Old cartoon bashing?

**Karpo_007** · 11-13-2003, 03:33 AM

Since Krang didn't give me any chance to defend my self, Im doing it here. Krang. How was I bashing the old cartoon in the wich is better thread again? I found one comment very funny, and thats all. It was funny, because if not for yor rule, I could have told why I found it so funny. For respect of that rule, I have done my best to not talk about the Neagtive things of the old show. And yet here we go again.

You are biassed towards the old cartoon, I get that, but you also seem to have a big problem if someone likes the new cartoon better, and say what they don't like about the old cartoon. But that didn't happen in that thread. There was no spam or any arguments going on, and no Old cartoon bashing from mine, or any ohers part[atleast the last time I read it].

Valorxii · 11-13-2003, 03:57 AM

yeah from what ive read thats all true. give threads a abit of flexibility and life. it would be pretty boring if everyone agreed.

**Barkworm** · 11-13-2003, 04:01 AM

I have to back up Karpo. I think you are taking your old series fandom way too serious, Krang. Karpo did an sarcastic remark on Shellfox' comment, that's all (and saying the new series is repetitive in comparison to the new one is funny indeed imo). There was no bashing, not near. It really seems like you get pissed off whenever someone has to say anything slightly negative about the old show like it was a holy cow or something.
Sorry but even thinking about taking Karpo's mod position away because of baby crap like that is pathetic.

**GK Punk** · 11-13-2003, 04:10 AM

To be fair to Krang, this site IS about the old 'toon and not the new one.
Now we've gone from "Toon bashing" almost to Krang bashing. lovely.

**Karpo_007** · 11-13-2003, 04:16 AM

Yes, I will take my bashing and leave. I made a thread in General discussion.

**Barkworm** · 11-13-2003, 04:17 AM

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To be fair to Krang, this site IS about the old 'toon and not the new one.
Now we've gone from "Toon bashing" almost to Krang bashing. lovely.

I get that but this time Karpo's comment wasn't really bad enough to consider it "bashing". Krang is exaggerating!
And Karpo, I don't think it's necessary to leave, not because of that.

*VaughnMichael* · 11-13-2003, 04:33 AM

man i am sorry dont go
thats just silly
I dont see why it is fair for people to bash the new show and the next mutation hell
even the last 3 season of the old show get bashed but thats ok...
*shakes head and walks away in anger*
Vaughn Michael

EZweasel · 11-13-2003, 04:34 AM

do what you feel is right, but i dont want to see you go even though we disagree on alot of stuff. i need you here to post those ratings also

**Karpo_007** · 11-13-2003, 04:38 AM

This is not a decision I made in a split second. Check my thread in General discussion.

*Dane E5R* · 11-13-2003, 04:54 AM

Man, sorry, nothing against Krang, but I have to agree with Karpo. He did NOTHING to warrent such a harsh warning, or to warrent locking up that thread.

Valorxii · 11-13-2003, 05:33 AM

just to note as well. so what if there is an argument. why can't people disagree? seriously...

**Krang** · 11-13-2003, 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Karpo_007

Since Krang didn't give me any chance to defend my self, Im doing it here. Krang. How was I bashing the old cartoon in the wich is better thread again? I found one comment very funny, and thats all. It was funny, because if not for yor rule, I could have told why I found it so funny. For respect of that rule, I have done my best to not talk about the Neagtive things of the old show. And yet here we go again.

I posted that because I'm sick of seeing people ridicule others for having a different opinion than them, and that's exactly what you did, Karpo. If someone said something like "the new cartoon is way more popular than the old one" or something like that, I doubt there would be anyone laughing at them, just most likely a polite correction. I think fans of the old cartoon get unfair treatment by the other members here, so I'm trying to even things out.

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You are biassed towards the old cartoon, I get that, but you also seem to have a big problem if someone likes the new cartoon better, and say what they don't like about the old cartoon. But that didn't happen in that thread. There was no spam or any arguments going on, and no Old cartoon bashing from mine, or any ohers part[atleast the last time I read it].

