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Old 04-30-2014, 06:06 PM   #2661
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90% of people don't remember what either of them look pre-mutation.
That's not true at all. Ask anyone on this forum who watched the OT and they can tell you exactly what Bebop and Rocksteady looked like as humans. I don't believe for a second anyone here can't describe their human forms or remember what they look like in their mind.
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Old 04-30-2014, 06:06 PM   #2662
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Wondering if we'll be seeing Rocksteady and Bebop this season after all. I'd like to think so. Seems rather interesting that they'd pop up on Playmates' site right now. Hoping we at least see their premutated forms in Newtralized.
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Old 04-30-2014, 06:15 PM   #2663
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That's not true at all. Ask anyone on this forum who watched the OT and they can tell you exactly what Bebop and Rocksteady looked like as humans. I don't believe for a second anyone here can't describe their human forms or remember what they look like in their mind.
The people on this forum represent .0001% of people that watched the OT in the day Cubed...
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Old 04-30-2014, 06:25 PM   #2664
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I am not nearly as passionate about this particular issue but I would definitely prefer he remained a black dude. I won't throw a fit if he isn't, but still.
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Old 04-30-2014, 06:33 PM   #2665
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In a plot twist, Bebop is actually an alien from the far future where he drives a truck-like transport through the sky and regularly deals with terrapin time travelers landing on his rig.

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Old 04-30-2014, 07:34 PM   #2666
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That's not true at all. Ask anyone on this forum who watched the OT and they can tell you exactly what Bebop and Rocksteady looked like as humans. I don't believe for a second anyone here can't describe their human forms or remember what they look like in their mind.
I've seen the OT and I Remember what Bebop and Rocksteady looked like as humans.


However I don't think you need to worry about Bebop being African American.
I mean he was in the OT, he was in the IDW, so there is no reason for that trend to stop.


Ciro is familiar with the OT so obviously he is going to have Bebop and Rocksteady resemble a modernized version of who they were in the OT both as humans and as Mutants.

In the OT Bebop was one of the few major characters that was not Caucasian

And if by chance they don't make Bebop African American, does that truly make him less of a character. He is going to be the same bumbling Hench-mu
tant that he always was in the OT no matter what nationality he hails from.

Expressing that TMNT would suck because such and such person who was a certain ethnicity in another Incarnation. It's like saying the Hobbit movie sucks because they only used one of the songs that were in the books and none of the others.
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Old 04-30-2014, 08:23 PM   #2667
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I am not nearly as passionate about this particular issue but I would definitely prefer he remained a black dude. I won't throw a fit if he isn't, but still.
A fine line between preference and insistence.
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Old 04-30-2014, 08:46 PM   #2668
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The Beebop and Rock steady designs arent my favorite but maybe Ill learn to like them when I actually see them in motion. I really curious as to why Beebop has what I think are gold bars infused into is hands. With there look being released this early I wonder if they'll appear at the end of this season at least in human form.
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Old 04-30-2014, 09:37 PM   #2669
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I think it would be funny if they never show their human forms..
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Old 05-01-2014, 05:59 AM   #2670
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Episode description for Episode 19. This one is being shown out of order (18th episode shown but it's coded as Episode 19)

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Mikey struggles to convince the others that a new mutant is trying to attack and capture people using living pizzas.
5/18/2014
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Old 05-01-2014, 06:17 AM   #2671
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Bebop and Rocksteady, awesome! Not my favorite characters from TMNT...but still cool to see nonetheless, and very iconic! Thanks for sharing, dude...I'll put them in this post for you guys' convenience...

