Am I The Only One Who Feels Bad for Megan Fox?

[Metalwolf]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

Millionaires can have hard lives too.

How do millionaires have hard lives? They don't have to wonder where their next meal comes from, they can afford better health care, they can afford to eat better (not talking about caviar, but simply healthier wholesome foods) and they can move to wherever they want.

If they ever have 'hard lives' it often self imposed and because they can't tell moocher hopefuls 'No' firmly enough, not anything intrinsic to being a millionaire itself. Plus they aren't forced to have that much money, they step into it and stay in it willingly. That's why I kind of cringe about Meggy's complaining, to me it comes off as heavily pretentious, especially when many Americans are struggling just to pay the bills.

[Xav]

Originally Posted by Konchadunga

Off camera, Fox also had the guts to call out Michael Bay for his bloated egotism, and also wondered if his movies were bad for her image. (Apparently so.) For that, he fired her, and I remember reading people saying things like "Hooray, Megan Fox is gone" rather than "Damn; that Michael Bay is a vindictive jerk." I hope nobody ever was under the impression that Bay fired her in order to please naysayers; I never saw DOTM, but apparently, it didn't really fix much.

Bay fired Fox because Spielberg made him.

Originally Posted by FlogginMcMurryZombiePizza

my problem just rests on the fact that Bay is directing and Fox is about the last choice I would have for April.
BUT, hey, she could be great... who knows. But she's still being directed by Bay so we may not get much more out of her than what he wanted from her in TF.

Bay is not directing he's one of the producers. Jonathan Liebesman is directing.

[Leo656]

I don't "hate" the rich, per se. Hating the rich, like hating the old, is a questionable prejudice, because if all goes well for you, you BECOME them, one day.

But I do agree that people who can choose to live where they want, f*ck who they want, eat as well as they want, are not generally able to be punished by any known laws no matter what they do, don't have to raise or even see their own annoying children, and spend literally all of their time playing make-believe, having a mid-life crisis, and/or doing insane amounts of expensive drugs... those people literally have nothing to complain about, ever. And the things they DO complain about makes them look like the absolute shallowest c*nts on Earth.

[Jester]

Originally Posted by Xav

Bay fired Fox because Spielberg made him.

Really...and he kept Shia. I swear the LaBeouf family has some dirt on Spielberg or something....

[CyberCubed]

Wow, people are feeling sorry for rich people now? People who make millions just putting in a few hours of work each week?

People who have 10 bedroom mansions and their own swimming pool and tennis courts? People who never have to worry about going broke or putting food on the table?

Good god. How the hell can anyone feel sorry for millionaires? The ones who screw up their success like Linsday Lohan or Britney Spears deserve to be mocked and ridiculed. They ****ed themselves up.

[The Stryker]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Good god. How the hell can anyone feel sorry for millionaires? The ones who screw up their success like Linsday Lohan or Britney Spears deserve to be mocked and ridiculed. They ****ed themselves up.

People with emotional issues DESERVE to be mocked and ridiculed?

That's some serious sh*t you're laying down there.

[Shark_Blade]

Millionaires are people too. There are good and bad millionaires, just like there are good and bad normal/standard or poor people.

So you only judge people based on their money? How shallow can you get?

[Cure]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Wow, people are feeling sorry for rich people now? People who make millions just putting in a few hours of work each week?

People who have 10 bedroom mansions and their own swimming pool and tennis courts? People who never have to worry about going broke or putting food on the table?

Good god. How the hell can anyone feel sorry for millionaires? The ones who screw up their success like Linsday Lohan or Britney Spears deserve to be mocked and ridiculed. They ****ed themselves up.

Because they're human f*cking beings. Wow.

What a gross thread. The jealousy and malice is pitiful.

[CyberCubed]

Nobody cares about Lindsay Lohan. She's public ridicule.

The scary thing is she's only 27 years old yet she looks like she's 40. Way to kill your youth with drugs and whatever else.

[Jester]

How would it feel if some one said:
"Nobody cares about Cybercubed. He's public ridicule." (Nice grammar, BTW)


Oh...wait...we do. Never mind.

[CyberCubed]

Famous people who ruined their own lives with drugs and/or whatever don't deserve any sympathy. They brought it all upon themselves.

[The Stryker]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Nobody cares about Lindsay Lohan. She's public ridicule.

The scary thing is she's only 27 years old yet she looks like she's 40. Way to kill your youth with drugs and whatever else.

A drug and alcohol ADDICTION. Are you seriously saying it's ok to say awful things about a person riddled with emotional problems just because they have more money than you?

That's disgusting man, you cannot be serious.

[Jester]

So what's your opinion on broke/"normal" people who ruin their lives with drugs? Didn't they do it to themselves too? Why are they any more sympathetic?

[CyberCubed]

She's been in and out of rehab for a while. She's had help on top of that and still blew it. Now she's try to do porn to revive her career.