No, I don't care if people like the new cartoon better, or even if they say they don't like the old cartoon. But I'm not going to let people get ridiculed for having an opinion that isn't "popular." Besides, your comment wasn't what caused me to lock the thread, it was because I knew that people on the board couldn't handle a thread like that based on past experience.

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Originally Posted by barkworm

Sorry but even thinking about taking Karpo's mod position away because of baby crap like that is pathetic.

It's not "baby crap," it's a nagging problem. And it's not just Karpo that is causing it.

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Originally Posted by Putrescent

I dont see why it is fair for people to bash the new show and the next mutation hell
even the last 3 season of the old show get bashed but thats ok...

How would you like it if you made a message board about the new show, and it was taken over by fans of the old one who began bashing the new cartoon and ridiculing its fans? Now do you see how I feel?

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Originally Posted by Valorxii

just to note as well. so what if there is an argument. why can't people disagree? seriously...

Disagree, yes. Flame wars, no. I already have to deal with enough problems here, I don't want to have to try to control a flame war.

Wow, it's amazing to see how quickly people turn on me after I provide a free message board for them without asking anything in return other than to follow some simple rules...

*raphael_is_cool* · 11-13-2003, 05:56 AM

People can disagree but soon it escalates to personal attacks which I think Krang wants to avoid, he had some point in saying threads like that are a bit pointless because they start arguments (but I don't think that was the creator's intentions).

I can see where Krang is coming from, this the only message board I've seen that isn't full of arguing and fighting, it's always so friendly and I'm thankful for that. But I believe Krang is wrong for singling out 1 person or taking remarks to heart. The consequences he pointed out seem harsh and everyone knows they have a right to an opinion; you can make people say things (or not in this case) under rules, but you can't make people believe it (1984 reference I think, go smartass me

)

I for one have happy memories of the old show as a kid and it showed me the whole world of TMNT. I wouldn't really watch the old show now but I don't hate it

**GK Punk** · 11-13-2003, 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Krang

Wow, it's amazing to see how quickly people turn on me after I provide a free message board for them without asking anything in return other than to follow some simple rules...

see. this is what I was afraid of...
Ever since something over at paradigm city happened, I was afraid that Krang would feel un-appreciated after all he's done for the TMNT Fan community.

Something that needs to be remembered is Krang is a person outside of the forums, just like the rest of us. Certain posts can hurt his feelings, or make him feel like his work is for nothing.

I'm not so sure they really are Turning on you Krang, I think it was just a big misunderstanding.

Call me an ass kisser if you want, but that's just how I feel. I just feel bad for the big guy. He puts up with a lot of our crap, and asks for nothing in return. 's all Im trying to say.

Valorxii · 11-13-2003, 06:16 AM

"How would you like it if you made a message board about the new show, and it was taken over by fans of the old one who began bashing the new cartoon and ridiculing its fans? Now do you see how I feel?"

Okay I can appreciate you've given us the message board, thanks alot.

But this thread just is just saying that back there in that thread, there was no bashing of the old cartoon, and as Karpo was being sarcastic with his humor, not ridiculing.

**Karpo_007** · 11-13-2003, 09:22 AM

Krang, I have a lot respect for you for keeping this place up, and as far as I know paying for it. And that is why I consider leaving. In other message boards I have seen very brutal comments about the old show, and now understand perfectly why you don't want same thing happening here. But like I said in the other thread, I have tried my best not to bash the old show. I didn't meant to ridicule Shellfox, but that was the only way I could respond without going into details, and I wanted to avoid that because it's usually considered bashing.

I'm suprised how many people actually want me to stay... I guess I will try harder once again. And now to update the Farewell thread.

Ninja Turtles Cartoon Fan · 11-13-2003, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Krang

I posted that because I'm sick of seeing people ridicule others for having a different opinion than them, and that's exactly what you did, Karpo. If someone said something like "the new cartoon is way more popular than the old one" or something like that, I doubt there would be anyone laughing at them, just most likely a polite correction. I think fans of the old cartoon get unfair treatment by the other members here, so I'm trying to even things out.

