The Dark Knight Rises

[shuriken]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

I'm kinda worried that I'm going to have the exact same problem with Bane that I had with Joker in TDK, which was the fact that he was damn near invincible. I still hate how the Joker strolls through that movie as easily as he did. Obviously that kind of thing is more believable with a guy like Bane, but he can't be bulletproof.

Joker kept getting his ass kicked and almost always had an some sort of protection with him. SO yeah...
Besides Bane doesn't need to be bullet proof. Batman doesn't use bullets. Or guns for that matter. Bane's just a super intelligent man beast out to break people's backs and take over Gotham.

[Iroh]

Originally Posted by shuriken

Joker kept getting his ass kicked and almost always had an some sort of protection with him. SO yeah...
Besides Bane doesn't need to be bullet proof. Batman doesn't use bullets. Or guns for that matter. Bane's just a super intelligent man beast out to break people's backs and take over Gotham.

I believe Batman is going to use his batarang to disconnect those hoses on Bane's head to stun him. Then, he will wrap the grappling hook around Bane's neck to choke him out.

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by XERO

Dude, it's the Joker. He hardly dies anyway.

Originally Posted by shuriken

Joker kept getting his ass kicked and almost always had an some sort of protection with him. SO yeah...
Besides Bane doesn't need to be bullet proof. Batman doesn't use bullets. Or guns for that matter.

I'm not even really talking about Batman here, and I'm not saying someone should have killed the Joker. It's just that he seemed like he could do anything. Only one of the Mob bosses tries anything against him out of all of them. And I know Gotham's corrupt and all but it doesn't seem likely that he could rig the Major Crimes Unit and the hospital with that many explosives....

And then after the police station gets blown up, he just walks right out with Lao and steals a bunch of cop cars. You mean to tell me that the explosion incapacitated every single officer in the precinct?

But hopefully Bane is rolling deep with the whole League of Shadows. A band of ninjas is a more believable threat than a bunch of ragtag thugs and their clown ring-leader.

[Godzilla]

Teaser has been officially released now.

[Leo656]

Can't wait for it, but it saddens me that no matter how good it is, it's a lame-duck movie because everyone already knows they're rebooting it in a couple years.

Hopefully the next series picks up a few years into the Batman saga, rather than the usual "it's new cast/director/tone so let's re-do the origin again". I doubt they could do much better than Begins, so it'd be nice to see them try some Batman stories that haven't been on film yet. I vote for Robin, finally (I don't count Forever or Batman & Robin, they totally didn't even try to do it properly). If they can make Robin awesome in the comics (and they have), they could easily do a Trilogy of films where he joins Batman, matures as Robin in the second one, and finally becomes Nightwing in the third one. And since they love starting new Franchises so much, they could easily spin Nightwing off into his own movie at that point and not have to reboot Batman yet again. It'd be easy as hell, they're just too lazy to try. I'm sick of "Batman the crazy dark loner" in movies; yeah it's a vital part of the mythos, but look it up: 99% of Batman's career he was anything but a loner.

But back on the topic of the new flick, I can't wait to see how they finish up. I've been wanting to see a decent take on Bane for almost 20 years. I'm sad they're ending the series because I would have loved to see their take on guys like Riddler, Penguin, etc., but at least it looks like they're going out on the highest of notes, rather than limp to the end like Schumacher's abortions did.

[ToTheNines]

Yeah, I say it's definitely time for Robin. I know most people are gonna sh*t on the idea, but it could be done well. The last movie series started Dick too old and comics started him too young. If they make him a 13-14 year old kid (who would have to be cast very carefully) when Bruce adopts him, that'd make a lot more sense. Plus that'd make him just about old enough to become Nightwing by the time the sequel rolls around, and I know the audience would be more open to that idea.

And of course, put him in the Red Robin costume.

Originally Posted by Leo656

I would have loved to see their take on guys like Riddler, Penguin, etc., but at least it looks like they're going out on the highest of notes, rather than limp to the end like Schumacher's abortions did.

Riddler... Idk. Penguin definitely.

I also would have liked to this Bat-verses version of Poison Ivy (sexy red-headed eco-terrorist), Black Mask (as a cult leader rather than straight up crime boss) and even Mr. Freeze or the Ventriloquist (as side villains, not the big baddies)

[Leo656]

Ehh, I'm more a fan of the original Tim Drake outfit from 1991-ish onward. Perfect blend of classic and modern. That was the one thing about Forever that I didn't hate, was the Robin suit, they kept it as close to the books as they could for a change. They just screwed up by putting in someone who was way too old, as you said, and confusing Grayson's personality with Jason Todd's, probably to condense all three Robins into one (Grayson's origin, Todd's personality, and Drake's suit).

And I'm sure they could have done an awesome Riddler in the Nolan-verse. They could have played it as the one guy who could out-smart Batman rather than the customary "goofy" version everyone remembers. Riddler's had his moments, it just takes a good writer to find them. No bad characters, just lazy writers, that's basic Creative Writing philosophy.

I agree, though, Black Mask could'a been cool also. And even though circumstances necessitated it, I'm never happy that The Joker only ever gets one story per movie series even though he's the only Batman villain that comic readers seem to care about, Two-Face being a close second and he gets the same treatment. Ah well.

[ToTheNines]

As far strictly Robin costumes go? Yeah, Tim Drake's is the best. It's just that I, and a LOT of people, don't like the bullsh*t idea that a Domino mask is sufficient identity protection. And there should be as little yellow as possible in the outfit too. I really like Dick's suit in Young Justice right now, except for the effing yellow cape.

As far as Riddler goes, I do like him and wouldn't mind seeing him in a reboot, but I just feel like his name alone is too goofy for a Nolan Bat-movie. Even his real name is stupid lol.

Agreed whole-heartedly on Joker but not on Two-Face. I loved how he was handled in TDK and hated him enough in Forever to not care about seeing him anymore in that series.

[TheCanadiandrome]

Originally Posted by Godzilla

Teaser has been officially released now.

lookin good