Why is Casey Jones even IN this version of TMNT?!

*Papenbrook* · 02-17-2016, 02:23 PM

Honestly, I don't think the show should have him.

At first, I was excited for his inclusion in the Nick universe. I thought he had the potential to become a great ally for the turtles. I especially thought he was going to stand out on his own. However, he started to become really unlikable,and my appreciation for him started to wane.

Recently, I questioned why Casey was included in this show to begin with. It didn't make any sense. However, I had one theory of why he was included in the series.

Spoiler:

That has to be it. That has to be why he was brought in .

I mean, there are several factors of why he didn't have to be in the show.

- His rivalry with Hun is completely dropped. Hun is basically a static character right now. He started to show up less and less as time went on. I don't think the show is going to continue the rivalry.
- He doesn't interact with Raph that often in this version. So, he (Casey) is just taking up space.
- Casey started getting more annoying as time went on, even to the point of being unbearable.( "This is awesome!", anyone?)

So, in conclusion, Casey shouldn't be in this version. The show should only have April.

*Autbot_Benz* · 02-17-2016, 02:26 PM

Casey has been in almost every version of the turtles Mirage Comics 80 cartoon 90's movie 3rd movie 2003 cartoon 2007 movie and bay 2nd movie besides nick cartoon.

As a Casey fan I like nick Casey sure he isn't perfect but its a different take on him a much younger high school age Casey.

*IndigoErth* · 02-17-2016, 02:38 PM

I suppose they could have left him out and brushed it off as someone they wouldn't know until they were older, but it's Casey, he's bound to be there, and not just because of fan popularity. And how he is in some/other versions, it's not surprising a teen version of him might be like this and not always too likable.

*plastroncafe* · 02-17-2016, 02:42 PM

*neatoman* · 02-17-2016, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by plastroncafe

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Where is that from?

*Ninturtle* · 02-17-2016, 02:53 PM

The same reasln why Leonardo, Michelangelo, Donatello, Michelangelo, and Splinter are in the show, because they're necessary charactersto TMNT lore. Stop making silly threads.

*plastroncafe* · 02-17-2016, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by neatoman

Where is that from?

Only one of the greatest motion pictures to ever be committed to celluloid!
Josie and the Pussycats

For serious though, I love this movie unironically.

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 02-17-2016, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninturtle

The same reasln why Leonardo, Michelangelo, Donatello, Michelangelo, and Splinter are in the show, because they're necessary charactersto TMNT lore. Stop making silly threads.

I think she has a point. Casey hasn't really done much...

*Candy Kappa* · 02-17-2016, 03:02 PM

I like Nick Casey, bit underdeveloped which is a common symptom in the show, but he and his missing teeth is a nice addition.

*CyberCubed* · 02-17-2016, 03:20 PM

Casey's had tons of episodes, as well as episodes where he helped the Turtles. I wonder if some people have collective amnesia or something.

*Ninturtle* · 02-17-2016, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

I think she has a point. Casey hasn't really done much...

But he's still an essential character, instead of saying "Why is Casey Jones in this version of TMNT" she should've said "Why is Casey Jones Under Used in This version of TMNT". Makes way more sense and I wouldn't have a problem with the thread.

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 02-17-2016, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninturtle

But he's still an essential character, instead of saying "Why is Casey Jones in this version of TMNT" she should've said "Why is Casey Jones Under Used in This version of TMNT". Makes way more sense and I wouldn't have a problem with the thread.

Semantics. If you're not going to use a character, there's not much reason to include them. And honestly, Casey hasn't done that many unique "Casey" things in awhile from what I understand...

*plastroncafe* · 02-17-2016, 03:43 PM

I'm not up to date on the series, but for me Casey fills the "Not As Stupid as Mike" and "Not as Angry as Raph" position on the character spectrum. Plus he's a foil for Don, a love interest for April, and a bff for Raph.

*snake* · 02-17-2016, 04:59 PM

He's alright. A little annoying but I don't mind him too much. He really needs to buddy up with a turtle already.

Desslok · 02-17-2016, 05:00 PM

Because if he wasn't everyone would be asking "Why is Casey Jones NOT in this version of TMNT?!"

*Ninturtle* · 02-17-2016, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

Semantics. If you're not going to use a character, there's not much reason to include them. And honestly, Casey hasn't done that many unique "Casey" things in awhile from what I understand...

That's kind of like saying "Don isn't used much so he shouldn't be in", Jones is a staple and in almost every version of the TMNT he's almost as important as the turtles. You just can't not have a central character from the franchise, which is why I find the thread stupid. He's not under used per se just not focused on and poorly written at times, but the solution isn't to say the character shouldn't be included. It's way more logical to advocate for the character to be fixed than to just get rid of him.
I also found PK's argument about Hun odd because nothing is indicating that he won't show up again and he's only showed up twice so it's bot like he was a central character and just stopped appearing.

*Powder* · 02-17-2016, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Papenbrook

I mean, there are several factors of why he didn't have to be in the show.

- His rivalry with Hun is completely dropped. Hun is basically a static character right now. He started to show up less and less as time went on. I don't think the show is going to continue the rivalry.
- He doesn't interact with Raph that often in this version. So, he (Casey) is just taking up space.
- Casey started getting more annoying as time went on, even to the point of being unbearable.( "This is awesome!", anyone?)

