Teenage Turtles

Leo2k3 · 08-13-2013, 12:49 AM

Something has been bugging me about the Nick series so far. I want to know what in this series makes the turtles seem more approachable, by them being teenagers? I know its a kids show, but would kids care about the teenage part so much? So far I believe the show has the turtles personalities clashing with one another, which fuels the brothers aspect. Sometimes family members do not agree and they bicker, that part feels natural.

Since the turtles have been underground and not raised in a "traditional" manner, how would they behave if the only "people" they had contact with is Splinter and each other? I only ask because some other shows I have watched have teen characters behaving slightly differently. I think The Last Air bender characters ages were around 14 and 15. Ben 10 Alien Force, Ben is 15, and he doesn't behave quite like the turtles. Peter Parker, in Spectacular Spider-Man is another teenage super hero. Robin during the first season of Young Justice, I think was also a young teen.

The turtles don't go to school, they don't have to deal with society like other young humans would have to. They also don't have any of the normal trappings of teen hero kids' shows. The part of the appeal of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, is that they are mutant Ninjas. Have the turtles lost something by trying to be closer to young teens? If anything I think it would be cool to be part of a underground fighting group with no school, papers, homework, jobs, or responsibilities that normal teenagers have to put up with. What I am trying to say is what teenage aspects are part of this nick show?

Anyway, any thoughts or comments? Did the turtles loose some of the Mutant Ninja, or they still the same turtles that everyone knows and loves?

*BabyTurtles* · 08-13-2013, 01:24 AM

of course they are still mutant ninjas!! They are ninjas! and they are mutant!!

sure they are teens, but they still don't know how to act in normal society.
they are sheltered teens.

...I guess I'm kinda confused about your question a little??

so do you have a problem with them being teens?? or IDK? I'm confused. XDD

Leo2k3 · 08-13-2013, 02:08 AM

I apologize for the confusion. I guess what I am trying to say is I don't see anything in this first season that points to them behaving like teens. I see the brotherly banter, but no teen issues. If they are there, I didn't notice them.

I also want to point out that, as mentioned before, Other kids television shows, have teenagers that act differently, like Peter Parker( Spectacular Spider-Man) or Robin in the first season of Young Justice. I guess, I feel the teenage aspect is holding the Mutant Ninja aspect back slightly.

Again I apologize for the confusion, and I hope this addresses the slight issue I have with this particular interpretation.

*BabyTurtles* · 08-13-2013, 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Leo2k3

I apologize for the confusion. I guess what I am trying to say is I don't see anything in this first season that points to them behaving like teens. I see the brotherly banter, but no teen issues. If they are there, I didn't notice them.

I also want to point out that, as mentioned before, Other kids television shows, have teenagers that act differently, like Peter Parker( Spectacular Spider-Man) or Robin in the first season of Young Justice. I guess, I feel the teenage aspect is holding the Mutant Ninja aspect back slightly.

Again I apologize for the confusion, and I hope this addresses the slight issue I have with this particular interpretation.

ooooooh! I get it~ :3

well they watch a bunch of TV that's pretty much half of it I'm sure XD

they live in the sewer and only have limited things to entertain themselves XD do you know how much TV shows they probably watched!? XD LOL that could have influenced their teen behavior. (music also)

getting on each others nerves could get them acting like teens also. " why me" " no one understands me" blah blah blah XD

Grimlock · 08-13-2013, 08:22 AM

They dont act enough like teens?

Donnie crushing in April.
Leo showing off for Karai.
Mikey using all kinds of modern slang.
All 4 getting over confident after winning a few fights, showing their imaturity.

I mean, do you want them to have pimples and cry in their room? Not everyone is like that in their teenage years.

**Jester** · 08-13-2013, 08:44 AM

I say it's about time. The Mutant Ninja has always been more prominent than the Teenage. Like we've mentioned before this series is probably the first time the Turtles actually felt Teenaged.

