Thoughts on the European Vacation episodes

*CyberCubed* · 10-13-2011, 03:32 PM

I've recently been watching through the DVDs again and I've been going through these episodes specifically. What are your thoughts on this 13-ep arc?

Its a shame that Raph has an alternate voice in all these episodes, but otherwise this season is strictly average fair. The episodes are about the same as most Season 4 episodes of that era, some of course being worse than others.

I totally forgot that we see Atlantis in this season, which is amusing because in Season 7 we see Atlantis again with Merdude. In this season some cult was trying to make Atlantis rise with April being the queen...I guess they were a sect of the Atlanteans we see in Season 7.

What I like best is Michaelangelo twirls his nunchucks around in almost every episode! It actually amuses me how much we see his chucks in this season....

rufus · 10-13-2011, 03:42 PM

Thought they were decent at best. Would have loved it better had raph had his original voice and shredder and company to not have been in them at all. By the way were these episodes taken from VHS Tapes? They look rough.

~~ABrown~~ · 10-13-2011, 05:00 PM

I actually just completed those episodes not too long ago myself. I found them almost unbearable. I think they were among the show's worst episodes. I can't really blame the voices as my reason for not liking them. In season eight, Shredder had a different voice. Also in season ten, Raphael had a different voice. And those are two of my favorite seasons. I just found the episodes to be very boring. They felt almost forced, like everyone involved didn't even want to do the episodes.

*CyberCubed* · 10-13-2011, 05:38 PM

Some of the eps were pretty dull, but some did stand out as being pretty fun.

It is the weakest overall "season" of the series though. As I said, its similar to some of the worst eps of Season 4, which is where these eps fit in anyway.

*gobo* · 10-13-2011, 05:49 PM

Shell no. The weakest was syndication Season 4. If you wanted to say "2nd weakest, I'd buy that. There were only one or two eps that were really terrible.

I always found it hilarious that Mike uses his 'chucks in most of these eps, when it was Europe that got 'em banned in the first place.

**Jester** · 10-13-2011, 05:56 PM

No Rob Paulsen, and thus crap.

Kidding, I actually liked them more than I expected too. I didn't remember them and mainly heard how bad they were here, so I was primed to hate them. Ain't that just how it works, you are primed to loathe something, only to watch it and find it ain't as bad as everyone says.

*pannoni1* · 10-13-2011, 06:15 PM

I also find way too many April captures, plus they're animated in Europe instead of Asia, causing some animation to be off. But there are still some good episodes that I enjoy. I don't understand why so many people hate the episode "Artless", when there are some clever references about who the TMNT were named after; plus it's cool seeing the adventures take place outside of NYC. I'd like to see perhaps a Florida/California mini-vacation in the new series for instance. Despite some scientific quirks, the Orient Express episode is a fast-paced episode wit several crucial moments. Only the last two/three episodes I really find as filler rewatching this a couple times.

*gobo* · 10-13-2011, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by pannoni1

they're animated in France

There's a Dublin in France? O_o

Stingray69 · 10-13-2011, 07:31 PM

I liked the episodes just wish they would of used differnt villains. Not shredder and krang it would of bieng cool if shredder and krang stayed back in NYC and caused some terror for the turtles to come back to.

*CyberCubed* · 10-13-2011, 08:13 PM

I always wondered why Shredder started attacking the world in Europe just when the Turtles started traveling there.

*Redeemer* · 10-13-2011, 08:25 PM

I dont remember these eps really, but wasn't the third tmnt game "Manhatten project" based off these eps...???

LeoNerdo · 10-13-2011, 08:40 PM

The European 'season' on the whole is rather forgettable. I had never seen any of them prior to the dvd releases. There are a few episodes I enjoyed, but I thought the majority of them were bland.

*CyberCubed* · 10-13-2011, 09:29 PM

LOL, the "Ring of fire" ep has an alternate voice for Raphael, Donatello, Shredder AND Bebop.

4 alternate voices in the same episode. I don't think there was ever another episode where 4 of the main characters had alternate voices.

**Jester** · 10-13-2011, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

LOL, the "Ring of fire" ep has an alternate voice for Raphael, Donatello, Shredder AND Bebop.

4 alternate voices in the same episode. I don't think there was ever another episode where 4 of the main characters had alternate voices.

As a fan of voice over acting, this is probably my least favorite episode....

*Powder* · 10-13-2011, 09:39 PM

I don't think any of 'em are all that great, but as far as being OK goes, they're half & half.

*CyberCubed* · 10-13-2011, 09:39 PM

To be honest I don't mind the alternate Shredder in a lot of these episodes and the Season 7 eps.

He's not as good as James Avery, but he still pulls off the Shredder voice fairly well. Even the humor when he's arguing with Krang.

**Jester** · 10-13-2011, 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

To be honest I don't mind the alternate Shredder in a lot of these episodes and the Season 7 eps.

He's not as good as James Avery, but he still pulls off the Shredder voice fairly well. Even the humor when he's arguing with Krang.

Yeah, I still dislike the alternate Donnie. And because of one line:
"Those chemicals are mixing together to make mute-uh-gin!"

*gobo* · 10-13-2011, 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redeemer

wasn't the third tmnt game "Manhatten project" based off these eps...???

No. What gave you that idea?

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 10-14-2011, 01:00 PM

They should also visit modern Japan.

