TMNT #4 Preview and Discussion... - Page 5

*Slap-Happy* · 12-01-2011, 01:51 AM

If the origin goes the way I think it does...

Spoiler:

Then I'm pretty fine with that.

Matches Malone · 12-01-2011, 02:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Powder

I was thinking along those same lines...

Seems a little too wacky of an idea to have the turtles go from normal to mutant back to normal and back to mutant yet again. The turtles mutation is certainly a lot less extraordinary when they keep switching back and forth like a light switch... Which is why I'm not too crazy about too many "extra" mutants if there isn't a reasonable explanation for it...

*ToTheNines* · 12-01-2011, 06:52 AM

I also loved the moment where Raph was about to kill Hob, then Leo stepped in and stopped him as per Splinter (not that I liked him not wanting to kill, just that he obeys Splinter to a T), then Donatello, being the turtle of logic points out that Hob is just going to keep attacking them and should be put down.

*Andrew NDB* · 12-01-2011, 10:35 AM

All of the possibilities I'm hearing, whether it's from human to baby turtle to mutant turtle or soul transfer from human to baby turtle to mutant turtle... all of these sound like they're running the risk of adding an unnecessary layer of convolution to the origin. I'm not saying it can't be done, but it would take some real doing to balance the scales right.

I mean, in a year if someone were to ask, "Hey, what's the origin of the IDW TMNT?" the answer would have to be something like, "They began as human boys and then their souls were transferred into baby turtles and then those baby turtles were caught and used for top secret experiments and then ninjas tried to kidnap them and they were exposed to a mutagen that grew them into full-sized humanoids" -- it seems like a lot of "and thens."

*CyberCubed* · 12-01-2011, 11:18 AM

Where does the idea of Turtles have anything to do with humans come from? That issue #5 cover?

*ToTheNines* · 12-01-2011, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Where does the idea of Turtles have anything to do with humans come from? That issue #5 cover?

Have you read this issue?

TomWaltz · 12-01-2011, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

The last panel was very touching. Can't wait for next months book.

Yep, ToTheNines, that last panel really is nice, isn't it? When Dan sent in the final art for that page, both Bobby and I were gushing over it in the IDW offices.

Thanks for your support!

Tom W.

TomWaltz · 12-01-2011, 01:56 PM

Okay, folks, my uber-editor, Mr. Bobby Curnow, is telling me to get my butt back to writing, so I may be quiet for a bit. Just wanted to thank you all again for your continued support, excitement, and well-written and honest criticism of our IDW TMNT comic book. Really appreciated and look forward to talking to you all about issue #5 at the end of the month.

Before I go, though, want to leave you with a sneak peek at issue #5 artwork. All I can safely show, my friends -- every page chock full o' spoilers!

Take care and have a great holiday season!

Tom W.

*Master Splinter* · 12-01-2011, 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TomWaltz

Okay, folks, my uber-editor, Mr. Bobby Curnow, is telling me to get my butt back to writing, so I may be quiet for a bit. Just wanted to thank you all again for your continued support, excitement, and well-written and honest criticism of our IDW TMNT comic book. Really appreciated and look forward to talking to you all about issue #5 at the end of the month.

Before I go, though, want to leave you with a sneak peek at issue #5 artwork. All I can safely show, my friends -- every page chock full o' spoilers!

Take care and have a great holiday season!

Tom W.

It all makes sense now! I love breaking necks!

-ms

*Andrew NDB* · 12-01-2011, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Master Splinter

It all makes sense now! I love breaking necks!

Hm. It's that or a sleeper hold, and so far Splinter's been kind of a pacifist about killing...

*Master Splinter* · 12-01-2011, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Hm. It's that or a sleeper hold, and so far Splinter's been kind of a pacifist about killing...

Why must you ruin my dark and twisted fantasy!

-ms

*CyberCubed* · 12-01-2011, 02:26 PM

My guess is Splinter is taking out thugs and stealing their clothes for the Turtles. They need their trenchcoat disguises.

~~AquaParade~~ · 12-01-2011, 02:28 PM

Anyone else read Alan Moore's run on Swamp thing?

If they are going to throw the human aspect in there, I think it would be best if it was similar to Alan's run on swamp thing.

Basically what you have is the Swamp thing discovers that he is not Alex Holland, turned into a swamp creature, but instead a swamp creature that thinks he was once Alex Holland. The discovery that he never was human, but just retains the memories of a dead human was totally brilliant.

marcelangelo · 12-01-2011, 03:39 PM

I wanted to say it's great to read about all your thaughts on the current issues eery month..I only get them about three weeks after your posts...so I cannot really comment much and when I can you're all looking forward to the next issue already

...but it entertains me to read this and tom's answers and sneak peaks(even the funny ones)..I don't mind spoilers that much...It feels new and thrilling no matter what I have already heard about...

Matches Malone · 12-01-2011, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Hm. It's that or a sleeper hold, and so far Splinter's been kind of a pacifist about killing...

I remember after issue #1 came out that Tom made it a point to tell us that Splinter instructed the turtles not to kill for "tactical reasons" as opposed to "pacifistic reasons," implying that perhaps he's not a pacifist after all. We'll find out in a due time, I suppose

*oldmanwinters* · 12-01-2011, 04:11 PM

I would have expected an onomatopoeia SFX if that was indeed a neck snap. But perhaps the text will be added in later?

*ToTheNines* · 12-01-2011, 04:17 PM

Nice lookin page, it's nice to see Splinter kick some ass.

I really like the winter breath affect, too.