*BubblyShell22* · 08-13-2013, 09:21 AM

There have been a lot of instances where the Turtles act like teenagers in this show. Mikey trying to befriend someone on the Internet is a big reference to how teenagers can be naive and do the same thing, imparting a lesson that not everyone on the Internet is who they seem. They also watch TV, listen to music, play arcade games, and act overconfident at times like they're ready to face everything, yet they're still learning. They definitely act younger, and that's what I like about this show.

*Luckyday* · 08-13-2013, 09:46 AM

Well to be fair, the 2k3 series had the turtles riding on their skateboards or sport equipment that one time.

*snake* · 08-13-2013, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Grimlock

They dont act enough like teens?

Donnie crushing in April.
Leo showing off for Karai.
Mikey using all kinds of modern slang.
All 4 getting over confident after winning a few fights, showing their imaturity.

I mean, do you want them to have pimples and cry in their room? Not everyone is like that in their teenage years.

"Crushing in April"

in April? BWAHAHAHAHA

pingclang · 08-13-2013, 11:19 AM

These are teenagers who aren't exposed to the same things as we are, so I'm sure it's different for them. I do wish at least one of them would be upset about how they are "freaks" to people. They touched on it but not much. I just don't see them having so many issues like a kid in school, dealing with everyone around them and trying to figure out who they are when they're highly trained ninja given focus through martial arts.

*Luckyday* · 08-13-2013, 12:43 PM

Not too long ago, I had a idea of being Irma a high school teacher and in some event of fashion she needed a place thus end up living with the turtles. When after living them for some time she starts realizing that each turtle would greatly benefit from a home school education but not because they need it but they have some huge potential within them. Unsurprisingly, most turtles (except Donnie) are resisted to the idea with most of the outcry coming from Raph, but slowly each turtle becoming curious with the one of subjects that appeal to them in certain way and Raph becomes the odd man out. Being the stubborn one, Raph continues to refuse any sort of home school education until Raph admits to Irma that he is afraid of looking stupid which problem most teenagers deal with. With some encouragement from Irma, Raph final join the class.

Now the only problem making a episode like this is trying to not make look like a after school special or a public acconcement.

Grimlock · 08-13-2013, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by snakeweed101

"Crushing in April"

in April? BWAHAHAHAHA

You are a teenager, no?

*TurtleTitan97* · 08-13-2013, 01:35 PM

I disagree with your statement, Leo2k3. I love the fact the turtles act like teenagers in this series. They haven't "lost" anything to begin with.

*Electric* · 08-13-2013, 01:43 PM

i like them acting like teens, it gives them more depth, and room for development, where as 2k3 tmnt, the characters had their traits and personalities and knew who they were, and it wasnt as interesting

LivingMutagen · 08-13-2013, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Grimlock

You are a teenager, no?

You are a no-nonsense guy, no?

*Electric* · 08-13-2013, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Grimlock

You are a teenager, no?

please. are you seriously going to act like there arent adults who would say that?

*Refractive Reflections* · 08-13-2013, 05:39 PM

These Nick Turtles are probably more teenagerish than I would expect with crime-fighters, and not always in the best way (i.e. the Turtles' lack of sympathy for Timothy in "The Pulverizer Returns" episode). But as I mentioned before in previous threads, these instances can be used to show how dramatically the Nick Turtles will mature through subsequent seasons. Also I have to consider that these Nick Turtles were sheltered from the outside world for nearly 15 years, so... **shrug**

I could tolerate and accept the OT and 2K3 Turtles as being teenagers (excluding the voices though), because I assumed that their brutal fighting experiences in the past had matured them at a much faster rate than other teenagers at that age. It's because I had a few friends who grew up in the crime-rampant inner city who were teenagers, in which their experiences forced them to mature leaps ahead than their more sheltered, secured peers residing in the middle-class/affluent suburbs.

*BabyTurtles* · 08-13-2013, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by JYX

I could tolerate and accept the OT and 2K3 Turtles as being teenagers (excluding the voices though), because I assumed that their brutal fighting experiences in the past had matured them at a much faster rate than other teenagers at that age. It's because I had a few friends who grew up in the crime-rampant inner city who were teenagers, in which their experiences forced them to mature leaps ahead than their more sheltered, secured peers residing in the middle-class/affluent suburbs.

well the Nick turtles were never allowed to leave the sewers until they were 15
.....they weren't forced to mature because they didn't have any brutal experiences yet XD they weren't fighting crime until recently.