Yes, I'm definitely in agreement with Krang on this one.

We have so many different personalities here at the forums that disagreements and arguments will inevitably occur. However, the problem I see (from my point of view) is that people take things wwwaaaaaayyy too seriously.

It seems to me that the Land of the Free has become the Land of the Easily Offended. Not a single person can share their honest opinion around here without a hoard of other people wanting to crucify him for it. And that doesn't just apply here at the Technodrome; this could easily encompass all of America. As soon as somebody says something we don't like, they're burned in effigy.

I like disagreements every now and then. It keeps things fresh around here. But, good Lord, some people around here need to take a chill pill. Is something somebody posted really going to matter a year from now? How about a month? A week, maybe?

Nothing that anyone says on here is worth getting all uptight about; the exception to this would be when people start taking personal jabs at others. And that's something we don't need around here.

There is nothing wrong with expressing your opinion. You can dislike the old cartoon or love it. You can hate the comic book or cherish it. But please, people, all this verbal thrasing over petty issues is wearing thin.

"We must fall many times before we learn to stand." - Splinter, from "Turtles of the Jungle"

~~Reznorite420~~ · 11-13-2003, 11:01 AM

Do I sense an upcomign reshuffling of mod/admin power on the TD forums?

Sorry, I don't have any real position on this issue, just wondering what the hey is going on, that's all.

Shellfox · 11-13-2003, 11:46 AM

All I can say is I agree with krang.

I'm not sucking up, and I don't care that this basicly started cause Karpo didn't like what I said= his opinion, his right

The simple truth is Karpo is respected here, and very very vocal as to his opionins, and those opinions at times go aginst the very fondation of this board. And since many people seem to follow Karpos lead striking him down might make the others think twice about crossing the boss and following the basic rules of the site.

Diffrent people have diffrent definitions of Bashing, and over the last few weeks it seems a lot has been bashed for the sack of bashing

**Karpo_007** · 11-13-2003, 11:53 AM

I already said I had no intentions of riduling you, Fact is I could have written a long detailed response to those claims, but that would have gone to old cartoon bashing. Maybe you should drop it as well.

11-13-2003, 03:33 AM	#1
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Old cartoon bashing? Since Krang didn't give me any chance to defend my self, Im doing it here. Krang. How was I bashing the old cartoon in the wich is better thread again? I found one comment very funny, and thats all. It was funny, because if not for yor rule, I could have told why I found it so funny. For respect of that rule, I have done my best to not talk about the Neagtive things of the old show. And yet here we go again. You are biassed towards the old cartoon, I get that, but you also seem to have a big problem if someone likes the new cartoon better, and say what they don't like about the old cartoon. But that didn't happen in that thread. There was no spam or any arguments going on, and no Old cartoon bashing from mine, or any ohers part[atleast the last time I read it].

11-13-2003, 04:01 AM	#3
Barkworm Draconian leftist ruler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 6,757	I have to back up Karpo. I think you are taking your old series fandom way too serious, Krang. Karpo did an sarcastic remark on Shellfox' comment, that's all (and saying the new series is repetitive in comparison to the new one is funny indeed imo). There was no bashing, not near. It really seems like you get pissed off whenever someone has to say anything slightly negative about the old show like it was a holy cow or something. Sorry but even thinking about taking Karpo's mod position away because of baby crap like that is pathetic. __________________ Make ****, not kill!

11-13-2003, 04:33 AM	#7
VaughnMichael I'm Baaaaaaccck! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 11,833	Karpo_007 man i am sorry dont go thats just silly I dont see why it is fair for people to bash the new show and the next mutation hell even the last 3 season of the old show get bashed but thats ok... shakes head and walks away in anger Vaughn Michael

11-13-2003, 04:34 AM	#8
EZweasel Stone Warrior Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 847	do what you feel is right, but i dont want to see you go even though we disagree on alot of stuff. i need you here to post those ratings also __________________

11-13-2003, 04:54 AM	#10
Dane E5R Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Topeka, Kansas Posts: 1,602	Man, sorry, nothing against Krang, but I have to agree with Karpo. He did NOTHING to warrent such a harsh warning, or to warrent locking up that thread. __________________ http://www.luckyusshow.com

11-13-2003, 03:57 AM	#2
Valorxii Foot Soldier Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 181	yeah from what ive read thats all true. give threads a abit of flexibility and life. it would be pretty boring if everyone agreed.