*CyberCubed* · 10-15-2011, 11:39 AM

One of the best parts of this season is when they use the rust weapon to turn metal into rusted material, and they shoot it at Shredder.

He stands there frozen with his armor all red yelling, "Oil! I need oil!"

Hilarious.

10-13-2011, 03:32 PM	#1
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,880	Thoughts on the European Vacation episodes I've recently been watching through the DVDs again and I've been going through these episodes specifically. What are your thoughts on this 13-ep arc? Its a shame that Raph has an alternate voice in all these episodes, but otherwise this season is strictly average fair. The episodes are about the same as most Season 4 episodes of that era, some of course being worse than others. I totally forgot that we see Atlantis in this season, which is amusing because in Season 7 we see Atlantis again with Merdude. In this season some cult was trying to make Atlantis rise with April being the queen...I guess they were a sect of the Atlanteans we see in Season 7. What I like best is Michaelangelo twirls his nunchucks around in almost every episode! It actually amuses me how much we see his chucks in this season....

10-13-2011, 03:42 PM	#2
rufus Stone Warrior Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Lawrenceville,Georgia Posts: 780	Thought they were decent at best. Would have loved it better had raph had his original voice and shredder and company to not have been in them at all. By the way were these episodes taken from VHS Tapes? They look rough. __________________ http://www.youtube.com/user/edgartooms ^TMNT Stopmotions.

10-13-2011, 05:49 PM	#5
gobo Wacky Action Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: on Earth Posts: 12,784	Shell no. The weakest was syndication Season 4. If you wanted to say "2nd weakest, I'd buy that. There were only one or two eps that were really terrible. I always found it hilarious that Mike uses his 'chucks in most of these eps, when it was Europe that got 'em banned in the first place. __________________ Live and let live... or go to hell.

10-13-2011, 05:56 PM	#6
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,301	No Rob Paulsen, and thus crap. Kidding, I actually liked them more than I expected too. I didn't remember them and mainly heard how bad they were here, so I was primed to hate them. Ain't that just how it works, you are primed to loathe something, only to watch it and find it ain't as bad as everyone says. __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

10-13-2011, 06:15 PM	#7
pannoni1 Foot Elite Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: USA Posts: 3,447	I also find way too many April captures, plus they're animated in Europe instead of Asia, causing some animation to be off. But there are still some good episodes that I enjoy. I don't understand why so many people hate the episode "Artless", when there are some clever references about who the TMNT were named after; plus it's cool seeing the adventures take place outside of NYC. I'd like to see perhaps a Florida/California mini-vacation in the new series for instance. Despite some scientific quirks, the Orient Express episode is a fast-paced episode wit several crucial moments. Only the last two/three episodes I really find as filler rewatching this a couple times. __________________ http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/sho...d.php?t=37065- MY WANT LIST TMNT FAN CLUB LINK: http://sot.ag/gCjK/ 30 years of Turtle Power! Last edited by pannoni1; 10-13-2011 at 07:17 PM.

10-13-2011, 05:00 PM	#3
~~ABrown~~ Banned Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 1,831	I actually just completed those episodes not too long ago myself. I found them almost unbearable. I think they were among the show's worst episodes. I can't really blame the voices as my reason for not liking them. In season eight, Shredder had a different voice. Also in season ten, Raphael had a different voice. And those are two of my favorite seasons. I just found the episodes to be very boring. They felt almost forced, like everyone involved didn't even want to do the episodes.

10-13-2011, 05:38 PM	#4
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,880	Some of the eps were pretty dull, but some did stand out as being pretty fun. It is the weakest overall "season" of the series though. As I said, its similar to some of the worst eps of Season 4, which is where these eps fit in anyway.

10-13-2011, 07:31 PM	#9
Stingray69 Stone Warrior Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 916	I liked the episodes just wish they would of used differnt villains. Not shredder and krang it would of bieng cool if shredder and krang stayed back in NYC and caused some terror for the turtles to come back to.

10-13-2011, 08:13 PM	#10
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,880	I always wondered why Shredder started attacking the world in Europe just when the Turtles started traveling there.

10-13-2011, 08:25 PM	#11
Redeemer Technodrome Technician Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: third earth Posts: 4,737	I dont remember these eps really, but wasn't the third tmnt game "Manhatten project" based off these eps...??? __________________ GT:Reedeamer *THE TECHNODROME REDESIGN 2015* http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=51594

10-13-2011, 08:40 PM	#12
LeoNerdo Stone Warrior Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 872	The European 'season' on the whole is rather forgettable. I had never seen any of them prior to the dvd releases. There are a few episodes I enjoyed, but I thought the majority of them were bland.

10-13-2011, 09:29 PM	#13
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,880	LOL, the "Ring of fire" ep has an alternate voice for Raphael, Donatello, Shredder AND Bebop. 4 alternate voices in the same episode. I don't think there was ever another episode where 4 of the main characters had alternate voices.

10-13-2011, 09:39 PM	#15
Powder 40 Years of TMNT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell-Ri-La Posts: 26,956	I don't think any of 'em are all that great, but as far as being OK goes, they're half & half.

10-14-2011, 01:00 PM	#19
Original TMNT Cartoon Fan Overlord Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Sweden Posts: 10,481	Japan They should also visit modern Japan.

10-15-2011, 11:39 AM	#20
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,880	One of the best parts of this season is when they use the rust weapon to turn metal into rusted material, and they shoot it at Shredder. He stands there frozen with his armor all red yelling, "Oil! I need oil!" Hilarious.

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