Grimlock · 08-13-2013, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ElectricN

please. are you seriously going to act like there arent adults who would say that?

I'm sure there are. But not me, guy.

*PApagreg* · 08-13-2013, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by JYX

These Nick Turtles are probably more teenagerish than I would expect with crime-fighters, and not always in the best way (i.e. the Turtles' lack of sympathy for Timothy in "The Pulverizer Returns" episode). But as I mentioned before in previous threads, these instances can be used to show how dramatically the Nick Turtles will mature through subsequent seasons. Also I have to consider that these Nick Turtles were sheltered from the outside world for nearly 15 years, so... **shrug**

I could tolerate and accept the OT and 2K3 Turtles as being teenagers (excluding the voices though), because I assumed that their brutal fighting experiences in the past had matured them at a much faster rate than other teenagers at that age. It's because I had a few friends who grew up in the crime-rampant inner city who were teenagers, in which their experiences forced them to mature leaps ahead than their more sheltered, secured peers residing in the middle-class/affluent suburbs.

No offense but we didn't see much of their childhoods but they were pretty sheltered, not as sheltered as 2012 turtles but still sheltered, they weren't allowed to go up until adolescence like the 2012 also what do you mean by brutal fighting, I feel like you make the turtles more tragic and brutal than they already are

08-13-2013, 12:49 AM	#1
Leo2k3 Random Punk Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 29	Teenage Turtles Something has been bugging me about the Nick series so far. I want to know what in this series makes the turtles seem more approachable, by them being teenagers? I know its a kids show, but would kids care about the teenage part so much? So far I believe the show has the turtles personalities clashing with one another, which fuels the brothers aspect. Sometimes family members do not agree and they bicker, that part feels natural. Since the turtles have been underground and not raised in a "traditional" manner, how would they behave if the only "people" they had contact with is Splinter and each other? I only ask because some other shows I have watched have teen characters behaving slightly differently. I think The Last Air bender characters ages were around 14 and 15. Ben 10 Alien Force, Ben is 15, and he doesn't behave quite like the turtles. Peter Parker, in Spectacular Spider-Man is another teenage super hero. Robin during the first season of Young Justice, I think was also a young teen. The turtles don't go to school, they don't have to deal with society like other young humans would have to. They also don't have any of the normal trappings of teen hero kids' shows. The part of the appeal of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, is that they are mutant Ninjas. Have the turtles lost something by trying to be closer to young teens? If anything I think it would be cool to be part of a underground fighting group with no school, papers, homework, jobs, or responsibilities that normal teenagers have to put up with. What I am trying to say is what teenage aspects are part of this nick show? Anyway, any thoughts or comments? Did the turtles loose some of the Mutant Ninja, or they still the same turtles that everyone knows and loves? __________________ Long Live the Turtles!

08-13-2013, 01:24 AM	#2
BabyTurtles Foot Elite Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 4,177	of course they are still mutant ninjas!! They are ninjas! and they are mutant!! sure they are teens, but they still don't know how to act in normal society. they are sheltered teens. ...I guess I'm kinda confused about your question a little?? so do you have a problem with them being teens?? or IDK? I'm confused. XDD __________________

08-13-2013, 02:08 AM	#3
Leo2k3 Random Punk Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 29	I apologize for the confusion. I guess what I am trying to say is I don't see anything in this first season that points to them behaving like teens. I see the brotherly banter, but no teen issues. If they are there, I didn't notice them. I also want to point out that, as mentioned before, Other kids television shows, have teenagers that act differently, like Peter Parker( Spectacular Spider-Man) or Robin in the first season of Young Justice. I guess, I feel the teenage aspect is holding the Mutant Ninja aspect back slightly. Again I apologize for the confusion, and I hope this addresses the slight issue I have with this particular interpretation. __________________ Long Live the Turtles!

