Bay talks some TMNT - Page 3

*Galactus* · 04-26-2013, 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Powder

Maybe if you guys could learn to take each universe as its own thing instead of making comparisons all the time, you'd be less disappointed.

When a new iteration of an established property comes out its naturaly going to draw comparisons to the previous iterations.

I also think its more than fair to say that with any franchise there are elements which are intrinsic to it. You can bend them, twist them, alter them but there very definite point were it ceases to truly be the property fans love and is something else entirely.

It is also very fair to point out even if we accept drastic changes to the core concept it doesn't mean we still don't judge the quality and you can't stop fans looking at who is involved as well as available information and make judgements about that.

*Cure* · 04-26-2013, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Galactus

It is also very fair to point out even if we accept drastic changes to the core concept it doesn't mean we still don't judge the quality and you can't stop fans looking at who is involved as well as available information and make judgements about that.

No, actually, that's the opposite of fair. What would be fair would be to wait and see the final product before passing any judgment.

Of course, that's too much to ask for for some people.

*BubblyShell22* · 04-26-2013, 02:40 PM

I think the designs will be cool, but we'll have to wait and see what comes of it.

zak_the_neutrino · 04-26-2013, 02:44 PM

A reboot is a reboot for a reason. I've been a fan 25 years and I can give 2 ***** about the "Core" of what the old turtles use to be. That's the past. I can't wait to see this film and I support this film 100%. I'm not going to pass bad judgment on it because I'm not expecting a early 90s tmnt. I'm expecting a gritty new look to the franchise which I will welcome.

*chrisdude* · 04-26-2013, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by zak_the_neutrino

A reboot is a reboot for a reason. I've been a fan 25 years and I can give 2 ***** about the "Core" of what the old turtles use to be. That's the past. I can't wait to see this film and I support this film 100%. I'm not going to pass bad judgment on it because I'm not expecting a early 90s tmnt. I'm expecting a gritty new look to the franchise which I will welcome.

I consider myself to have pretty open mind about this stuff. But surely there are actual reasons why you like TMNT. There's something there that makes you a fan. And if that stuff were removed, you wouldn't like this movie.

What the heck is it, and how are you so sure it will be preserved? Cause you don't seem to care about anything.

zodiac brave · 04-26-2013, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by zak_the_neutrino

I'm expecting a gritty new look to the franchise which I will welcome.

why? everything thats going on with this flick is proving to be the opposite of this.

*Cure* · 04-26-2013, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by chrisdude

I consider myself to have pretty open mind about this stuff. But surely there are actual reasons why you like TMNT. There's something there that makes you a fan. And if that stuff were removed, you wouldn't like this movie.

What the heck is it, and how are you so sure it will be preserved? Cause you don't seem to care about anything.

I dunno about him, but for me, it's four Ninja Turtles goofing off and fighting bad guys. Pretty hard to mess that up.

*Powder* · 04-26-2013, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Cure

Pretty hard to mess that up.

While I don't disagree, some would argue that due to The Next Mutation & such...

*Galactus* · 04-27-2013, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Cure

No, actually, that's the opposite of fair. What would be fair would be to wait and see the final product before passing any judgment.

Of course, that's too much to ask for for some people.

I guess we'll have to disagree on what is fair in this context. Certainly how you describe it is not how people tend to operate. It's human nature to weigh up available evidence and form an opinion.

It's not like the TMNT fandom is so firm with this its unfair. Plenty of fans didn't care for the idea of the Nickleodeon show until we got some designs and details about the story and the vibe they were aiming for, some fans were invited to watch test pilot (and give feedback) and we got clips of unfinished animation and a lot of people felt better about it. We've got practicaly nothing to base this movie on beyond that leaked script, casting choices and the reputations of the creators.

I doubt you'd be advocating a "wait and see" attitude if we were taking all this and saying "wow this all sounds great"

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Originally Posted by zak_the_neutrino

I'm expecting a gritty new look to the franchise which I will welcome.

If that were true I don't think many would have problem but...what on earth makes you think that?

*Cure* · 04-28-2013, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Galactus

I doubt you'd be advocating a "wait and see" attitude if we were taking all this and saying "wow this all sounds great"

No, actually, I would, so stop acting like you know what you're speaking about. You might not understand how neutrality works.

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