11-13-2003, 04:10 AM	#4
GK Punk I'm your Devil Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,439	To be fair to Krang, this site IS about the old 'toon and not the new one. Now we've gone from "Toon bashing" almost to Krang bashing. lovely.

11-13-2003, 04:16 AM	#5
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Yes, I will take my bashing and leave. I made a thread in General discussion.

11-13-2003, 04:38 AM	#9
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	This is not a decision I made in a split second. Check my thread in General discussion.

11-13-2003, 05:33 AM	#11
Valorxii Foot Soldier Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 181	just to note as well. so what if there is an argument. why can't people disagree? seriously...

11-13-2003, 05:56 AM	#13
raphael_is_cool Mad Scientist Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: England Posts: 2,151	People can disagree but soon it escalates to personal attacks which I think Krang wants to avoid, he had some point in saying threads like that are a bit pointless because they start arguments (but I don't think that was the creator's intentions). I can see where Krang is coming from, this the only message board I've seen that isn't full of arguing and fighting, it's always so friendly and I'm thankful for that. But I believe Krang is wrong for singling out 1 person or taking remarks to heart. The consequences he pointed out seem harsh and everyone knows they have a right to an opinion; you can make people say things (or not in this case) under rules, but you can't make people believe it (1984 reference I think, go smartass me ) I for one have happy memories of the old show as a kid and it showed me the whole world of TMNT. I wouldn't really watch the old show now but I don't hate it

11-13-2003, 06:16 AM	#15
Valorxii Foot Soldier Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 181	"How would you like it if you made a message board about the new show, and it was taken over by fans of the old one who began bashing the new cartoon and ridiculing its fans? Now do you see how I feel?" Okay I can appreciate you've given us the message board, thanks alot. But this thread just is just saying that back there in that thread, there was no bashing of the old cartoon, and as Karpo was being sarcastic with his humor, not ridiculing.

11-13-2003, 09:22 AM	#16
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Krang, I have a lot respect for you for keeping this place up, and as far as I know paying for it. And that is why I consider leaving. In other message boards I have seen very brutal comments about the old show, and now understand perfectly why you don't want same thing happening here. But like I said in the other thread, I have tried my best not to bash the old show. I didn't meant to ridicule Shellfox, but that was the only way I could respond without going into details, and I wanted to avoid that because it's usually considered bashing. I'm suprised how many people actually want me to stay... I guess I will try harder once again. And now to update the Farewell thread.

11-13-2003, 11:01 AM	#18
~~Reznorite420~~ Banned Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 3,851	Do I sense an upcomign reshuffling of mod/admin power on the TD forums? Sorry, I don't have any real position on this issue, just wondering what the hey is going on, that's all.

11-13-2003, 11:46 AM	#19
Shellfox Mad Scientist Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,234	All I can say is I agree with krang. I'm not sucking up, and I don't care that this basicly started cause Karpo didn't like what I said= his opinion, his right The simple truth is Karpo is respected here, and very very vocal as to his opionins, and those opinions at times go aginst the very fondation of this board. And since many people seem to follow Karpos lead striking him down might make the others think twice about crossing the boss and following the basic rules of the site. Diffrent people have diffrent definitions of Bashing, and over the last few weeks it seems a lot has been bashed for the sack of bashing __________________ We're americans, We build Monster Trucks for fun! Imagin what we'll build when you piss us off!!- Christopher Titus

11-13-2003, 11:53 AM	#20
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	I already said I had no intentions of riduling you, Fact is I could have written a long detailed response to those claims, but that would have gone to old cartoon bashing. Maybe you should drop it as well.

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