08-13-2013, 08:44 AM	#6
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,300	I say it's about time. The Mutant Ninja has always been more prominent than the Teenage. Like we've mentioned before this series is probably the first time the Turtles actually felt Teenaged. __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

08-13-2013, 09:21 AM	#7
BubblyShell22 Leo-holic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 16,912	There have been a lot of instances where the Turtles act like teenagers in this show. Mikey trying to befriend someone on the Internet is a big reference to how teenagers can be naive and do the same thing, imparting a lesson that not everyone on the Internet is who they seem. They also watch TV, listen to music, play arcade games, and act overconfident at times like they're ready to face everything, yet they're still learning. They definitely act younger, and that's what I like about this show. __________________ "A warrior who never fails, never learns."-The Ancient One. "Embrace your inner a**holiness."-Mr. Anderson.

08-13-2013, 08:22 AM	#5
Grimlock Hench Mutant Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Behind you Posts: 393	They dont act enough like teens? Donnie crushing in April. Leo showing off for Karai. Mikey using all kinds of modern slang. All 4 getting over confident after winning a few fights, showing their imaturity. I mean, do you want them to have pimples and cry in their room? Not everyone is like that in their teenage years.

08-13-2013, 09:46 AM	#8
Luckyday Mad Scientist Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 2,292	Well to be fair, the 2k3 series had the turtles riding on their skateboards or sport equipment that one time. Last edited by Luckyday; 08-13-2013 at 10:55 AM.

08-13-2013, 11:19 AM	#10
pingclang Stone Warrior Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Tennessee Posts: 552	These are teenagers who aren't exposed to the same things as we are, so I'm sure it's different for them. I do wish at least one of them would be upset about how they are "freaks" to people. They touched on it but not much. I just don't see them having so many issues like a kid in school, dealing with everyone around them and trying to figure out who they are when they're highly trained ninja given focus through martial arts.

08-13-2013, 12:43 PM	#11
Luckyday Mad Scientist Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 2,292	Not too long ago, I had a idea of being Irma a high school teacher and in some event of fashion she needed a place thus end up living with the turtles. When after living them for some time she starts realizing that each turtle would greatly benefit from a home school education but not because they need it but they have some huge potential within them. Unsurprisingly, most turtles (except Donnie) are resisted to the idea with most of the outcry coming from Raph, but slowly each turtle becoming curious with the one of subjects that appeal to them in certain way and Raph becomes the odd man out. Being the stubborn one, Raph continues to refuse any sort of home school education until Raph admits to Irma that he is afraid of looking stupid which problem most teenagers deal with. With some encouragement from Irma, Raph final join the class. Now the only problem making a episode like this is trying to not make look like a after school special or a public acconcement.

08-13-2013, 01:35 PM	#13
TurtleTitan97 Space Cowboy Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Speed Force Posts: 7,043	I disagree with your statement, Leo2k3. I love the fact the turtles act like teenagers in this series. They haven't "lost" anything to begin with. __________________

08-13-2013, 01:43 PM	#14
Electric Epic Hiatus Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 2,484	i like them acting like teens, it gives them more depth, and room for development, where as 2k3 tmnt, the characters had their traits and personalities and knew who they were, and it wasnt as interesting __________________

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Refractive Reflections Mad Scientist $Refractive Reflections's Avatar$ Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 2,371	These Nick Turtles are probably more teenagerish than I would expect with crime-fighters, and not always in the best way (i.e. the Turtles' lack of sympathy for Timothy in "The Pulverizer Returns" episode). But as I mentioned before in previous threads, these instances can be used to show how dramatically the Nick Turtles will mature through subsequent seasons. Also I have to consider that these Nick Turtles were sheltered from the outside world for nearly 15 years, so... shrug I could tolerate and accept the OT and 2K3 Turtles as being teenagers (excluding the voices though), because I assumed that their brutal fighting experiences in the past had matured them at a much faster rate than other teenagers at that age. It's because I had a few friends who grew up in the crime-rampant inner city who were teenagers, in which their experiences forced them to mature leaps ahead than their more sheltered, secured peers residing in the middle-class/affluent suburbs. Last edited by Refractive Reflections; 08-13-2013 at 05:45 PM.
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