Best Leatherhead debut episode?

[ToTheNines]

Oh yeah yeah, it definitely happened in the 4kids show, I just don't think the Nickelodeon crew got it from that. I could be wrong though.

[Jester]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Oh yeah yeah, it definitely happened in the 4kids show, I just don't think the Nickelodeon crew got it from that. I could be wrong though.

Oh...I see.

If they didn't borrow it from the 4Kids series, then it seems odd they'd both use that same device to show that LH is losing control.

[ToTheNines]

Not really. Real gators and crocs have that extra lid for when they swim, so it's just a cool effect that the animators can play with that makes real-world anatomical sense.

[zkarlette]

I love this version of leatherhead he has really badass moments but at the same time I still can't get over on how cute he looked when Mike was feeding him soup.

[Jester]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Not really. Real gators and crocs have that extra lid for when they swim, so it's just a cool effect that the animators can play with that makes real-world anatomical sense.

Goes to show how little I know about reptile biology.

[Lampy]

^ that is cool!

by the way... do their outter lids close? i know snakes don't blink. but is it the same for gators and crocs?

[Candy Kappa]

I loved It came form the Depths, Leatherhead was great

[MrTMNT2012]

'Terror of the Swamps' and 'It Came from the Depths' were both great.

But 'What a Croc!' is just a whole other level of awesomeness! I mean we had Baxter Stockman, Metalhead and Leatherhead ALL in the same Episode. And the Turtles fought all of them, which was the icing on the cake.

[VaughnMichael]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I just rewatched the 4kids episode, I can't believe how similar Leatherhead's personality is between it and the Nick version. Even his voice actor sounds the same.

I felt the same exact way watching the new episode but I liked it a lot and it gets my vote.

[Oculus Orbus]

"It Came from the Depths" for me. This show doesn't cease to amaze me.

[LH]

While we're on the subject of eyes, isn't it cool how Leatherehead's "Rage" eyes have a white out appearance so they match the turtles? I think it would be awesome to one day see a battle pose with all of them in their "white eye modes". Judging by the end scene, it looks as though he has gained slightly more control over it.

[FoxZerro]

No doubt the Nick entry, it just felt like a true Leatherhead episode. The other two had so much going on in them. Punk Frogs and Turtlebots and whatnot that he kind of lost the focus. Plus I liked how they adapted the Transmat stuff to the Kraang and it being a portal

[Zulithe]

Nick. Not only beset Leatherhead intro to-date, but best TMNT animated series overall to-date (I grew up watching the OT and loved it then, but this is way better!)

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by FoxZerro

No doubt the Nick entry, it just felt like a true Leatherhead episode. The other two had so much going on in them. Punk Frogs and Turtlebots and whatnot that he kind of lost the focus. Plus I liked how they adapted the Transmat stuff to the Kraang and it being a portal

Yeah, but the Nick ep spent most of it fighting the Kraang too, so its not like it was all Leatherhead either even if they were connected to his backstory. I saw no problem with involving the Punk Frogs or Baxter/Turtlebot in the previous episodes.

If anything its funny how Krang's/Utroms/The Kraang's accidental mutagen mutates him in all 3 versions.

In the OT it was the leftover mutagen of Krang's that they used on the Punk Frogs that also transformed Leatherhead.

[zkarlette]

Originally Posted by Zulithe

Nick. Not only beset Leatherhead intro to-date, but best TMNT animated series overall to-date (I grew up watching the OT and loved it then, but this is way better!)

I was sort of thinking something similar the other day..

[CyberCubed]

The Nick cartoon may be great so far, but we don't know if it'll dip in quality as it progresses. Look at the 4kids series for a good example of a show that was stronger in its early seasons than the later ones.

[zkarlette]

I know.. that's why I said I thought about it, not that I was certain.

[Matches Malone]

Originally Posted by FoxZerro

No doubt the Nick entry, it just felt like a true Leatherhead episode. The other two had so much going on in them. Punk Frogs and Turtlebots and whatnot that he kind of lost the focus. Plus I liked how they adapted the Transmat stuff to the Kraang and it being a portal

Completely agree. While I personally like the 2K3 episode better because of the action and can't get enough of that awesome looking Turtlebot, as a debut for Leatherhead, the Nick episode is definitely better. Baxter Stockman kind of steals the episode once he's revealed and there isn't much more development for LH beyond him sacrificing himself at the end. Sure, the Kraang are in the Nick episode, but it is still focused around LH's struggle against them and Baxter is furthering a different plot point (not that there is anything wrong with that, it just doesn't contribute to LH's story).

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

The Nick cartoon may be great so far, but we don't know if it'll dip in quality as it progresses. Look at the 4kids series for a good example of a show that was stronger in its early seasons than the later ones.

We also don't know if it'll get better too. You can look at other shows for examples of any point you want to make, so may as well focus on thinking positive. You'll be happier that way

[FoxZerro]

Originally Posted by Matches Malone

Completely agree. While I personally like the 2K3 episode better because of the action and can't get enough of that awesome looking Turtlebot, as a debut for Leatherhead, the Nick episode is definitely better. Baxter Stockman kind of steals the episode once he's revealed and there isn't much more development for LH beyond him sacrificing himself at the end. Sure, the Kraang are in the Nick episode, but it is still focused around LH's struggle against them and Baxter is furthering a different plot point (not that there is anything wrong with that, it just doesn't contribute to LH's story).

Exactly, the Kraang are overall a very light on any sort of personality, which means that you can have them act as villian fodder in an episode without them taking away from the story, since they don't really bring anything to the table accept for conflict. Not to mention the fact that they created him and he hates them and will fight against them means adding the Kraang actually increased the development of Leatherhead.

Besides saying that the kraang drew focus from Leatherhead in the Nick episode would be like saying the Robotic Foot Soldiers from the OT drew focus from something. Since both are just the bad guys that the turtles can kill without fear of reprieve from Parent Watchdog Groups

[CyberCubed]

The Turtlebot fight only took about 5 minutes of screentime anyway, the fight was extremely short. I just wish they called the robot, "Metalhead" even though the name already belonged to the Justice Force character.