Three Toes

Zog the Equalizer · 07-24-2011, 01:27 PM

So I've noticed that a lot of people seem to hate the new three toe design for the nick show, so I figured I might as well ask what people thought. Personally I don't really care either way. It seems to make sense since they have 3 fingers. I've never really understood why they didn't have five of both considering that turtles do, at least as far as I remember from the pet one I used to have.

*discordiatookie* · 07-24-2011, 01:32 PM

I'm in the camp of I don't really care that an extra toe has been added. I do find it a bit strange why it has been added, and haven't actually heard any explanations, but to be honest, in neither gets me up nor down.

*Revan* · 07-24-2011, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Replicant

So I've noticed that a lot of people seem to hate the new three toe design for the nick show, so I figured I might as well ask what people thought. Personally I don't really care either way. It seems to make sense since they have 3 fingers. I've never really understood why they didn't have five of both considering that turtles do, at least as far as I remember from the pet one I used to have.

They have always had three toes.

The new show designs simply moved their "heel toe" to the front.

I don't care but I admit I'm interested in why they felt the need to change it.

*ToTheNines* · 07-24-2011, 01:42 PM

I was pissed when I first heard about it. Mainly because the turtles have pretty much had the same type of foot no matter what show, movie or comic they were in, and adding a 3rd toe to that look would be very awkward. But as you can tell from what we've seen so far, this new character design totally overhauls their feet.

Honestly, the way their feet are drawn now, it would look awkward if they had two toes.

*gobo* · 07-24-2011, 01:58 PM

It's apparently not gonna be all Viacom-controlled incarnations, so I'm hardly concerned. Since I only have the vaguest, fleeting interest in the Nicktoon, that won't bug me much. If they decide to do it in the movie though, I'll be ticked. It's just distracting.

*Powder* · 07-24-2011, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines

I was pissed when I first heard about it. Mainly because the turtles have pretty much had the same type of foot no matter what show, movie or comic they were in, and adding a 3rd toe to that look would be very awkward. But as you can tell from what we've seen so far, this new character design totally overhauls their feet.

Honestly, the way their feet are drawn now, it would look awkward if they had two toes.

Same here. In the beginning I wanted to murder the employee who felt it was a good idea, now I just wanna kick 'em. It's whatever.

Zog the Equalizer · 07-24-2011, 03:06 PM

The more I look at the designs the more I'm starting to like it. At least in this particular style

*Donnie* · 07-24-2011, 03:07 PM

Personally, I love it and think it's better fitting.

**Jester** · 07-24-2011, 05:56 PM

Meh!

Spoiler:

*triplexxx* · 07-24-2011, 06:43 PM

Well I got to be honest, regardless of real-life turtle anatomy or what the "heel" is interpreted as, since I'm completely accustomed to seeing them with two, I don't support the idea. The pupils I never cared one way or the other, the finger- and toe-nails in the live action movies weren't much of a bother either, but this is anatomy change is a little too major in my opinion. That's my entire thought on this and I swear never to mention it again.

*Jephael* · 07-24-2011, 09:01 PM

This topic has been beaten like a dead horse long enough!

1984TMNT · 07-25-2011, 12:48 PM

Hate it. Aside from the fact that they've always had 2 toes, I Just don't like the look.

1984TMNT · 07-25-2011, 02:08 PM

What I don't quite get is the argument around the new foot design being "easier" to handle with CG when compared to the normal 2-toed (or "3" toes including the rear "heel"). Can anyone further explain this? If they can handle 3 fingers on their hands, one would think that the feel wouldn't be much different....?

*Candy Kappa* · 07-25-2011, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Neutrino

They have always had three toes.

The new show designs simply moved their "heel toe" to the front.

I don't care but I admit I'm interested in why they felt the need to change it.

I'm about the same here

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Originally Posted by 1984TMNT

What I don't quite get is the argument around the new foot design being "easier" to handle with CG when compared to the normal 2-toed (or "3" toes including the rear "heel"). Can anyone further explain this? If they can handle 3 fingers on their hands, one would think that the feel wouldn't be much different....?

the way they are designed now the animators don't need to animate too much, the feet are almost like a one big lump like a shoe. I guess 2 toes in the same circular style didn't look as good as they wanted it to be. So they gave them teddy bear feet

*Powder* · 07-25-2011, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 1984TMNT

What I don't quite get is the argument around the new foot design being "easier" to handle with CG when compared to the normal 2-toed (or "3" toes including the rear "heel"). Can anyone further explain this? If they can handle 3 fingers on their hands, one would think that the feel wouldn't be much different....?

It's probably easier to animate a big lump than it is the prong-esque feet of yore... I dunno.

1984TMNT · 07-25-2011, 04:29 PM

I'm sure it's easier, but if they have to do it for the fingers, is it really that much more work? That's what I don't get.

*gobo* · 07-25-2011, 04:37 PM

^ No, but it's just an extra corner they can cut.

*Kendamu* · 07-25-2011, 07:53 PM

Looking at what I saw at the MiP, it looks more like a style choice than cutting corners.

*gobo* · 07-25-2011, 08:08 PM

Well, ya can't expect them to admit it.

I'm sure the animators don't mind having to work with those ridged tree trunks rather than actual foot-fingers.

Vincent · 07-28-2011, 03:15 PM

I picked "I hate it" in the poll, but only for lack of better alternatives. I disagree with it and think it seems mostly like change for the sake of change, which seems pointless, since the two toes thing has kind of been consistently a part of the ninja turtle image throughout every incarnation in the past. Does it really matter in the grand scheme of things? No. But it's unnecessary.

