Turtle Turncoat

[Tony Day]

cartoonistaaron: Some of the nicest feedback I’ve ever got. Thank you.

Jester: The only cost producing a page is time. Anywhere from about 8 to 10 hours depending on detail. 10 for the last one. Wish I did get $500 for a page. I'd be laughing. Nope. The only remuneration I get is the satisfaction from drawing and the knowledge that theres a few people out there enjoying it.

Got some more script from Alan (with plenty of juicy plot points). So, more to come soon.

Nite nite

[Jester]

Wait...a fan comic can be produce for nothing but the cost of time? Weird...

[oldmanwinters]

Originally Posted by Jester

Hey Tony, how much does it cost ya to produce a page? Any thing under $500 is a shame.

Originally Posted by Tony Day

The only cost producing a page is time. Anywhere from about 8 to 10 hours depending on detail. 10 for the last one. Wish I did get $500 for a page. I'd be laughing. Nope. The only remuneration I get is the satisfaction from drawing and the knowledge that theres a few people out there enjoying it.

Originally Posted by Jester

Wait...a fan comic can be produce for nothing but the cost of time? Weird...

I'm not sure Tony has followed that "Dawn of the Ninja" fan project so he may not get the inside joke.

Anyhoo, I think Tony's work is totally superior to that other comic (outside of some bad dialogue and grammar in Part 1), especially considering the fact that he started it way back in 2001.

[Jester]

I agree. Tony's work is very impressive, and almost always on model. The Turtles in Dawn of the Ninja loose belts and arm bands more than FW Turtles. If anything, Tony's comic should have more goofs as an homage to the many mistakes in the source material.

[oldmanwinters]

Originally Posted by Jester

I agree. Tony's work is very impressive, and almost always on model. The Turtles in Dawn of the Ninja loose belts and arm bands more than FW Turtles. If anything, Tony's comic should have more goofs as an homage to the many mistakes in the source material.

I think when the comic got started, Tony said was using the original cartoon as a basis for the look and plot but using the personalities of the original live-action movie. Most of us TMNT fans weren't as versatile with the wealth of source material back at the turn of the millennium. Even fans of the original cartoon could probably only remember watching a few dozen episodes prior to the DVD releases of the series.

[Jester]

It's just a joke. I really don't expect, or even want that. I was just always taken out of Dawn of the Ninja by the wonky art, which is never a problem with Turncoat

[Tony Day]

Just clicked on that "Dawn of the Ninja" link and no I've never heard of it. Am I guessing right that someone is asking for donations for a fan comic? And rather large ones at that.

[Jester]

$15,000 a chapter. The 1st chapter is 30 pages....thus $500 a page.

[oldmanwinters]

Originally Posted by Tony Day

Just clicked on that "Dawn of the Ninja" link and no I've never heard of it. Am I guessing right that someone is asking for donations for a fan comic? And rather large ones at that.

Dawn of the Ninja is an ambitious fan project started by a couple of guys a few years back hoping that they could eventually earn the attention of a major movie studio to adapt their vision for the franchise to the big screen.

Though I've been complimentary to their efforts, the project has more-or-less been a mess since it got started. Eventually, they changed their focus to just making a graphic novel and commissioned a talented artist to draw up the pages. So far, most of the pages have ended up looking cool but the guys have already spent thousands of dollars on everything and are just about out of cash. They estimate it will take over $100,000 to actually complete the comic.

Like I said, the whole thing has turned into one big mess.

[Tony Day]

Just had a look at the website for Dawn of the Ninja. I remember it now. Proportions wise it’s got a bizarre and interesting style. It’s beautifully painted too. I can see alot of effort has gone into it.
But. I never see anything else than one off pics of characters or a few comic pages that have no dialogue on them. And it’s been like that for ages... Am I missing something? Are the 16 pages hidden away somewhere. Do you have to pay to see them?

P.s. Looks like I posted my comment seconds after yours Adam. Cheers for the info.

