I'm too fat to die!

NameGoesHere1066 · 09-18-2012, 11:09 AM

Ronald Post, Death Row Inmate, Says He's Too Obese To Execute

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...6pLid%3D207096

COLUMBUS, Ohio — A condemned Ohio inmate who weighs at least 480 pounds wants his upcoming execution delayed, saying his weight could lead to a "torturous and lingering death."

Ronald Post, who shot and killed a hotel clerk in northern Ohio almost 30 years ago, said his weight, vein access, scar tissue and other medical problems raise the likelihood his executioners would encounter severe problems. He's also so big that the execution gurney might not hold him, lawyers for Post said in federal court papers filed Friday.

"Indeed, given his unique physical and medical condition there is a substantial risk that any attempt to execute him will result in serious physical and psychological pain to him, as well as an execution involving a torturous and lingering death," the filing said.

Post, 53, is scheduled to die Jan. 16 for the 1983 shooting death of Helen Vantz in Elyria.

A spokeswoman for the prisons department had no comment on the pending litigation.

Inmates' weight has come up previously in death penalty cases in Ohio and elsewhere.

In 2008, federal courts rejected arguments by condemned double-killer Richard Cooey that he was too obese to die by injection. Cooey's attorneys had argued that prison food and limited opportunities to exercise contributed to a weight problem that would make it difficult for the execution team to find a viable vein for lethal injection.

Cooey, who was 5-foot-7 and weighed 267 pounds, was executed Oct. 14, 2008.

In 2007, it took Ohio executioners about two hours to insert IVs into the veins of condemned inmate Christopher Newton, who weighed about 265 pounds. A prison spokeswoman at the time said his size was an issue.

In 1994 in Washington state, a federal judge upheld the conviction of Mitchell Rupe, but agreed with Rupe's contention that at more than 400 pounds, he was too heavy to hang because of the risk of decapitation. Rupe argued that hanging would constitute cruel and unusual punishment.

After numerous court rulings and a third trial, Rupe was eventually sentenced to life in prison, where he died in 2006.

Ohio executes inmates with a single dose of pentobarbital, usually injected through the arms.

Medical personnel have had a hard time inserting IVs into Post's arms, according to the court filing. Four years ago, an Ohio State University medical center nurse needed three attempts to insert an IV into Post's left arm, the lawyers wrote.

Post has tried losing weight, but knee and back problems have made it difficult to exercise, according to his court filing.

Post's request for gastric bypass surgery has been denied, he's been encouraged not to walk because he's at risk for falling, and severe depression has contributed to his inability to limit how much he eats, his filing said.

While at the Mansfield Correctional Institution, Post "used that prison's exercise bike until it broke under his weight," according to the filing.

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LMAO! is this really for real? Only in this country would someone try to use their weight to get out of getting killed, and actually officials take it into serious consideration! Asinine!

If you guys want to get away with murder, start fattening up now!

Lampy · 09-18-2012, 12:15 PM

why does the forum section have so much death involved? sorry for getting this thread sidetracked.

*Sage Ninja* · 09-19-2012, 01:47 PM

apparently because this section has become the "RIP so-in-so" discussion area. I guess those topics are safer and don't cause the controversy other current events topics cause. Ever since the "Chick-fil-a" and "republicans against abortions" threads were locked up, this place has become more about saying farwell to actors and other people who have recently passed on, rather than discussing other current events. **shrugs**

Though whats there really to say about a guy being too over weight to get a lethal injection?

*AT-Man* · 09-19-2012, 03:58 PM

Yeah, you can't even bash religions anymore

*Candy Kappa* · 09-19-2012, 03:59 PM

I'm against execution, but for the sake of the argument. I'd look it at the executioners angle, if things go wrong, it could get messy. it's probably traumatic enough to kill someone, even if it is a murderer, and the sod screaming or whatnot, probably more.

I'm sure they'll find a way to off him.

Type 97 Chi-ha · 09-19-2012, 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

I'm against execution, but for the sake of the argument. I'd look it at the executioners angle, if things go wrong, it could get messy. it's probably traumatic enough to kill someone, even if it is a murderer, and the sod screaming or whatnot, probably more.

I'm sure they'll find a way to off him.

Put him on a weight-loss diet and he'll beg for death.

*Candy Kappa* · 09-19-2012, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Type 97 Chi-ha

Put him on a weight-loss diet and he'll beg for death.

Could also continue feeding him greasy junk food, I mean. The dude is huge, his heart must be working over time.

*KROW* · 09-20-2012, 10:15 AM

So, does this mean he won't get a last meal?

