TMNT Adventures vol. 4 and TMNT Classics vol. 4

[John Pannozzi]

http://www.amazon.com/Teenage-Mutant..._bxgy_b_text_z

The all-ages TMNT action continues in this collection of TMNT Adventures! Enjoy classic Turtles tales like "The Final Conflict," "Leave Heaven Alone," "The Howling of Distant Shadows," and "Dreadging The Ocean Blue."

http://www.amazon.com/Teenage-Mutant...ref=pd_sim_b_1

Judging by the credits, I assume this will include TMNT Vol. 1 #32-34.

[CyberCubed]

It's sad to see so many Volume 1 stories skipped.

[Metropoliskid41]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

It's sad to see so many Volume 1 stories skipped.

My sentiments as well, hopefully we eventually see them all collected in one form or another.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by Metropoliskid41

My sentiments as well, hopefully we eventually see them all collected in one form or another.

I understand why Rick Veitch's stories are skipped, but why is #18 being skipped? Didn't Eastman work with Bode on that story?

[LeoNerdo]

Another nice Dooney cover. McWeeney is far from my favs though.

Edit:

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I understand why Rick Veitch's stories are skipped, but why is #18 being skipped? Didn't Eastman work with Bode on that story?

Yes. Which is odd if 32 is in there since that was A Bode story as well.

[CyberCubed]

They're collecting Volume 1 in order, (excluding the issues in the Ultimate Collections, which are getting single color releases anyway), but some stories are skipped due to rights issues.

[frank_one]

Originally Posted by LeoNerdo

Another nice Dooney cover.

True, nice drawing. What I'm not able to appreciate are the backgrounds they are using for the covers of these books..

[Metropoliskid41]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

They're collecting Volume 1 in order, (excluding the issues in the Ultimate Collections, which are getting single color releases anyway), but some stories are skipped due to rights issues.

What rights issues would they have to overcome? I don't have all of Mirage vol. 1 so I'm curious what characters would guest appear in those issues that collecting and reprinting them would be a no-no? They got the issue with Cerebus in there, I thought that'd be their biggest hang-up.

[John Pannozzi]

Originally Posted by Metropoliskid41

What rights issues would they have to overcome? I don't have all of Mirage vol. 1 so I'm curious what characters would guest appear in those issues that collecting and reprinting them would be a no-no? They got the issue with Cerebus in there, I thought that'd be their biggest hang-up.

Rick Veitch never signed away the rights to his TMNT work (#24-26, 30 and the Casey Jones mini-series), nor did Paul Jenkins when he wrote #43 (but A.C. Farley, who illustrated that issue, did). There's also the fact that Rick Arthur owns Lucindra and the other characters he introduced in #44, but his deal with Mirage meant that they did not have to get his permission to reprint it, but neither does Dave Sim with the Cerebus crossover, so IDW will probably cut him a check.

The reason #18 has yet to be collected has nothing to do with rights issues (as it was recently collected in Eastman's 25th ann. TMNT book).

As for issues with guest character appearances, I know in #41, Matt Howarth's Those Annoying Post Bros. appear, and Michael Dooney's Fluffy Brockleton appears in one panel of #47.

[Chris]

I believe there's an issue with reprinting Veitch's work, but other than that I think everything else is fair game.

So far the skipped list is;

Vol. 1 #18 - The Shell of the Dragon
Vol. 1 #24-26 - The River Parts 1-3
Vol. 1 #30 - Sky Highway
Vol. 1 #31 - Souls Winter

I can understand why they skipped 18 from the Ultimate collections, but no idea why it's not be included in the Classics collections. I thought they'd put it with 32 but looking at Vol. 4 that doesn't seem to be the case, so it's officially MIA.

24-26 and 30 are all Veitch, so no go at the moment, hope they can sort out a way to release them in the future.

31 is the start of Zulli's Soul trilogy so I'm expecting that will be collected in Classics Vol. 5 with 35+36, so I'm not willing to say it's definitely been skipped just yet...

[Jephael]

This is why I'd rather shop online for the original issues that were published and released by Mirage back in the day. With these collected re-releases we only get to see certain stories.

[Xav]

Originally Posted by Chris

I can understand why they skipped 18 from the Ultimate collections, but no idea why it's not be included in the Classics collections. I thought they'd put it with 32 but looking at Vol. 4 that doesn't seem to be the case, so it's officially MIA.

How do you know 18 isn't in this? It doesn't list what issues are in it.

[Chris]

For certain? I don't. Like John I'm assuming this is 32-34 based on the credits. I'd love it to be 18, 32-34 but the Classics have been 3 issues at most so far, and 32-34 makes more sense than 18, 33-34.

[sdp]

For casual TMNT fans this is becoming really confusing, there's way too many things IDW is printing and i've completely lost track over what I really need to get. All I really want is consistency.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by sdp

For casual TMNT fans this is becoming really confusing, there's way too many things IDW is printing and i've completely lost track over what I really need to get. All I really want is consistency.

Its not that difficult. Ultimate Collections only collect Eastman/Laird issues. The Classic collections collect all the other Volume 1 issues.

Also simply just by looking at the Adventures collections everyone knows that's the Archie series and a totally seperate thing.

Then there's IDW's TPB's of the current new series, again, made obvious just by looking at it.

[Tuxedo Moroboshi]

Originally Posted by Chris

Vol. 1 #24-26 - The River Parts 1-3

That... actually makes me incredibly sad. That's one of my most favorite storylines.

[frank_one]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Its not that difficult. Ultimate Collections only collect Eastman/Laird issues. The Classic collections collect all the other Volume 1 issues.

Also simply just by looking at the Adventures collections everyone knows that's the Archie series and a totally seperate thing.

Then there's IDW's TPB's of the current new series, again, made obvious just by looking at it.

They are currently publishing:
- Teenage mutant ninja turtles (IDW ongoing series)
- Teenage mutant ninja turtles: Secret history of the Foot clan (a new micro-series of the ongoing comics)
- Teenage mutant ninja turtles vol. .. (Trades collecting 4 issues of the ongoing series)
- Teenage mutant ninja turtles Ultimate collection (Books reprinting the original b/w series)
- Teenage mutant ninja turtles Classics (Trades collecting colored version of issues not included in the Ultimate collection)
- Teenage mutant ninja turtles Color Classics (Trades reprinting colored single issues of the original b/w series)
- Teenage mutant ninja turtles Adventures (Trades reprinting the Archie' series)
- Tales of the Teenage mutant ninja turtles (Trades reprinting the original "Tales of.." series, coming in November)

Actually, it is something NOT so easy to follow! And, well, not considering that almost all these are getting two or more variant covers!

[LeoNerdo]

I saw this today for Classics Vol. 5:
http://www.amazon.com/Teenage-Mutant...rtles+classics

More Classic Turtles! Volume 5 contains issues #37-40, which includes the tale "Twilight Of The Ring" and the three-part story "Spaced Out," all in beautiful, new color!

So they are skipping Zulli now too? I'm not sure if I want to continue collecting these. They are skipping so many issues now, and I have no taste for McWeeney issues anyways.

[John Pannozzi]

I'm guessing that they're saving Zulli's stuff for their own book, whether it's part of the Classics line or not.

I hope they include the the Ring short story from Turtle Soup (vol. 2) #1, as its a prelude to #37.

[Chris]

Can't believe they're skipping Zulli's arc! Hopefully he'll get his own collection later (same for Veitch's stuff).

But the move to 4 issues is good. Maybe there is some hope for 18 in Vol. 4 after all...