[Jester]

No they're free...
http://www.dawnoftheninja.com/Reader

[Tony Day]

Hi again guys.. page 52 is up

Laterz

www.trydowave.com

[Master Splinter]

Originally Posted by Tony Day

Hi again guys.. page 52 is up

Laterz

www.trydowave.com

You know it's a good day when Tony makes an update.

-ms

[oldmanwinters]

Ya know, I always wondered what Bebop's circle-ray gun actually did to people. Although now I'm still not sure!

Originally Posted by Master Splinter

You know it's a good day when Tony makes an update.

-ms

Agreed!

[Redeemer]

Just read through the recently added pages and I am really loving the story, I am interested in seeing how it ends

[Mona_Lisa]

Originally Posted by Master Splinter

You know it's a good day when Tony makes an update.

-ms

Just read Tony’s comic through for the first time…. And I have to say, I hope he is somewhere drawing right now so I can see how the story ends!!!! Awesome work man. I am a pretty normal person, but sometimes I have to have something tmnt related and that was perfect…. I loved how you used 80’s characters and cartoon style but made it more “grown up” or “dark”. Keep up the good work!!!!

[Tony Day]

Originally Posted by oldmanwinters

Ya know, I always wondered what Bebop's circle-ray gun actually did to people. Although now I'm still not sure!

It slightly annoys you by knocking you over

My 'made up on the spot' reason: Even though April's a pretty bad shot she'd hit somthing eventually spraying all those bullets everywhere. So, (apart from including it coz it's in the game) I wanted beebops weird sonic weapon to deflect all the bullets and them. Apart from that, I've got no idea what the things does

Originally Posted by Mona_Lisa

Just read Tony’s comic through for the first time…. And I have to say, I hope he is somewhere drawing right now so I can see how the story ends!!!! Awesome work man. I am a pretty normal person, but sometimes I have to have something tmnt related and that was perfect…. I loved how you used 80’s characters and cartoon style but made it more “grown up” or “dark”. Keep up the good work!!!!

I was planning the layout and drawing the next page this evening but it's getting late so I'll be starting again tommorow

More soon guys and girls.

www.trydowave.com

[Jester]

This comic warms the cockles of my cold, shrived heart...

[oldmanwinters]

Originally Posted by Tony Day

It slightly annoys you by knocking you over

My 'made up on the spot' reason: Even though April's a pretty bad shot she'd hit somthing eventually spraying all those bullets everywhere. So, (apart from including it coz it's in the game) I wanted beebops weird sonic weapon to deflect all the bullets and them. Apart from that, I've got no idea what the things does

Ha, I guess that's about the only thing that makes sense!

Maybe that's why I've always liked Bebop better than Rocksteady. R'steady just pulled out a machine gun but Bebop was the more compassionate, sensitive thug who was less willing to just blow his foes away. I always liked to think he was just an impressionable punk and R'steady was a bad influence on him!

Also, I'm glad you decided not to make April into some kind of super-skilled sharpshooter in Part 3. It's easy to believe she had to learn how to become a survivor in the Post-Part 2 New York, but she doesn't exactly need to be Ellen Ripley either. Still, that one panel was so funny, I just had to make it into a little free advert for you!

[Jester]

Originally Posted by oldmanwinters

Ha, I guess that's about the only thing that makes sense!

Maybe that's why I've always liked Bebop better than Rocksteady. R'steady just pulled out a machine gun but Bebop was the more compassionate, sensitive thug who was less willing to just blow his foes away. I always liked to think he was just an impressionable punk and R'steady was a bad influence on him!

Also, I'm glad you decided not to make April into some kind of super-skilled sharpshooter in Part 3. It's easy to believe she had to learn how to become a survivor in the Post-Part 2 New York, but she doesn't exactly need to be Ellen Ripley either. Still, that one panel was so funny, I just had to make it into a little free advert for you!

"Ahh, did I hoit youze? This'll make it bettah!"