? Problem solved! We could have good bloody ass beating fun this way for us older folk who think ninja turtles are totally badass. Oh, and they could swear. OMG, I am so smart.

Hey guys....
I am getting that vibe.

No way. Like I said. We can have blood. But do we really need that much? I don't. No rated M or R TMNT show or movie. I prefer PG-13. Adult Swim is sick and disgusting. TMNT doesn't belong there.

Originally Posted by John Pannozzi

Plus the Turtles are part of the MTV/Viacom family, whereas Adult Swim is belongs to TimeWarner.

But what if MTV2 or Spike TV considering a harder-edged Mirage-inspires TMNT series?????

Spike TV could work since they play a lot of CSI and Star Trek: The Next Generation. But MTV2? No way. After what MTV has become today with that Jersey Shore and Teen Mom crap, no way are these four dudes getting a show on any channel that's meant to play music videos. I know you're talking about MTV2, but it's like VH1 Classic, but not the official VH1. It's still part of MTV. So Spike could work. But I wish the show would be a one hour series played on Nick at Nite. That would be cool. Nick's first superhero action/comedy/drama series. Something like Smallville, except not on the CW.

Hopefully, that could be done in the future. Who knows.

[Powder]

Originally Posted by Bauer536

No way. Like I said. We can have blood. But do we really need that much? I don't. No rated M or R TMNT show or movie. I prefer PG-13. Adult Swim is sick and disgusting. TMNT doesn't belong there.

Her joke

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Your head

[Jester]

Originally Posted by Powder

Her joke

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Your head

I don't get...OH!!!

Kidding.

[Bauer536]

Originally Posted by Powder

Her joke

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Your head

Dude. This is the internet. I can't tell if anyone is joking around here with sarcasm. And what's this "Your head" thing? I'm not dumb, okay. I had a second thought that this was sarcasm, but I couldn't tell. Cut me some slack.

[Master Splinter]

Originally Posted by Bauer536

Adult Swim is sick and disgusting.

Originally Posted by Bauer536

"Spike TV could work...."

This made me lol... I'm sorry but Spike TV is just as bad as Adult Swim if not worse. I enjoy both Adult Swim and Spike TV but your argument is weak. Have you seen 1000 Ways to Die? UFC? July 19th is the Hooters Swimsuit Pageant... These are things that are shown during primetime hours. Adult Swim doesn't even start until late at night...

-ms

[Revan]

Originally Posted by Bauer536

And what's this "Your head" thing? I'm not dumb, okay.

It translates literally into:
Her joke went over your head...

[Donnie]

You know who you are; how about leaving Bauer alone? It seems you waste more time picking on him than contributing anything to the conversation(s) at hand.

To the topic, I think Nick is a great outlet for the TMNT and can't wait for the first product...

[Powder]

Originally Posted by Neutrino

It translates literally into:
Her joke went over your head...