*Sage Ninja* · 09-20-2012, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

I'm against execution, but for the sake of the argument. I'd look it at the executioners angle, if things go wrong, it could get messy. it's probably traumatic enough to kill someone, even if it is a murderer, and the sod screaming or whatnot, probably more.

yeah, think of that scene in the movie "the green mile" where that excution of that french guy with the mouse went horribly, horribly wrong. Even the witnesses that wanted to see him fry were horrified. People want to see bad people get killed for their crimes, but I don't think they want a macabre display of human suffering of an execution gone wrong either. Hence all these ultra liberal attempts to execute people as humanly as possiable.

*Cure* · 09-20-2012, 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AT-Man

Yeah, you can't even bash religions anymore

Why the f*ck would you want to do that, anyway? What do you get out of that? Does it make you feel better about being a sh*thead?

*TheCanadiandrome* · 09-20-2012, 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KROW

So, does this mean he won't get a last meal?

No, it means he gets a tub of last meals, lol. Let him gorge himself to death

*AT-Man* · 09-21-2012, 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cure

Why the f*ck would you want to do that, anyway?

I didn't say I would do that, I just want to have the option.

*BubblyShell22* · 09-21-2012, 08:21 AM

Wow. This is ridiculous to say the least and a poor excuse on the person's part. "Yeah, I'm too fat, you can't off me."

09-18-2012, 11:09 AM	#1
NameGoesHere1066 Stone Warrior Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: at home LOL Posts: 957	I'm too fat to die! Ronald Post, Death Row Inmate, Says He's Too Obese To Execute http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...6pLid%3D207096 COLUMBUS, Ohio — A condemned Ohio inmate who weighs at least 480 pounds wants his upcoming execution delayed, saying his weight could lead to a "torturous and lingering death." Ronald Post, who shot and killed a hotel clerk in northern Ohio almost 30 years ago, said his weight, vein access, scar tissue and other medical problems raise the likelihood his executioners would encounter severe problems. He's also so big that the execution gurney might not hold him, lawyers for Post said in federal court papers filed Friday. "Indeed, given his unique physical and medical condition there is a substantial risk that any attempt to execute him will result in serious physical and psychological pain to him, as well as an execution involving a torturous and lingering death," the filing said. Post, 53, is scheduled to die Jan. 16 for the 1983 shooting death of Helen Vantz in Elyria. A spokeswoman for the prisons department had no comment on the pending litigation. Inmates' weight has come up previously in death penalty cases in Ohio and elsewhere. In 2008, federal courts rejected arguments by condemned double-killer Richard Cooey that he was too obese to die by injection. Cooey's attorneys had argued that prison food and limited opportunities to exercise contributed to a weight problem that would make it difficult for the execution team to find a viable vein for lethal injection. Cooey, who was 5-foot-7 and weighed 267 pounds, was executed Oct. 14, 2008. In 2007, it took Ohio executioners about two hours to insert IVs into the veins of condemned inmate Christopher Newton, who weighed about 265 pounds. A prison spokeswoman at the time said his size was an issue. In 1994 in Washington state, a federal judge upheld the conviction of Mitchell Rupe, but agreed with Rupe's contention that at more than 400 pounds, he was too heavy to hang because of the risk of decapitation. Rupe argued that hanging would constitute cruel and unusual punishment. After numerous court rulings and a third trial, Rupe was eventually sentenced to life in prison, where he died in 2006. Ohio executes inmates with a single dose of pentobarbital, usually injected through the arms. Medical personnel have had a hard time inserting IVs into Post's arms, according to the court filing. Four years ago, an Ohio State University medical center nurse needed three attempts to insert an IV into Post's left arm, the lawyers wrote. Post has tried losing weight, but knee and back problems have made it difficult to exercise, according to his court filing. Post's request for gastric bypass surgery has been denied, he's been encouraged not to walk because he's at risk for falling, and severe depression has contributed to his inability to limit how much he eats, his filing said. While at the Mansfield Correctional Institution, Post "used that prison's exercise bike until it broke under his weight," according to the filing. ____________________________ LMAO! is this really for real? Only in this country would someone try to use their weight to get out of getting killed, and actually officials take it into serious consideration! Asinine! If you guys want to get away with murder, start fattening up now! __________________ ]

09-19-2012, 01:47 PM	#3
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KROW Meat-n-Potatoes Man Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: State's Anus, NY Posts: 6,472	So, does this mean he won't get a last meal? __________________ - Optimus Acid Trip - Cult of a Half-Shell - Raiden's Bitter Tongue - *I don't try to be funny; I fail at it naturally.*

09-18-2012, 12:15 PM	#2
Lampy Stone Warrior Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 748	why does the forum section have so much death involved? sorry for getting this thread sidetracked.

09-21-2012, 08:21 AM	#13
BubblyShell22 Leo-holic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 16,912	Wow. This is ridiculous to say the least and a poor excuse on the person's part. "Yeah, I'm too fat, you can't off me." __________________ "A warrior who never fails, never learns."-The Ancient One. "Embrace your inner a**holiness."-Mr. Anderson.

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