So, in conclusion, Casey shouldn't be in this version. The show should only have April.

-His rivalry with Hun is from 4kids. This rivalry was not in any key Mirage books (Pete only added it into a side-seires during the late 2000's due to liking a young writer's vision for his inclusion), nor the OT, live-action films or TMNT (2007). Not a defining part of his character by any means. Nick did it as a nod, nothing more.

-That's good. He never gets enough bonding time with the other turtles usually. He's not taking up space, he's another friend & more muscle.

-Entirely subjective.

Your reasons are booty.

**Jester** · 02-17-2016, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by plastroncafe

Only one of the greatest motion pictures to ever be committed to celluloid!
Josie and the Pussycats

For serious though, I love this movie unironically.

Severely underrated satire.

*plastroncafe* · 02-17-2016, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester

Severely underrated satire.

Agreed. I do wonder if it's aged well, bit I'm way to biased to tell for sure.

Probably not, note that I think on it. It has Carson Daly. That's never a good sign.

nellyp · 02-17-2016, 09:16 PM

I am glad Casey is in the show, but this version is not what I wanted. Casey has always been that tough guy, meathead kind of sports nut. This Casey is kinda skinny and a bit emo. The creators have dabbled with changing characters from other incarnations with both positive and negative success (the new neutrinos are an abomination) and this Casey kinda breaks the mold. Maybe if the human characters grow past this early teen phase we can see Casey evolve a bit. He can still be a bit of a dummy but make him more of a physical powerhouse. Get him in the gym or get the boy some steroids or something! He can't take on the foot and purple dragons forever with those toothpick arms and cans of spray paint!

02-17-2016, 02:23 PM	#1
Papenbrook I'm leaving. Goodbye. :) Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: No comment -_- ... Posts: 2,754	Why is Casey Jones even IN this version of TMNT?! Honestly, I don't think the show should have him. At first, I was excited for his inclusion in the Nick universe. I thought he had the potential to become a great ally for the turtles. I especially thought he was going to stand out on his own. However, he started to become really unlikable,and my appreciation for him started to wane. Recently, I questioned why Casey was included in this show to begin with. It didn't make any sense. However, I had one theory of why he was included in the series. Spoiler: Fandom popularity... That has to be it. That has to be why he was brought in . I mean, there are several factors of why he didn't have to be in the show. - His rivalry with Hun is completely dropped. Hun is basically a static character right now. He started to show up less and less as time went on. I don't think the show is going to continue the rivalry. - He doesn't interact with Raph that often in this version. So, he (Casey) is just taking up space. - Casey started getting more annoying as time went on, even to the point of being unbearable.( "This is awesome!", anyone?) So, in conclusion, Casey shouldn't be in this version. The show should only have April.

02-17-2016, 02:26 PM	#2
Autbot_Benz Hellblazer Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ventura California Posts: 9,190	Casey has been in almost every version of the turtles Mirage Comics 80 cartoon 90's movie 3rd movie 2003 cartoon 2007 movie and bay 2nd movie besides nick cartoon. As a Casey fan I like nick Casey sure he isn't perfect but its a different take on him a much younger high school age Casey. __________________ I respect what FW cartoon did for the turtles franchise but it is the most overrated and hard to watch of the 3 turtles cartoons.

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Candy Kappa The Agenda of Existing Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Vikingland Posts: 14,596	I like Nick Casey, bit underdeveloped which is a common symptom in the show, but he and his missing teeth is a nice addition. __________________ devianArt Instagram Youtube Tumblr Art Blog Patreon

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02-17-2016, 02:38 PM	#3
IndigoErth Team Blue Boy Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: U.S., East Coast Posts: 16,295	I suppose they could have left him out and brushed it off as someone they wouldn't know until they were older, but it's Casey, he's bound to be there, and not just because of fan popularity. And how he is in some/other versions, it's not surprising a teen version of him might be like this and not always too likable.

02-17-2016, 02:53 PM	#6
Ninturtle Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2014 Location: Earth Posts: 1,534	The same reasln why Leonardo, Michelangelo, Donatello, Michelangelo, and Splinter are in the show, because they're necessary charactersto TMNT lore. Stop making silly threads.

02-17-2016, 03:20 PM	#10
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,880	Casey's had tons of episodes, as well as episodes where he helped the Turtles. I wonder if some people have collective amnesia or something.

02-17-2016, 04:59 PM	#14
snake Disgusting Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Outer Heaven Posts: 12,231	He's alright. A little annoying but I don't mind him too much. He really needs to buddy up with a turtle already.

02-17-2016, 09:16 PM	#20
nellyp Stone Warrior Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Moncton, NB, Canada Posts: 545	I am glad Casey is in the show, but this version is not what I wanted. Casey has always been that tough guy, meathead kind of sports nut. This Casey is kinda skinny and a bit emo. The creators have dabbled with changing characters from other incarnations with both positive and negative success (the new neutrinos are an abomination) and this Casey kinda breaks the mold. Maybe if the human characters grow past this early teen phase we can see Casey evolve a bit. He can still be a bit of a dummy but make him more of a physical powerhouse. Get him in the gym or get the boy some steroids or something! He can't take on the foot and purple dragons forever with those toothpick arms and cans of spray paint!