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Old 10-13-2013, 04:45 PM   #101
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Yep, still going on as far as I know. They're trying to get it resolved, but I don't know if it'll get resolved right away.

And, LS, I agree with you. My biggest fear is that this shutdown will make any countries who have seen us as their ally may not want to be friends with us because they figure that if we can't even agree on our own stuff, they may see us as untrustworthy.
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Old 10-13-2013, 07:21 PM   #102
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What I think is ridiculous is some things they are shutting down take more money to "shutdown" than it does to leave them open. I mean, closing open air monuments? Are we serious?
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Old 10-14-2013, 07:43 AM   #103
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I agree, but this IS the government we're talking about here. They don't have common sense to do anything right. I'll be surprised if they come up with an agreement about the debt ceiling in a few days not to mention if they'll even resolve the whole Obamacare issue, but I don't have hopes on that one.
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Old 10-14-2013, 06:45 PM   #104
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What exactly is there to "resolve" on Obamacare? It was passed into law....it was upheld by the Supreme Court when it was challenged...

The only way to change it at this point is to pass legislation repealing it and guess what? That's not gonna happen unless both halves of Congress have enough votes to pass and override a veto. Which they don't have at the moment.

So basically, all this tacking on of anti-Obamacare riders on the budget is idiotic. Again, if Republicans are so confidant that people hate Obamacare, let it go into effect. If it is a disaster, the mid term elections are next year and people will vote Republicans in to revoke the law. Right now they are killing themselves because most people realize the above facts.
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Old 10-16-2013, 04:43 PM   #105
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Yes, that's true, and I agree. I just heard they've reached a deal on the debt ceiling and it will be put to a vote in the Senate and then the House gets it tonight. So, we'll see what they do.
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Old 10-16-2013, 04:49 PM   #106
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And then we get to go through this all again in January. Whee!
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Old 10-17-2013, 08:46 AM   #107
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Well, they did reach a deal, but I think all of this was done on purpose anyway. I knew they'd wait until the last minute because that's what they want to do. Stupid, idiotic politicians!
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Old 10-17-2013, 10:39 AM   #108
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These "kicking the can" deals are unsustainable. Another financial firm is likely going to downgrade the US's credit rating. Its sad considering that its more about playing a political game for Congress as opposed to being for the people. The US is the only large developed country with a debt ceiling, and we don't know when, but at some point unless if a great discovery is made, will keep slipping in the world rankings.
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Old 10-18-2013, 07:59 AM   #109
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Yep, and soon no country will want to ally itself with us anymore because we can't get our sh*t together.
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