Bebop

http://www.playmatestoys.com/uploads...op_bio_pu1.jpg



Rocksteady

http://www.playmatestoys.com/uploads...dy_bio_pu1.jpg
They have a sort of techno organic vibe on their skin with the neon lines on Bebop and the golden armor growing out of Rocksteady's hide.
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Old 05-01-2014, 08:27 AM   #2672
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Episode description for Episode 19. This one is being shown out of order (18th episode shown but it's coded as Episode 19)

Pizza Face
Mikey struggles to convince the others that a new mutant is trying to attack and capture people using living pizzas.
5/18/2014
Now that's a episode I want to see!
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Old 05-01-2014, 10:48 AM   #2673
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Episode description for Episode 19. This one is being shown out of order (18th episode shown but it's coded as Episode 19)

Pizza Face
Mikey struggles to convince the others that a new mutant is trying to attack and capture people using living pizzas.
5/18/2014
yay Mikey episode!! *_*

poor Mikey...they still aren't listening to you.....>:U
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Old 05-01-2014, 12:06 PM   #2674
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Episode description for Episode 19. This one is being shown out of order (18th episode shown but it's coded as Episode 19)

Pizza Face
Mikey struggles to convince the others that a new mutant is trying to attack and capture people using living pizzas.
5/18/2014
Well happy birthday to me.
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Old 05-01-2014, 12:12 PM   #2675
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What are you talking about? All I've been saying is that you need to stop continuously complaining about how you hope they don't change Bebop's race, because you have no evidence that is even going to happen in this series. Not to mention it's just plain annoying.

Seriously. Just wait till the episode airs, then you can complain as much as you want if that actually happens to him (Which I doubt).
i agree with you i hate how some of the members (look Around) just wait till there episode comes out and his race does not matter white yellow black red i dont care heck they both might not even get a episode when they get mutated they might just be like tiger claw just pop up as A TIGER i am glad some of you agree with what turtle titan said. (PS Dont make fun of my grammer)

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Well happy birthday to me.
happy birthday friend episode will be good i think

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Old 05-01-2014, 01:27 PM   #2676
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It's funny, because before victory_angel posted that screenshot, I'd forgotten Bebop was black in the old cartoon.

I mean, I KNOW what they both look like. I can remember their human versions. I remember the mutations of them both vividly. I've even seen the series again very recently. But it wasn't until Bebop's race suddenly became a massive deal in the last few pages of this thread, that I went, "Oh yeah... he's black."

And I'd never stopped to even consider it before.

Because I've never really cared to notice the race of any of the characters in a cartoon. It was simply not a big deal. Not as a child, not as an adult. If the character is great, they're great. I don't care if they're Swedish, Malay, Argentinian.

Maybe it's different if you are from, what we call in the UK, an ethnic minority. I don't know what the balance is like in the states, and yes, due to immigration, and in certain cities, in the UK we now have a wide mix of cultures and ethnicities. But I'm in the belief we are still a majority white nation. When I was growing up, in my senior school there was about about 100 students in my year and a only 1 in 10 had some form of Asian or black descent. That's including mixed race students.

As a white person, I try not to let the media affect how I perceive someone in terms of race, be they fictional or real.

James Avery voiced Shredder. Barry Gordon voiced Bebop. We could make a deal out of that but we're not going to because they did their jobs perfectly.

If Bebop is black, he's black. If he isn't, well so what. We have an African American, several Asians, I believe Xever might be Brazilian, in this series.

In fact if you take background characters like generic blonde lady, and those that have been mutated, out of the equation, we currently only have three white characters: Casey, Irma, April.

There is a perfectly adequate balance here.
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Old 05-01-2014, 01:48 PM   #2677
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Not seeing race and "color blindness" makes it easier to ignore that some are more privileged then other only based on their race, or their appearance. Personally I think it would be for the better that Bebop stayed black like he is in FW/Archie and IDW
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Old 05-01-2014, 02:46 PM   #2678
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Playmates took the pictures down. I guess we weren't supposed to see Bebop and Rocksteady that early.
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Old 05-01-2014, 02:50 PM   #2679
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Could also be that the images wasn't final design, they didn't share the same pictures or design from the UK toy fair. Time will tell.
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Old 05-01-2014, 03:22 PM   #2680
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Can't wait for the Pizza Face ep. I just hope the pizza delivery kid doesn't turn into Pizza Face as that would just suck.
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