What was the point of the vacation episodes?

[TurtleFan2012]

I love the season, but were they trying to be educational? No offense, but the writers are not good at science and math. I'm starting to wonder how accurate the episodes are when Splinter is giving them history lessons.

[turtlefanforever]

I'm watching them now actually. I don't mind them they're great. It could be educational a little bit, but I think it was to mix it up a bit cause the up until then it was a little bit of the same. Still love it though. Can't complain at all about this series.

[TurtleFan2012]

Do the episodes remind anyone of the "World Tour" of Gargoyles where Goliath and Eliza are traveling around the world, fighting their arch foes?

[Jester]

Originally Posted by turtlefanforever

I'm watching them now actually. I don't mind them they're great. It could be educational a little bit, but I think it was to mix it up a bit cause the up until then it was a little bit of the same. Still love it though. Can't complain at all about this series.

Ironic that you "love" the weakest aspect of the FW series yet constantly go after the Nick series.

[turtlefanforever]

Originally Posted by Jester

Ironic that you "love" the weakest aspect of the FW series yet constantly go after the Nick series.

I just don't like horrid shows or films. Simple as that

[Jester]

But the European Vacation is the very definition of horid TMNT:
* Tons of replacement voice actors. Rob Paulsen is AWOL from the whole thing and James Avery and Barry Gordon drop in and out at times. I wanna say there's at least 1 episode where you have all 3 gone. Joy.
* The plot takes the Turtles and the Channel 6 Crew ALL OVER Europe with little rhyme or reason. in some episodes April is already in Europe and the Turtles meet up with her, other times she's sent there, still others have Irma or Vernon, or both sent off to April from New York when they were just there an episode ago. A mess.
*The stories are some of the weakest in the series. A rust gun...the heck?

Now, how about reasons you don't like the "horrid" Nick Turtles?

[MikeandRaph87]

Originally Posted by Jester

Ironic that you "love" the weakest aspect of the FW series yet constantly go after the Nick series.

Three of the European episodes were amongst the weakest entries of the series overall but not the whole thing. I think the weakest is represented by Dregg and Carter of the series itself. I get your point to our new padwan as he has alot to learn in the ways of Ninja Turtles however.

Shredder's New Sword, Elementary My Dear Turtle, and Ring Of Fire are still awesome.

[turtlefanforever]

Without it you wouldn't even have your terrible nick show so idk what you're complaining about. Plus it was like 20 years ago and still kicking. It goes without saying that it'll stand the tests of time a lt better than the new series. And it wasn't weak in any sense. Especially for its time.

[Jester]

Originally Posted by turtlefanforever

Without it you wouldn't even have your terrible nick show so idk what you're complaining about. Plus it was like 20 years ago and still kicking. It goes without saying that it'll stand the tests of time a lt better than the new series. And it wasn't weak in any sense. Especially for its time.

Still not telling me why you loathe the Nick series there, Sparky.

[turtlefanforever]

And I've explained in multiple threads. I did give it a chance as not to be biased. I tried to like it, but there's just no way. Obvious plot holes, terrible animation and dialog. Changing of weapons. Not much action. The stupid "the kraang" concept. Donny's micheal strahan tooth gap.! Mikey's over the top jokes being too lackadaisical. He isn't serious. Them having a pet turtle. Splinter being taller and his terrible design. Donny's over the top crush on April. April being a little girl. That's just to name a few.

[Jester]

Now was that so hard?

[MiBs]

Originally Posted by turtlefanforever

And I've explained in multiple threads. I did give it a chance as not to be biased. I tried to like it, but there's just no way. Obvious plot holes, terrible animation and dialog. Changing of weapons. Not much action. The stupid "the kraang" concept. Donny's micheal strahan tooth gap.! Mikey's over the top jokes being too lackadaisical. He isn't serious. Them having a pet turtle. Splinter being taller and his terrible design. Donny's over the top crush on April. April being a little girl. That's just to name a few.

the animation and the design of Splinter are some of the stuff I really like about this show. And, not much action....what are you talking about?

[turtlefanforever]

Originally Posted by Jester

Now was that so hard?

I've explained it many times already. It seems sort of redundant.

[BabyTurtles]

Originally Posted by MiBs

the animation and the design of Splinter are some of the stuff I really like about this show. And, not much action....what are you talking about?

everyone has their own opinion.

I think the animation is awesome~ they put alot of work into it I can tell.

I mean have you seen other CGI cartoons? XD the characters aren't as cool and expressive as TMNT.

[blindturtle02]

Originally Posted by TurtleFan2012

I love the season, but were they trying to be educational? No offense, but the writers are not good at science and math. I'm starting to wonder how accurate the episodes are when Splinter is giving them history lessons.

I loved these when I was a kid. Wanna say they aired on USA network for the first time in the Fall of 93? So I always wanted these on a series of 5 to 6 VHS tapes like the sewer hero series etc. Now when I rewatch them, the episodes without Shredder and co are a little difficult to sit through. They're not terrible, but I like the Saturday morning CBS run where you had random mad scientists or mobsters better than the villains in the vacation arc. The comedy there felt like it came easier with those writers. The random villains here were a bit odd, I guess. The snooty art loving aliens weren't all that interesting.

Glad to have them all on DVD now. I need to look back at this other thread on these forums where a member tried to organize them by way of travel. If you watch them in the way they were aired, they're sort of going all over the place episode by episode. At least that's the way I remember it. The last time I watched this arc was back in May of 2013. I'm actually stalled in season 6. Just got to doing other things and really need to get back to the OT so I can finish up eventually.

As for the point, that's hard to say. I wonder why they didn't do this arc sooner. I mean, we got informed in the s4 premier that they won the trip but next episode they're fighting a gigantic monkey in New York. At least I think Turtles of The Jungle comes next after Plan 6 From Outer Space. Always wondered if some kid or group of kids wrote a letter to the writers asking to follow through with the idea of a vacation miniseries or something. Does anyone know the story behind the reason why we had to wait so long for this particular batch of episodes back in the 90's?

[CyberCubed]

The euro episodes aren't very good but I think its Raphael's alternate voice that really ruins my enjoyment of them.

[blindturtle02]

Yeah, I feel the same way. I wonder what Paulson was up to during that time? I mean, not able to do the voice for 13 shows? It's always a treat to hear him as Raph again whenever I finish these eps and continue the actual 4th season

[Leo656]

Just seemed like filler, to me. Last time we did a marathon run of the OT, that was by far the hardest stretch to sit through. It was like everything people make fun of about the OT crammed into one straight shot of suck.

[TurtleFan2012]

I am a fan of Jim Cummings, but his Shredder voice was very distracting. It doesn't help that he voiced a viking an episode after, using the SAME Pete voice.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

I dunno- some of them weren't too bad. I kind of liked the Arthurian episode, and the Sherlock Holmes one. The rest were sort of silly, but I think the one in Ireland was probably the worst. Giant angry mutant bunnies??! It looked like something out of a REALLY bad Monty Python film.... My biggest beef was with the alternate voices being used so freely. Then again, "Turtle Terminator" from season three had both an alternate Don and Raph- and IT was very jarring, too.