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07-24-2011, 01:27 PM	#1
Zog the Equalizer Stone Warrior Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Corpus Christi, Texas Posts: 534	Three Toes So I've noticed that a lot of people seem to hate the new three toe design for the nick show, so I figured I might as well ask what people thought. Personally I don't really care either way. It seems to make sense since they have 3 fingers. I've never really understood why they didn't have five of both considering that turtles do, at least as far as I remember from the pet one I used to have. __________________ "Pork rind?" "Pork rind!"

07-24-2011, 01:32 PM	#2
discordiatookie facehugger Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Aberdeen, Scotland Posts: 2,817	I'm in the camp of I don't really care that an extra toe has been added. I do find it a bit strange why it has been added, and haven't actually heard any explanations, but to be honest, in neither gets me up nor down. __________________ Oh Discordia! Charyou Tree! Come, Reap! Don't tell us to grow up and out of it I got my cloak and dagger in a bar room brawl You actually trying to read this tiny text? Damn, you're dedicated! This is all just for effect you know... original TMNT art collection

07-24-2011, 01:58 PM	#5
gobo Wacky Action Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: on Earth Posts: 12,784	It's apparently not gonna be all Viacom-controlled incarnations, so I'm hardly concerned. Since I only have the vaguest, fleeting interest in the Nicktoon, that won't bug me much. If they decide to do it in the movie though, I'll be ticked. It's just distracting. __________________ Live and let live... or go to hell.

07-24-2011, 03:06 PM	#7
Zog the Equalizer Stone Warrior Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Corpus Christi, Texas Posts: 534	The more I look at the designs the more I'm starting to like it. At least in this particular style __________________ "Pork rind?" "Pork rind!"

07-24-2011, 01:42 PM	#4
ToTheNines Col. Stinkmeaner Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 19,016	I was pissed when I first heard about it. Mainly because the turtles have pretty much had the same type of foot no matter what show, movie or comic they were in, and adding a 3rd toe to that look would be very awkward. But as you can tell from what we've seen so far, this new character design totally overhauls their feet. Honestly, the way their feet are drawn now, it would look awkward if they had two toes.

07-24-2011, 03:07 PM	#8
Donnie Something from the Past Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: New York Posts: 3,256	Personally, I love it and think it's better fitting.

07-24-2011, 05:56 PM	#9
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,292	Meh! Spoiler: Made ya look! __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

07-24-2011, 06:43 PM	#10
triplexxx Mad Scientist Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,803	Well I got to be honest, regardless of real-life turtle anatomy or what the "heel" is interpreted as, since I'm completely accustomed to seeing them with two, I don't support the idea. The pupils I never cared one way or the other, the finger- and toe-nails in the live action movies weren't much of a bother either, but this is anatomy change is a little too major in my opinion. That's my entire thought on this and I swear never to mention it again. __________________ Please don't shoot me Mr. Big Mike. I'm too young and good-looking to die, well too young. I got a father, I got a mother, I got a grandmother, I got a little sister...and a little brother this high (raises hand), and a little brother this high (lowers hand), and little brother this high (lowers hand), and a little brother this high (lowers hand), and a little brother this high (lowers hand) and then I got a great big brother this high (slaps gun and runs). "Fright Night" - Three Stooges

07-24-2011, 09:01 PM	#11
Jephael That whack job behind you Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Carlisle, Pennsylvania Posts: 8,142	This topic has been beaten like a dead horse long enough! __________________ "I like it. Simple, but effective!" Raphael; The Mean Machines - 1988

07-25-2011, 12:48 PM	#12
1984TMNT Stone Warrior Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 566	Hate it. Aside from the fact that they've always had 2 toes, I Just don't like the look. __________________ Try to rely on YOUR, Turtle Power!

07-25-2011, 02:08 PM	#13
1984TMNT Stone Warrior Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 566	What I don't quite get is the argument around the new foot design being "easier" to handle with CG when compared to the normal 2-toed (or "3" toes including the rear "heel"). Can anyone further explain this? If they can handle 3 fingers on their hands, one would think that the feel wouldn't be much different....? __________________ Try to rely on YOUR, Turtle Power!

07-25-2011, 04:29 PM	#16
1984TMNT Stone Warrior Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 566	I'm sure it's easier, but if they have to do it for the fingers, is it really that much more work? That's what I don't get. __________________ Try to rely on YOUR, Turtle Power!

07-25-2011, 04:37 PM	#17
gobo Wacky Action Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: on Earth Posts: 12,784	^ No, but it's just an extra corner they can cut. __________________ Live and let live... or go to hell.

07-25-2011, 07:53 PM	#18
Kendamu Sewerhead Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 2,890	Looking at what I saw at the MiP, it looks more like a style choice than cutting corners.

07-25-2011, 08:08 PM	#19
gobo Wacky Action Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: on Earth Posts: 12,784	Well, ya can't expect them to admit it. I'm sure the animators don't mind having to work with those ridged tree trunks rather than actual foot-fingers. __________________ Live and let live... or go to hell.

07-28-2011, 03:15 PM	#20
Vincent Hench Mutant Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 293	I picked "I hate it" in the poll, but only for lack of better alternatives. I disagree with it and think it seems mostly like change for the sake of change, which seems pointless, since the two toes thing has kind of been consistently a part of the ninja turtle image throughout every incarnation in the past. Does it really matter in the grand scheme of things? No. But it's unnecessary. __________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHorFa22x3Q Hey, if Vanilla Ice and Partners in Kryme can do it, so can I.

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