[Jester]

Addiction is hard to kick. Again, "normal" people are also in and out of rehab for addiction...they just aren't on TMZ.

[The Stryker]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

She's been in and out of rehab for a while. She's had help on top of that and still blew it. Now she's try to do porn to revive her career.

It's called an addiction. Lump-head. It's not a magical on-off switch for people.

[Leo656]

Well, actually, you only get an addiction by being an idiot in the first place, so no, I don't particularly feel sorry for people with "addiction problems", because it's a sign of weakness, ignorance, and self-importance. I'm the only person in my entire family, many of whom are dead, who doesn't have an "addiction problem", partly because I've spent my entire life watching people kill themselves slowly.

You know why it makes no sense to feel sorry for these people ("Addicts")? Because literally from birth, you are told "Drugs, alcohol, etc. are bad for you." Many people see it first-hand, as I did, growing up in houses full of addicts, having to deal with the fall-out, often physical, from one too many drinks or a few too many lines. And I've watched people who grew up with abusive addicts as parents, often people IN my family, grow up and use THEIR abuse as an excuse to become addicts as adults, claiming the abuse they suffered as kids from their alcoholic/drug addicted parents, messed them up SO badly, they have NO CHOICE as adults but to get drunk, pop pills, and scream at and hit THEIR OWN kids! F*cking brilliant!

It's a lie. It's a crutch. It's selfish behavior. It's above all A CHOICE. You KNOW the consequences of your actions, often having seen them first-hand. Cigarettes give you cancer. Too much alcohol destroys your insides and makes you into a huge asshole. Drugs destroy your body and your mind, eventually turning you into a liar, a thief, and in the case of just about anyone who has ever killed someone on the street, sometimes they even make you a murderer. And these things ONLY happen to you, IF you choose to ignore the practical advice that is drilled into your head from the time you are a young child. Why do people disregard all common sense and choose to poison themselves with cigarettes, alcohol and narcotics? "YOLO, BABY!!!"

I've watched people I liked and respected turn into monsters because they figured, "What's the harm if it makes me feel good?" I've had to bury people, like my mother, who decided "I'm careful, so nothing bad can happen to me." And I spent my entire childhood listening to people enable her right into the goddamn grave, saying that as an adult she had the right to do whatever she wanted, even lie and steal and avoid paying bills, and ultimately DIE and abandon her children, because "Addiction is a disease". Bullsh*t. I sat there in those insipid AA and NA meetings, listening to the lies those people tell about how it's NEVER your fault; you're broken, you're diseased, you need "help", you need Jesus... it's never, "You need a slap in the face and to take some f*cking responsibility for your actions, because you're f*cking up your life and the life of everyone around you."

I'm not a saint. I drink when I feel like, which is rare, because I'm what's called a RESPONSIBLE ADULT. I don't decide to do things that are going to hurt people, make me act like an a**hole (Lord knows I don't need the help), make me feel sick, make me spend money I don't have, or anything really that flies in the face of common sense. And I don't think I'm special, I just think I pay attention. My cousin was abused as a kid by her drunken Mom, used that as an excuse to drink and do drugs as a teen/adult, now gets drunk and abuses HER kids, the oldest of which now as a teen is doing drugs and alcohol, too, to "cope". It's not "a disease", it's a CYCLE, one borne of stupidity and poor choices, and it makes me sick to my stomach, just like it did the day we buried my mother, and her sister was too f*cked up on heroin to even go, and later that day everyone went in the bedroom to get high to "mourn" someone who had just died of a f*cking overdose.

F*ck every single one of those people. Compassion for people who go out of their way to hurt themselves and others only enables them. I've earned every bit of me being a judgmental prick. The world would be a much better place if we established that actions have consequences, instead of perpetuating this myth of "addiction", which removes all blame from the "addict" and puts it all on everyone else, for "making their life so hard that just can't cope." This myth of addiction is more than anything what is crippling our development as a species.

My compassion went in the ground with my parents. Anyone who puts a needle in their arm or a line up their nose should be shot in the head like a circus animal for being willingly a moron. F*ck 'em.

[The Stryker]

Well that's just peachy for you. I've gone through the same garbage and I've chosen not to look down on people with serious problems.

Maybe I'm just one of those crazies! I don't know!

[Leo656]

It's been established that we're two very different people.

Bad behavior is bad behavior, and should be punished and not enabled or celebrated. Feel free to disagree if you want, but I see no logic in it. Some people DESERVE to be looked down on. Not every human life intrinsically has the same value as everyone else. Lots of people squander it.

I've always believed that trying earnestly to live an honest and moral life does make one person better than a person who doesn't give a sh*t.

[The Stryker]

Ridiculing and hating other people because they f*cked up in their life. Real honest and moral living.

I understand where you're coming from but I've seen too many people struggle, fail and succeed in those situations to take the ridiculous stand of "You did the thing. You are no longer worth anything and I look down on you."