Gas or Hope

[Allio]

What is that feeling in your gut about TMNT 2 so far?

[IndigoErth]

So that really was meant how I thought... lol

Hmm... presently I'm going to have to go with light indigestion.

[Amaranthus]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

So that really was meant how I thought... lol

Hmm... presently I'm going to have to go with light indigestion.

More like Indigostion.
I'm so sorry.

[IndigoErth]

Har har. It's a rare condition.

[neatoman]

Uh well, here are my thoughts on it. It's probably going to suck. Visually speaking, TMNT fans might enjoy the designs of several characters better this time around and the cinematography might just look like just another action movie, so I'm fine with that.

What worries me is the writing, the director might be new but it still has the same writers (minus one) from the last movie, and we all know how that was a little too "inspired by" the Amazing Spider-Man and the Wolverine. That was especially shameful considering that not only did it take from really recent films, TMNT had plenty of material to adapt on it's own, there was no need to copy from something else or at least not to that extent.

Also, I fear this new movie might also take the worst part of the Amazing Spider-Man 1 and 2, the build up of too many plot threads and/or characters. In addition to the nine major characters returning, we'll have at least five new characters coming into the picture. This could lead to yet another cluster **** movie...

[TrickOrTreater]

The inclusion of MORE characters that I like into a sequel to a movie that sucked balls, that is bringing back everyone except the director, gives me absolutely zero hope.

I have less hope than I did after Bay announced the Turtles would still be mutants before the first film started filming.

Zero hope.

[pennydreadful]

Originally Posted by Allio

What is that feeling in your gut about TMNT 2 so far?

Like I've taken one too many laxatives.

[Candy Kappa]

Explosive diarrhea, the burning kind that makes you pass out in pain.

[Shred Head]

There is no hope for this movie its still the same production crew and writers from the first one. They never owned up to any of the problems the movie had in the first place. If anything the only reason we are getting Ninjas and other mutants in this movie because the higher ups at Viacom weren't happy with the toy sales of the last movie.

Its a giant toy ad for ids and that not always and bad thing if you have a competent staff but the first movie proved that we didn't.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

You know, that's something that I'm curious about. How well did the merchandising for this movie preformed? I hardly see anybody carrying anything related to this movie.

As for me, well, it's really hard to say. There are some things that look to be an improvement (hopefully a more active Shredder, a new Karai, an interesting choice for Baxter Stockman, the foot clan as ninjas) but there are still other things that bother me (the overcrowded cast of characters, basketball player cameos, a Victorious Secret model, April not getting a recast). I want to say that I am curiously optimistic but with the same writers and producer, it's hard to get my hopes up.

I'm probably aiming for it will be slightly better but not by much.

[MrTMNT2012]

First movie was great fun, this one looks even better and crazier! Can't wait.

[ImmaAxolotl]

Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

Explosive diarrhea, the burning kind that makes you pass out in pain.

Oh, you get that, too? I thought it was just because I had too much dairy products.

[B-Man]

I have hope it'll be another fun summer popcorn flick. Hoping for anything beyond that from Platinum Dunes is unrealistic/pointless.

[PangolinFeets]

I have hope that it will be more enjoyable than the first one, which isn't saying much. At the very least, Bebop and Rocksteady antics should keep me entertained.

[Commenter 42]

Originally Posted by B-Man

I have hope it'll be another fun summer popcorn flick. Hoping for anything beyond that from Platinum Dunes is unrealistic/pointless.

Why you gotta go and besmirch the good name of fun summer popcorn flick?
That's just cruel.

[Wolfie65]

If you switch off your brain, pretend you've never heard of the Turtles before, and just take it for what it is - a cool sci-fi/superhero action flick very loosely based on a comic book - the first movie is pretty cool.
Which is precisely why the General Public loved it, the die-hards hated it.
Sequels almost always suck, I do have a queasy feeling that they're going to do exactly the wrong thing and go even more hyper-mega-ultra-over-the-top with Special FX, giant whatever, flipping cars, exploding universes and so on.
No Hitchcock, all Spielberg.

[Bry]

I'm sorry, but the second a version of "shut your brain off" comes into the conversation, you're not dealing with a good movie. You're just not. Plenty of movies about weird/goofy concepts -- even weirder/goofier than TMNT in some cases! -- are able to tell a good story that engages the audience on an emotional and/or intellectual level, with great characters in a well-realized world. That's what makes a good movie. Hell, here's a quote from Pixar's John Lasseter that sums it all up:

Every movie has three things you have to do – you have to have a compelling story that keeps people on the edge of their seats; you have to populate that story with memorable and appealing characters; and you have to put that story and those characters in a believable world. Those three things are so vitally important.

BayTurtles didn't do any of that. It wasn't a good TMNT movie, and it wasn't a good movie in its own right. It wasn't even a competent movie.

Some people liked it and some hated it, among fans and the general audience alike. And they're allowed to like/dislike it as much as they do. But I'll never see how anyone could be satisfied with it on a character/story level unless they've set their standards bar so low that any dope with a camera could trip over it. If you're happy watching 100 minutes of bad video-game cut scenes? Okay, cool, here's your movie. But there's no reason, or excuse, for any producer or director worth their salt not to aim higher than that.

[Leo656]

Originally Posted by Bry

I'm sorry, but the second a version of "shut your brain off" comes into the conversation, you're not dealing with a good movie. You're just not.

OH my GOD. THANK YOU. I immediately check out when someone pulls the "Shut Your Brain Off" card.

Some of us can't. AND, for being analytical thinkers who aren't afraid to dissect something (while often still enjoying it regardless) or simply look below the surface, we should be celebrated rather than demonized.

"You think too much." Whaaaaaat. I swear, I grew up my whole life never hearing THAT nonsense until very, very recently.

[TrickOrTreater]

Originally Posted by Bry

I'm sorry, but the second a version of "shut your brain off" comes into the conversation, you're not dealing with a good movie. You're just not. Plenty of movies about weird/goofy concepts -- even weirder/goofier than TMNT in some cases! -- are able to tell a good story that engages the audience on an emotional and/or intellectual level, with great characters in a well-realized world. That's what makes a good movie. Hell, here's a quote from Pixar's John Lasseter that sums it all up:



BayTurtles didn't do any of that. It wasn't a good TMNT movie, and it wasn't a good movie in its own right. It wasn't even a competent movie.

Some people liked it and some hated it, among fans and the general audience alike. And they're allowed to like/dislike it as much as they do. But I'll never see how anyone could be satisfied with it on a character/story level unless they've set their standards bar so low that any dope with a camera could trip over it. If you're happy watching 100 minutes of bad video-game cut scenes? Okay, cool, here's your movie. But there's no reason, or excuse, for any producer or director worth their salt not to aim higher than that.

Originally Posted by Leo656

OH my GOD. THANK YOU. I immediately check out when someone pulls the "Shut Your Brain Off" card.

Some of us can't. AND, for being analytical thinkers who aren't afraid to dissect something (while often still enjoying it regardless) or simply look below the surface, we should be celebrated rather than demonized.

"You think too much." Whaaaaaat. I swear, I grew up my whole life never hearing THAT nonsense until very, very recently.

It's why I have that Harold Ramis quote in my signature.

I shouldn't have to shut my brain off to enjoy a movie. It should be good enough to not suck.

[Allio]

I can't tell if I am disappointed in the ratio in the voting.