TMNT 2007: Leo vs Raph: Who's Really better?

TMNT101 · 06-13-2013, 06:23 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpLM34dIrDU
First off, I'm equally a fan of Leonardo and Raphael. After watching this, it questions who is truly better. I mean, Raphael had Leonardo pinned down at the end of the fight. However, if you watch it, Leonardo kicks Raphael by the edge of the roof and lunges with his sword, nearly stabbing Raphael. Now, Leo could easily have slashed to the left and killed Raphael. But with the context of Leo not wanting to fight Raphael, he pulled his sword back instead. Some may say I'm speculating too much into it, so I'll ask. Who is proven to be truly better?

*snake* · 06-13-2013, 06:34 PM

Neither. I didn't like the 2007 movie much, so I can't pick one.

TMNT101 · 06-13-2013, 06:37 PM

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Neither. I didn't like the 2007 movie much, so I can't pick one.

I don't watch it a lot. But, I don't mind watching Leonardo & Raphael beating each other up, going all Alpha Turtle on each other.

*snake* · 06-13-2013, 06:43 PM

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I don't watch it a lot. But, I don't mind watching Leonardo & Raphael beating each other up, going all Alpha Turtle on each other.

I liked the battle, that's about all I liked in the movie. Oh yeah! And I liked Bigfoot

It should've had more focus on Mikey and Don. But I think that even Leo and Raph, that turtles who got the most screen time, didn't have much personality.

( other then the regular stuff, Raph= angry, Leo= leader, serious, Mikey= jokester, Don= Techguy)

TMNT101 · 06-13-2013, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by snakeweed101

I liked the battle, that's about all I liked in the movie. Oh yeah! And I liked Bigfoot

It should've had more focus on Mikey and Don. But I think that even Leo and Raph, that turtles who got the most screen time, didn't have much personality.

( other then the regular stuff, Raph= angry, Leo= leader, serious, Mikey= jokester, Don= Techguy)

Yeah, this flick was all about Leo & Raph. They should've had Don in love with April and have him & Casey compete for her love. LOL

*snake* · 06-13-2013, 06:52 PM

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Yeah, this flick was all about Leo & Raph. They should've had Don in love with April and have him & Casey compete for her love. LOL

Still better then the Stone Warriors and Max Winters! But honestly, I'd love for the film to pick up where Turtles 3 left off as a live action film, not set in its own universe and animated.

Bmaga123 · 06-13-2013, 06:54 PM

Hard to really compare in this fight since they are using different weapons. One would think 2 katana's would give a huge advantage to Leonardo. The only way would be a fight in hand to hand combat with no weapons. I voted Raphael because he is my favorite turtle

TMNT101 · 06-13-2013, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Bmaga123

Hard to really compare in this fight since they are using different weapons. One would think 2 katana's would give a huge advantage to Leonardo. The only way would be a fight in hand to hand combat with no weapons. I voted Raphael because he is my favorite turtle

Well, they did fight hand to hand prior to using weapons and Leo beat Raph in that part. Click the link in the top post and it has the chase, the fist fight and the weapons fight.

*snake* · 06-13-2013, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Bmaga123

Hard to really compare in this fight since they are using different weapons. One would think 2 katana's would give a huge advantage to Leonardo. The only way would be a fight in hand to hand combat with no weapons. I voted Raphael because he is my favorite turtle

You forgot the nightwatcher gear, giving Raph a defensive advantage.

TMNT101 · 06-13-2013, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by snakeweed101

Still better then the Stone Warriors and Max Winters! But honestly, I'd love for the film to pick up where Turtles 3 left off as a live action film, not set in its own universe and animated.

I never got to see Turtles 2 or 3. I just saw the 1st live action Turtles movie a couple weeks ago.

*snake* · 06-13-2013, 07:05 PM

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I never got to see Turtles 2 or 3. I just saw the 1st live action Turtles movie a couple weeks ago.

The next two are more lighthearted, but when you see all three you'll have the same opinion as me.

