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Old 04-10-2014, 02:27 PM   #21
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Some people like to bully him cause hes successful and they are not.
Being successful doesn't mean he's above criticism, and having valid (though admittedly subjective) issues with his work and his "style" doesn't make someone a bully.

More power to the people who like his work! But the wide consensus among critics and film experts is that he's made/produced very few quality films.

People can be entertained by something that's not "quality", and there's nothing wrong with that. But there's also nothing wrong with expecting more and criticizing movies and creators when they fall short.
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Old 04-10-2014, 02:27 PM   #22
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It's safe to say that Michael Bay/ PD films aren't critically acclaimed...in fact universally panned (by critics) is probably a very accurate description.

If everybody was mocking his sexuality or something that would be bullying...

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Old 04-10-2014, 02:28 PM   #23
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Some people like to bully him cause hes successful and they are not.
Or maybe it's because his films just aren't that good.
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Old 04-10-2014, 02:43 PM   #24
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Or maybe it's because his films just aren't that good.
"If people don't like what I like then they're a bully."

That's the overall message I'm getting from a handful of people on this site.
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Old 04-10-2014, 03:09 PM   #25
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Short answer?

No.

Although I did like the visuals of 13. And Elm Street. And I liked Amityville for the most part.
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Old 04-10-2014, 03:14 PM   #26
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Take a crap franchise like Transformers. There really isn't much meat to that mythology to begin with ...
That is completely untrue. The Transformers franchise has plenty of mythology in it. There's more to the franchise than just giant robots fighting each other.
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Old 04-10-2014, 03:23 PM   #27
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As someone who grew up on both G1 Transformers and GI JOE, I strongly disagree with your statement there Çhucker.
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Old 04-10-2014, 03:39 PM   #28
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I like most of them so I have nothing to worry about.

They're gonna do great.
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Old 04-10-2014, 04:30 PM   #29
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TF fans got pissed why ... because they put flames on Prime's body?.
Yup, the only reason why some dislikes the movies, not because the robot designs are bad, or that the main (human) characters are unlikable douches, or the racists/offensive stereotypes, terrible acting, low blows, truck sized plot holes, extreme inconsistency, terrible framing and choreography, and bad editing, crappy remake of the Stan Bush song. etc etc.

Nope, they made fire paintwork on Prime's body, that's the only thing wrong with the movies.



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Old 04-10-2014, 04:54 PM   #30
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Imho the amityville horror remake was great. And ill probobly get alot of hate for this one but I ****ing hated the f13 movies....they were so damn boring and cliche, at least to me, but the pd version was actually good to me. Unfortunately the biggest letdown of the century was nightmare on elm st. I loved thos movies growing up and was super stoked for the remake and when I wentto see it I couldnt wait for itto be over.....ugh....
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Old 04-10-2014, 05:41 PM   #31
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pdizzle, that Leo super back flip is sick AF
I know right..thanks......feel free to use it....
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I liked the A Nightmare on Elm Street remake

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Old 04-10-2014, 07:16 PM   #33
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I just love the abilities their increased size due to mutation will do for the "ninja action" in this film. It heightens everything they do.

For the age where audiences would be less impressed with more grounded turtles due to the abundance of super heroic action scenes ... it makes sense the turtles be bigger, to have more physical capabilities.
The problem is, the "bigger and bigger" you get with this stuff, the less special it becomes. If every character has to be a jacked-up superhero and every action scene has to be over-the-top explosive, you really lose some of the elegance and skill behind good fight choreography.
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Old 04-10-2014, 07:35 PM   #34
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Bay has made, and produced quite a few entertaining films. People like to bully him, but honestly he's not bad. Yes, he likes hot chicks, and explosions. I didn't know having testosterone in one's body is bad thing. I like those things. He makes dumb, fun, popcorn movies. Why do people hold him to such higher standards? He doesn't act like he's Kubrick or something.
Ok 2 things
1. Since when is not liking someones style of film bullying them. It not like negative comments are going to chase him out of hollywood.
2. You just hit the nail on the head when it comes to why people hate to see his name attached to things. Maybe they want a movie with more substance then just boobs and explosions. Maybe they want to see characters they love to come to life and be, you know three dimensional
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The problem is, the "bigger and bigger" you get with this stuff, the less special it becomes. If every character has to be a jacked-up superhero and every action scene has to be over-the-top explosive, you really lose some of the elegance and skill behind good fight choreography.
Agreed. Heck, the most intense battle of the first movie was just Shredder and the turtles. It was the most intimate fight of the film, yet it packed the most punch.
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Old 04-10-2014, 08:29 PM   #36
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The problem is, the "bigger and bigger" you get with this stuff, the less special it becomes. If every character has to be a jacked-up superhero and every action scene has to be over-the-top explosive, you really lose some of the elegance and skill behind good fight choreography.
Agreed.

And also, how is 'running straight into a Humvee and making the entire thing topple over like a Transformer would do' considered 'Ninja Action'?
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Agreed.

And also, how is 'running straight into a Humvee and making the entire thing topple over like a Transformer would do' considered 'Ninja Action'?
Well, Raph is the muscle of the group, And Im sure there are Ninjas of all shapes and sizes.
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Well, Raph is the muscle of the group, And Im sure there are Ninjas of all shapes and sizes.
And unless he's also from Krypton, he couldn't have done what he did to a 5900 lb military humvee.
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Well, Raph is the muscle of the group, And Im sure there are Ninjas of all shapes and sizes.
Well, if it was smashing a door down? Fine. Through a wall? Maybe if the wall was somewhat weakened.

But making an entire Humvee smashed/flipped over is a bit 'too much'.
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And unless he's also from Krypton, he couldn't have done what he did to a 5900 lb military humvee.
Not unless he was going down that slope at transonic speeds I higly doubt that.
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