Casey's and Raphael's first meeting

[turtlefanforever]

Originally Posted by NinjaPug

Definitely the 1990 film



I thought you didn't watch the Nick show?

I'm starting to thing you have a thing for me buddy. Sadly for you I'm not single. Boo hoo that being said, I do not watch it. I did at one point. I gave it a chance as to have no bias. I am very open minded, it was complete crap though. So that's that.

[Leo656]

Nobody unbiased would say it was COMPLETE crap. There's a lot off about it but there's a lot it does right. Even at its weakest it's not, like, outwardly offensive.

I can see someone not liking it enough to want to watch it often or at all, but "It's not the show I want" and "It's crap" aren't the same thing at all. It's definitely not the TMNT show I want to see, but it's definitely not "crap", either. As its own thing, it's pretty good. It's not really all of what I want to see, but I'm not entirely the audience.

I also voted for the 1990 film, because of the vocal delivery and the terrific performance of Elias Koteas. You could almost believe their exchange wasn't scripted, it was so natural. And the way they met really helped set the stage for strong character arcs for both of them over the rest of the film, both individually and how they came to play off of each other. Some great stuff going on there.

[BabyTurtles]

Originally Posted by turtlefanforever

I'm starting to thing you have a thing for me buddy. Sadly for you I'm not single. Boo hoo that being said, I do not watch it. I did at one point. I gave it a chance as to have no bias. I am very open minded, it was complete crap though. So that's that.

I think he was implying that if you haven't seen the Nick version how can you say it was bad.

that's all I don't think he was trying to sound mean or anything.

...hmm my favorite....I like the 2003 and Nick! ^_^ oh and the first movie~
can't decide....

[turtlefanforever]

Originally Posted by Leo656

Nobody unbiased would say it was COMPLETE crap. There's a lot off about it but there's a lot it does right. Even at its weakest it's not, like, outwardly offensive.

I can see someone not liking it enough to want to watch it often or at all, but "It's not the show I want" and "It's crap" aren't the same thing at all. It's definitely not the TMNT show I want to see, but it's definitely not "crap", either. As its own thing, it's pretty good. It's not really all of what I want to see, but I'm not entirely the audience.

I also voted for the 1990 film, because of the vocal delivery and the terrific performance of Elias Koteas. You could almost believe their exchange wasn't scripted, it was so natural. And the way they met really helped set the stage for strong character arcs for both of them over the rest of the film, both individually and how they came to play off of each other. Some great stuff going on there.

I get what your saying, but its still complete crap. That being said the 1990 film exchange was great. And that cricket line they put in there specifically because it was so hard to get out the sounds of crickets in the background was pure genious.

[Refractive Reflections]

The Nick exchange seemed to parallel too closely to the 4Kids exchange about how Raph was trying to calm Casey Jones down after beating up a few muggers, and in both universes, just before their first interaction both episodes expose Raph's temper from a practice fight with the other Turtles.

When I watched both episodes again (4Kids' "Meet Casey Jones" and Nick's "The Good, The Bad and Casey Jones")... yeah... The scenes could easily be interchangeable with each other.

[Kurai]

I have to go with IDW. The characters instantly bonded as soon as they met, whereas other versions have them fight before becoming friends. (I haven't read Mirage Raphael #1 or seen the episode of the Nick show where they meet yet, so I can't comment on those yet)

[NinjaPug]

Originally Posted by turtlefanforever

I'm starting to thing you have a thing for me buddy. Sadly for you I'm not single. Boo hoo that being said, I do not watch it. I did at one point. I gave it a chance as to have no bias. I am very open minded, it was complete crap though. So that's that.

If you haven't seen the episode then how can you say "definitely not Nick"?

Originally Posted by Refractive Reflections

The Nick exchange seemed to parallel too closely to the 4Kids exchange about how Raph was trying to calm Casey Jones down after beating up a few muggers, and in both universes, just before their first interaction both episodes expose Raph's temper from a practice fight with the other Turtles.

When I watched both episodes again (4Kids' "Meet Casey Jones" and Nick's "The Good, The Bad and Casey Jones")... yeah... The scenes could easily be interchangeable with each other.

That's because both episodes follow the original Casey Jones intro in the Mirage Raphael one shot.

[BubblyShell22]

I voted for the Nick version because I think that Casey Jones is awesome. However, I'll always love the 1990 movie version because of the dialogue.

"Cricket? I don't know no cricket. You gotta know what a crumpet is to know what cricket is."

[Refractive Reflections]

Originally Posted by NinjaPug

That's because both episodes follow the original Casey Jones intro in the Mirage Raphael one shot.

Meh **shrug**... It would have been nice to have a little variation like the 1990 movie and IDW did, considering how notable their first interaction is in developing a lifelong friendship. Oh well...

[DonnyMac]

I'm gonna go with the 1990 movie all the way

[pferreira]

The 1990 movie as that's the one I'm most familiar with.

[pannoni1]

The hockey penalties leading up to Raph's reference is clearly one of the most outstanding introductions in TMNT history. Then comes the baseball bat scene that eventually gives Casey his superiority leaving Raph quite overwhelmed as he tries to explain what happened to Splinter. But then which was second is a tough call, but I'd lead towards Mirage for its classic edginess, followed by the Nick version.

[discordiatookie]

I love the Mirage intro, but there's just something special in seeing the two of them duke it out on the big screen in the first film. I dunno if it's Casey's mask or Raph's trench coat, I absolutely love that scene.

[Warhorse]

You know, in 2k3, Meet Casey Jones wasn't exactly the first time Raphael met Casey. Remember the episode where they flashback to when they tried to help a very young Casey Jones face his bullies? And they didn't even realize it.

But, I'm definitely going with the 1990 movie. That was pure classic!

[turtlefanforever]

It's all of them meeting, and his crazy Law breaker slogan and attacks.

[billbot85]

It would have to be the 1990 movie for me. "Cricket?! Nobody understands cricket!" The whole exchange was just priceless, even leading up to Raph flipping over the cab and yelling "DAAAAMN!!" One of my favorite scenes from the film.

Although I do really like the Mirage version, too. Comes in as a close second for me.

[Warhorse]

Originally Posted by billbot85

It would have to be the 1990 movie for me. "Cricket?! Nobody understands cricket!" The whole exchange was just priceless, even leading up to Raph flipping over the cab and yelling "DAAAAMN!!" One of my favorite scenes from the film.

Although I do really like the Mirage version, too. Comes in as a close second for me.

I also loved it how in that same scene, the tenant in the cab goes "What the heck was that?" and it was the dude who was doing the stunts and the voice work for Raph. Funny stuff there.