Did you like the first one?

*Bauer536* · 06-13-2013, 07:08 PM

As far as fighting goes, it's Raphael. However, with self-control and levelheadedness, it's Leonardo. I chose Leo because he really said "I'm better than you" as a responsible brother, not as a ninja. That's how I look at it. Either that, or it's what FearlessLeader pointed out - Leo was heartbroken after Raph told him that the turtles were fine without him. I liked the movie, but this talk about who's better sometimes gets on my nerves. Who cares? They're all leaders in their own way.

*snake* · 06-13-2013, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Bauer536

As far as fighting goes, it's Raphael. However, with self-control and levelheadedness, it's Leonardo. I chose Leo because he really said "I'm better than you" as a responsible brother, not as a ninja. That's how I look at it. Either that, or it's what FearlessLeader pointed out - Leo was heartbroken after Raph told him that the turtles were fine without him. I liked the movie, but this talk about who's better sometimes gets on my nerves. Who cares? They're all leaders in their own way.

I'd vote for Leo anyway, he didn't start the fight anyway.

TMNT101 · 06-13-2013, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by snakeweed101

The next two are more lighthearted, but when you see all three you'll have the same opinion as me.

Did you like the first one?

Yeah, I did like the first one. I figured the next two movies weren't as serious. I watched Screwattack's Death Battle with the Ninja Turtles in a 4 Turtle free for all and it showed a clip of Mikey throwing a large piece of stone like a Frisbee. I'm guessing that's from The third movie?

TMNT101 · 06-13-2013, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Bauer536

As far as fighting goes, it's Raphael. However, with self-control and levelheadedness, it's Leonardo. I chose Leo because he really said "I'm better than you" as a responsible brother, not as a ninja. That's how I look at it. Either that, or it's what FearlessLeader pointed out - Leo was heartbroken after Raph told him that the turtles were fine without him. I liked the movie, but this talk about who's better sometimes gets on my nerves. Who cares? They're all leaders in their own way.

I only look at who's better very rarely. I typically don't care in the big picture. It's just one of those little side things to do to add variety to the topic of Ninja Turtles. All done for curiosity purposes in terms of opinions. I understand about annoyance from those who obsess about who's better.

InsaneZane · 06-13-2013, 07:42 PM

search up Ninja turtles death battle on you tube, it explains exactly why Leo would've won if he wanted to in the 2007 fight

*snake* · 06-13-2013, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by InsaneZane

search up Ninja turtles death battle on you tube, it explains exactly why Leo would've won if he wanted to in the 2007 fight

Leo DEFINATLY would've won, but he has to much restraint and couldn't hurt his own brother.

*Refractive Reflections* · 06-13-2013, 07:58 PM

For this 2007 movie, Leonardo would have most probably won because he has a cooler head in fighting, and could out-wit Raphael. Yes, Raphael could easily beat up Leonardo in a strength contest (which is why the katanas broke), but since Leonardo is able to not let his emotions overtake him, he's able to easily see the "whole picture" and its possibilities/solutions in the fight/battle. Raphael's intense emotions gives him more of a restrictive "tunnel vision" in trying to destroy whatever it is that's in front of him.

shredderhead · 06-13-2013, 08:16 PM

It´s difficult to say who´s better than the others really... Everyone of them (including mickey and don) has it´s own advantages... To be true I think Raph, Leo, Mickey or Don have the potential to be the better fighter. You may say that this is the easier answer, but for example.. Raph is the strongest of his brothers and takes his fury to a battle, making him even more fearless and on the other hand Leo is extreme devoted to ninjitsu what makes him mentally strong and a very good fighter too...
I disagree when you say that Leo didn´t brought all he got into the fight, because if so he wouldn´t have charged raph, like raph did too (just a thought)..
And the part you say Leo could slice raph, personally I think that´s impossible because TMNT is not the heads off style or blood style xD, so if he tried to do so, raph would have dodge it

(kidding but true)..
To finish, if I had to bet in the winner I would say Raph, because in that fight they were both mess up mentally and that´s kind of raph´s world..

