Could the Turtles take down Batman?

[CyberCubed]

Wasn't there a Batman story where he basically goes back to the beginning of the universe or something and battles the hands of fate or something like that?

[Nintendophile]

There are times when Batman has "lost" a fight, and had to make a tactical retreat, to further investigate the situation, formulate a plan, then come back and win; this is probably what would happen the first time he goes up against the Turtles. It's four against one, and they're all somewhat equally trained in fighting skills. So, Batman makes a tactical retreat, and the Turtles "win" the first encounter.

But, it's reasonable to assume that Batman would do something very Batman-esque before escaping, i.e. planting a Bat-tracking-device on one of the Turtles shells, or acquiring a blood/DNA sample from one of them during battle. He could then either track them back to their lair, and gain great tactical advantage from knowing where they live; or he could use a sample of their blood to develop a retro-mutagen that could turn them back to ordinary turtles.

At any rate, I'd say it's believable that the Turtles could "win" in a first-fight encounter, but Batman would do all the things that Batman does to make sure that he'd ultimately win the war. That's how Batman would take down Superman; he DEFINITELY wouldn't beat Supes in a first-fight encounter, but he'd make a tactical retreat, gain intel, formulate a plan, then come back completely prepared to win.

[Powder]

Originally Posted by Powder

I cant believe this is actually a thread, haha.
It brings to mind this Mitcheroney art. The faint pencil text reads "Yes, it's true! Bigger than Batman!".

Spoiler:

I still can't believe this is actually a thread, let alone one so active. Usually these kinda things are just bias arguments...

[Dovahkiin]

Originally Posted by Kiwamu The Kappa

Doesn't matter, Batman got the Mary Sue factor

I just noticed that Batman is a mary sue, lol. Why didn't I think of this before.

--By average physique I mean the average fighter not civilian physique.

And it is possible for the turtles to survive gunshots becuase of their high-density bone structure. (For example, If someone were to shoot a bull in the head with a handgun the bull would be able to survive and thats just a normal animal.) The possibility for the turtles to survive common firearms is credible but powerful firearms would be a problem for them.

[Candy Kappa]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

That was in the 40's.. several reboots ago. Try again?

people are picking up 60's TV Batman, but sure why golden age batman ain't valid.

Surprisingly he didn't use his gun that often when he did the kills back in the 40's.

And first movie batman...

[Avatar Yuffie]

I'm with Batman.

Sorry, Turtles.

[Mighty Bebop]

Originally Posted by Nintendophile

There are times when Batman has "lost" a fight, and had to make a tactical retreat, to further investigate the situation, formulate a plan, then come back and win; this is probably what would happen the first time he goes up against the Turtles. It's four against one, and they're all somewhat equally trained in fighting skills. So, Batman makes a tactical retreat, and the Turtles "win" the first encounter.

But, it's reasonable to assume that Batman would do something very Batman-esque before escaping, i.e. planting a Bat-tracking-device on one of the Turtles shells, or acquiring a blood/DNA sample from one of them during battle. He could then either track them back to their lair, and gain great tactical advantage from knowing where they live; or he could use a sample of their blood to develop a retro-mutagen that could turn them back to ordinary turtles.

At any rate, I'd say it's believable that the Turtles could "win" in a first-fight encounter, but Batman would do all the things that Batman does to make sure that he'd ultimately win the war. That's how Batman would take down Superman; he DEFINITELY wouldn't beat Supes in a first-fight encounter, but he'd make a tactical retreat, gain intel, formulate a plan, then come back completely prepared to win.

As insane as this argument is, this is probably the most logical scenario.

[Redeemer]

Originally Posted by Powder

I still can't believe this is actually a thread, let alone one so active. Usually these kinda things are just bias arguments...

Really???? I dont understand why u cant believe it especially when we have cybercube

[Andrew NDB]

Batman killed AND used a gun in Final Crisis.

As he said, he made a "one in a lifetime exception" against Darkseid.

[Hermano Dyvas]

Originally Posted by Dovahkiin

Reading most of the posts; I have to ask are you guys even fans of TMNT or Batman?

I'm a bigger fan of Batman then Superman but if Superman wouldn't hold back Batman is dust. He'd be dead before he could even open his lead kryptonite box. It really doesn't matter who's biggest fan you are.

Originally Posted by Dovahkiin

Each turtle can match Batman's skills and maybe go beyond it because their not human.

...despite bats knowing plural arts including ninjitsu instead of just ninjitsu.
I don't even see how not being human gives the tmnt the advantage?

Originally Posted by Dovahkiin

The turtles have a high-density bone structure while Batman has a removable suit.

The turtles' shells are probably tougher I'll give you that. But just for the record I'll say you forgot one important detail, a reinforced suit.

Originally Posted by Dovahkiin

The turtles have mutated strength while Batman has gadgets and the average male physique of 210LBs.

Average male physique? This statement is pure bias, he's at te pinnacle of human physique, this is often clearly stated.

The turtles are mutants but I've never heard of mutated strength. I think you can compare their strength to the strength a human their size would be. They are in great shape obviously but besides Leo I don't think any of them are at the absolute top of their game.

Originally Posted by Dovahkiin

The only reason why most people say Batman is because he had the most character growth and better story to reveal great traits.

Well that and he has often beaten tougher odds then the turtles ever faced.


Nintendophile's argument is probably the most sensible. I'll go with that.

[Boy Wonder]

The answer is Werewolf Queen! It's always Werewolf Queen! (bonus points for anyone who gets the reference)

But for serious; the correct answer is Batman.

[Xav]

Originally Posted by Hermano Dyvas

You say he would need a plan to face the turtles also, while all they really have is ninja skills. Something which I'm sure Bats is always prepared for due to simple training.

Yes but you forgot about Turtle Power!

[Jester]

And according to "The Gang's All Here" when Michelangelo turns into a human he looses his awesome "Turtle powers" so there's that proof that the Turtles are more than human...


Oye...that hurts.

[Stingray69]

Yep I sure dint know batman ever killed.

And can any one tell me what a mary sue is?

[Jester]

Not Batman, that's for sure.

But here.

[AcidBurn30]

i think Donatello could win this one.. They think a like when it comes to machines and gadget they come up with .....hmm, it should be a tie.

[Samhain]

Originally Posted by AcidBurn30

i think Donatello could win this one.. They think a like when it comes to machines and gadget they come up with .....hmm, it should be a tie.

So, never mind all 4 turtles, you think Donny would beat Batman.... alone?

[Jester]

Of course. "Doing machines" trumps millions of dollars in crime fighting gear and years of honing his body into the perfect possible shape. It's simple logic...

[Samhain]

Originally Posted by Jester

Of course. "Doing machines" trumps millions of dollars in crime fighting gear and years of honing his body into the perfect possible shape. It's simple logic...

I was just gonna say. The way he worded it was as if Leo, Mike and Raph would almost be overkill. Don's like, ''I got this one guys''.

[Jester]

Any one Turtle could take out Batman alone. I mean he's only human.

@ the 3:30 mark
Or...you know...maybe not.