Matches Malone · 12-02-2011, 12:52 AM

Does anyone else think that maybe the "past lives" remark isn't about reincarnation at all but that Splinter and the turtles simply had a life together, perhaps as pets, maybe even Hamato's pets, prior to being brought to StockGen? That certainly sounds more straightforward and plausible. Memories were woozy simply because they had recently undergone mutation? I dunno... Thoughts?

*CyberCubed* · 12-02-2011, 12:59 AM

I figure something like that is possible, which is why Splinter was so protective of the turtles pre-mutation.

The fact that the only way the Foot history will make sense is if Splinter is somehow connected to Hamato Yoshi in some way. Perhaps he was Yoshi's pet in the past before somehow being brought to StockGen?

*Andrew NDB* · 12-02-2011, 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I figure something like that is possible, which is why Splinter was so protective of the turtles pre-mutation.

The fact that the only way the Foot history will make sense is if Splinter is somehow connected to Hamato Yoshi in some way. Perhaps he was Yoshi's pet in the past before somehow being brought to StockGen?

Some kind of spiritual reincarnation would probably be the most sensible route, I think.

12-01-2011, 01:51 AM	#81
Slap-Happy Bad Boy Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,911	If the origin goes the way I think it does... Spoiler: Splinter somehow spiritually transferring his son's souls into the turtles (I'm not sure why) Then I'm pretty fine with that.

12-01-2011, 10:35 AM	#84
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 34,594	All of the possibilities I'm hearing, whether it's from human to baby turtle to mutant turtle or soul transfer from human to baby turtle to mutant turtle... all of these sound like they're running the risk of adding an unnecessary layer of convolution to the origin. I'm not saying it can't be done, but it would take some real doing to balance the scales right. I mean, in a year if someone were to ask, "Hey, what's the origin of the IDW TMNT?" the answer would have to be something like, "They began as human boys and then their souls were transferred into baby turtles and then those baby turtles were caught and used for top secret experiments and then ninjas tried to kidnap them and they were exposed to a mutagen that grew them into full-sized humanoids" -- it seems like a lot of "and thens." __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ] Last edited by Andrew NDB; 12-01-2011 at 10:54 AM.

12-01-2011, 01:56 PM	#88
TomWaltz Official TMNT Staff/Cast Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 510	Okay, folks, my uber-editor, Mr. Bobby Curnow, is telling me to get my butt back to writing, so I may be quiet for a bit. Just wanted to thank you all again for your continued support, excitement, and well-written and honest criticism of our IDW TMNT comic book. Really appreciated and look forward to talking to you all about issue #5 at the end of the month. Before I go, though, want to leave you with a sneak peek at issue #5 artwork. All I can safely show, my friends -- every page chock full o' spoilers! Take care and have a great holiday season! Tom W. Last edited by TomWaltz; 06-03-2021 at 07:24 PM.

12-01-2011, 03:39 PM	#94
marcelangelo Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 1,471	I wanted to say it's great to read about all your thaughts on the current issues eery month..I only get them about three weeks after your posts...so I cannot really comment much and when I can you're all looking forward to the next issue already...but it entertains me to read this and tom's answers and sneak peaks(even the funny ones)..I don't mind spoilers that much...It feels new and thrilling no matter what I have already heard about...

12-01-2011, 04:11 PM	#96
oldmanwinters Overlord Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Between yesterday and tomorrow! Posts: 15,511	I would have expected an onomatopoeia SFX if that was indeed a neck snap. But perhaps the text will be added in later? __________________ Experience the TMNT Fan Commentaries! Check out my TMNT fan comic, "Nothing to Fear"! View my sketch work! I'm selling some of my hard-to-find TMNT items!

12-01-2011, 06:52 AM	#83
ToTheNines Col. Stinkmeaner Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 19,398	I also loved the moment where Raph was about to kill Hob, then Leo stepped in and stopped him as per Splinter (not that I liked him not wanting to kill, just that he obeys Splinter to a T), then Donatello, being the turtle of logic points out that Hob is just going to keep attacking them and should be put down.

12-01-2011, 11:18 AM	#85
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,899	Where does the idea of Turtles have anything to do with humans come from? That issue #5 cover?

12-01-2011, 02:26 PM	#92
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,899	My guess is Splinter is taking out thugs and stealing their clothes for the Turtles. They need their trenchcoat disguises.

12-01-2011, 02:28 PM	#93
~~AquaParade~~ Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 8,450	Anyone else read Alan Moore's run on Swamp thing? If they are going to throw the human aspect in there, I think it would be best if it was similar to Alan's run on swamp thing. Basically what you have is the Swamp thing discovers that he is not Alex Holland, turned into a swamp creature, but instead a swamp creature that thinks he was once Alex Holland. The discovery that he never was human, but just retains the memories of a dead human was totally brilliant.

12-01-2011, 04:17 PM	#97
ToTheNines Col. Stinkmeaner Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 19,398	Nice lookin page, it's nice to see Splinter kick some ass. I really like the winter breath affect, too.

12-02-2011, 12:52 AM	#98
Matches Malone Stone Warrior Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: California Posts: 954	Does anyone else think that maybe the "past lives" remark isn't about reincarnation at all but that Splinter and the turtles simply had a life together, perhaps as pets, maybe even Hamato's pets, prior to being brought to StockGen? That certainly sounds more straightforward and plausible. Memories were woozy simply because they had recently undergone mutation? I dunno... Thoughts?

12-02-2011, 12:59 AM	#99
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,899	I figure something like that is possible, which is why Splinter was so protective of the turtles pre-mutation. The fact that the only way the Foot history will make sense is if Splinter is somehow connected to Hamato Yoshi in some way. Perhaps he was Yoshi's pet in the past before somehow being brought to StockGen?

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