Where's Oroku Saki?

[ninja-zero]

What happened to Oroku Saki? The REAL Shredder!?

[TrickOrTreater]

Chances are he doesn't exist.

Been some speculation he's the REAL Shredder over in Japan while Sachs is just American branch.

Been some speculation that Sachs is the reincarnation of Oroku Saki who lived in Feudal Japan.

I'm picking the "he doesn't exist" one.

[sethmartin]

Also, in an excruciatingly boring interview with the writer of the film, he was asked about Oroku Saki in which he replied, "Perhaps we will, perhaps not, perhaps we will perhaps you all up the perhaps."

[Andrew NDB]

Some possibilities, for those so inclined to care:

A) Just as Erich Sachs might be a host to Krang now, once upon a time Oroku Saki might have been a host to Krang as well.
B) Oroku Saki could be a historical figure from Feudal Japan that was inspirational to Erich Sachs. Possibly seen in some manner of flashbacks.
C) Oroku Saki could have been Erich Sachs' direct mentor. Perhaps Erich Sachs killed him and assumed his identity.
D) If there is a Japanese branch of the Foot, he may be its leader. Karai is in the movie, after all.

I'm betting one of the 4 options there. Oroku Saki will be name-dropped at the very least, I'm sure.

[sethmartin]

What about Hamato Yoshi? How is he and Splinter connected?

[TrickOrTreater]

Originally Posted by sethmartin

What about Hamato Yoshi? How is he and Splinter connected?

No guarantee he's in the movie either.

[Candy Kappa]

Eric Sachs = Eriku Saksu = Oroku Saki

Eric Sachs is the movieverse version of Oroku Saki.

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

Eric Sachs = Eriku Saksu = Oroku Saki

Eric Sachs is the movieverse version of Oroku Saki.

Exactly. People keep pulling crazy theories out of their assess.

[CyberCubed]

The scumbags made him into white man Eric Sachs.

Every Asian person in the world should be morally offended.

[sethmartin]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

The scumbags made him into white man Eric Sachs.

Every Asian person in the world should be morally offended.

Ha ha I like how your avatar is a pissed off Oroku Saki lol

[sethmartin]

So what's Splinter's name going to be? Hamilton Young?

[bwwd]

erich sachs is obviously americanized oroku saki, so hes just american guy with no martial aerts skills at all and his army of masked cliched warriors with guns

[NYShell]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

D) If there is a Japanese branch of the Foot, he may be its leader. Karai is in the movie, after all.

I saw a Karai type lady in the trailer with foot gear, but do we know for sure that's her?

[electric_sheep]

Erick Sach is Whitewashed Oroku Saki, that's closest thing to real Oroku in this universe.

[Candy Kappa]

Originally Posted by NYShell

I saw a Karai type lady in the trailer with foot gear, but do we know for sure that's her?

The closest I know is that her Lego figure have been labeled Karai in the Lego wiki page, and they tend to have the right names for upcoming sets.

But, that's as far as I've invested time in that subject.

[CyberCubed]

I'm surprised Karai wasn't renamed Katherine and turned into a hot blonde instead.

[gutterpunk13]

I believe that "The Shredder" of the new movie is going to be like the Shredder in the 2003 cartoon where he is the ancient spirit of Oroku Saki.

Eric Sachs will be obsessed (or Possessed) with the ancient Shredder to the point of trying to become him. (rebuilding the foot, super Shredder armor etc etc. The name Eric Sachs is just to throw people off.

I expect the Shredder spirit will be resurrected either by Sachs or is a planned movie Sequel.

Called it.

[sethmartin]

Originally Posted by gutterpunk13

I believe that "The Shredder" of the new movie is going to be like the Shredder in the 2003 cartoon where he is the ancient spirit of Oroku Saki.

Eric Sachs will be obsessed (or Possessed) with the ancient Shredder to the point of trying to become him. (rebuilding the foot, super Shredder armor etc etc. The name Eric Sachs is just to throw people off.

I expect the Shredder spirit will be resurrected either by Sachs or is a planned movie Sequel.

Called it.

Yeah this sounds good. But what about Splinter?

[gutterpunk13]

Originally Posted by sethmartin

Yeah this sounds good. But what about Splinter?

If I am correct and I would not mind it if they did it like IDW where splinter and the turtles were reincarnated.

But I seriously doubt that.

I suspect that Splinters Japanese culture and ninja training will be a result of the mutation, as someone said before like the matrix.

However it could also be that Eric Sachs is using ancient Japanese DNA to experiment on resurrecting ancient Japanese remains. in the process he mutates/resurrects a rat named Hamato Yoshi. All hell breaks loose the rat escapes into the sewers with a broken Mutagen canister and four baby turtles.

[thesaintofkiller]

This whole change from Oroku Saki to a white rich business man villain reminds me a lot of Fox' treatment to Doctor Doom in the 2005 fantastic four movies. People were hoping, even at the last second, that there would be more to it than meet the eyes. There wasn't.

And there won't be in this case either. Don't kid yourself. It's a white Shredder with a really dumb change of name. It's the same thing Michael Bay always does. It's the EXACT same thing as what Fox did to Doctor Doom. It lacked imagination back then and it still does today.

Years later, we still laugh at how badly Fox handle that movie. And we will do the same with this new Shredder. There's nothing more to it.

All those speculations do is remind us how badly they are handling one of our favorite villain.