Shred87 · 06-13-2013, 09:55 PM

I just watched the death battle YouTube video, what is the video game they keep flashing to? Is that the sega version of turtles in time?

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06-13-2013, 06:23 PM	#1
TMNT101 Mouser Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 14	TMNT 2007: Leo vs Raph: Who's Really better? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpLM34dIrDU First off, I'm equally a fan of Leonardo and Raphael. After watching this, it questions who is truly better. I mean, Raphael had Leonardo pinned down at the end of the fight. However, if you watch it, Leonardo kicks Raphael by the edge of the roof and lunges with his sword, nearly stabbing Raphael. Now, Leo could easily have slashed to the left and killed Raphael. But with the context of Leo not wanting to fight Raphael, he pulled his sword back instead. Some may say I'm speculating too much into it, so I'll ask. Who is proven to be truly better?

06-13-2013, 07:42 PM	#16
InsaneZane Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2003 Location: Silent Hill Posts: 1,198	search up Ninja turtles death battle on you tube, it explains exactly why Leo would've won if he wanted to in the 2007 fight __________________

06-13-2013, 07:58 PM	#18
Refractive Reflections Mad Scientist $Refractive Reflections's Avatar$ Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 2,371	For this 2007 movie, Leonardo would have most probably won because he has a cooler head in fighting, and could out-wit Raphael. Yes, Raphael could easily beat up Leonardo in a strength contest (which is why the katanas broke), but since Leonardo is able to not let his emotions overtake him, he's able to easily see the "whole picture" and its possibilities/solutions in the fight/battle. Raphael's intense emotions gives him more of a restrictive "tunnel vision" in trying to destroy whatever it is that's in front of him.
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06-13-2013, 09:55 PM	#20
Shred87 Hench Mutant Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 467	I just watched the death battle YouTube video, what is the video game they keep flashing to? Is that the sega version of turtles in time? Last edited by Shred87; 06-13-2013 at 10:01 PM.

06-13-2013, 06:34 PM	#2
snake Disgusting Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Outer Heaven Posts: 12,231	Neither. I didn't like the 2007 movie much, so I can't pick one.

06-13-2013, 06:54 PM	#7
Bmaga123 Stone Warrior Join Date: May 2006 Location: WA Posts: 861	Hard to really compare in this fight since they are using different weapons. One would think 2 katana's would give a huge advantage to Leonardo. The only way would be a fight in hand to hand combat with no weapons. I voted Raphael because he is my favorite turtle

06-13-2013, 07:08 PM	#12
Bauer536 Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2011 Location: United States Posts: 1,550	As far as fighting goes, it's Raphael. However, with self-control and levelheadedness, it's Leonardo. I chose Leo because he really said "I'm better than you" as a responsible brother, not as a ninja. That's how I look at it. Either that, or it's what FearlessLeader pointed out - Leo was heartbroken after Raph told him that the turtles were fine without him. I liked the movie, but this talk about who's better sometimes gets on my nerves. Who cares? They're all leaders in their own way.

06-13-2013, 08:16 PM	#19
shredderhead Random Punk Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Portugal Posts: 32	It´s difficult to say who´s better than the others really... Everyone of them (including mickey and don) has it´s own advantages... To be true I think Raph, Leo, Mickey or Don have the potential to be the better fighter. You may say that this is the easier answer, but for example.. Raph is the strongest of his brothers and takes his fury to a battle, making him even more fearless and on the other hand Leo is extreme devoted to ninjitsu what makes him mentally strong and a very good fighter too... I disagree when you say that Leo didn´t brought all he got into the fight, because if so he wouldn´t have charged raph, like raph did too (just a thought).. And the part you say Leo could slice raph, personally I think that´s impossible because TMNT is not the heads off style or blood style xD, so if he tried to do so, raph would have dodge it (kidding but true).. To finish, if I had to bet in the winner I would say Raph, because in that fight they were both mess up mentally and that´s kind of raph´s world..