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Old 05-06-2014, 04:10 PM   #21
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I read through his other reviews. Basically it's just a list of films he doesn't care about so he doesn't think anyone else does. Yes some of the films on that list look terrible but are they going to flop??? Doubt it. I don't care about 'Blended' either but Sandler's movies rarely if ever flop. Sin City 2 is going to flop? Don't think so. It would be different if this was a list of "Movies that might suck" but he has no evidence or even good points of why he thinks these movies are going to flop at the box office.
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Old 05-06-2014, 04:29 PM   #22
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Truth be told, this movie could end up making transformer money. It really depends on how people react to it, I know a lot of people hated the transformer movies but where already getting a 4th one.

I wouldn't be surprised if it does well, not block buster good but good enough to warrant possible sequels for sure.
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Old 05-06-2014, 05:19 PM   #23
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Truth be told, this movie could end up making transformer money. It really depends on how people react to it, I know a lot of people hated the transformer movies but where already getting a 4th one.

I wouldn't be surprised if it does well, not block buster good but good enough to warrant possible sequels for sure.
Yep. Transformers the cartoon was popular but nowhere near as popular as the Turtles and people flock to those movies.
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Old 05-06-2014, 05:24 PM   #24
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It'll definitely make $$$$ for sure! No doubt about it. As much as people like to bust on Bay, the man can make some pretty bankable action flicks! I'm surprised it hasn't received more publicity than it has.

A movie like this will go beyond it's normal fanbase. You'll have US (the fans) wanting to see it, even if we don't like what they've done to the franchise. You will also have most young boys wanting to see it, as well as the action-movie crowd.

I don't see this making Transformers money...but it will definitely not be a flop financially. As to how it will fair with the critics...that's a different story!
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Old 05-06-2014, 05:30 PM   #25
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Sounds like an article written by an idiot.
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Old 05-06-2014, 05:34 PM   #26
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I don't see this making Transformers money...but it will definitely not be a flop financially. As to how it will fair with the critics...that's a different story!
I agree but ya never know. Who would have thought Transformers would end up making Transformers money? lol
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Old 05-06-2014, 05:36 PM   #27
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I agree but ya never know. Who would have thought Transformers would end up making Transformers money? lol
You would think that after 3 movies it would die down a little, i don't get it.
Are people really that stupid?
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Old 05-06-2014, 05:57 PM   #28
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The main stream appeal thing is totally bs, I disagree with half this. Only good thing is the terrible looks
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Old 05-06-2014, 07:01 PM   #29
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You would think that after 3 movies it would die down a little, i don't get it.
Are people really that stupid?
With all problems, that Bay movies has, he always knows how to make an overwhelming action. I can give him that.
People go for his movies because of the pretty picture and not because of interesting characters or story. I don't think anybody expect his movies to have that. It's an eye-popcorn. And that's why its popular.
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Old 05-06-2014, 07:22 PM   #30
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With all problems, that Bay movies has, he always knows how to make an overwhelming action. I can give him that.
People go for his movies because of the pretty picture and not because of interesting characters or story. I don't think anybody expect his movies to have that. It's an eye-popcorn. And that's why its popular.
i dont feel bays style works with turtles though...i mean it may now with the foot being military but the turtles were never about extreme action and explosions


transformers are about giant fighting robots...perfect for bay and co

i feel like he shouldve been given power rangers over TMNT
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Old 05-06-2014, 07:30 PM   #31
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i dont feel bays style works with turtles though...i mean it may now with the foot being military but the turtles were never about extreme action and explosions


transformers are about giant fighting robots...perfect for bay and co

i feel like he shouldve been given power rangers over TMNT
this is what i think WHO CARES ABOUT MBAY IF HE MAKES THIS MOVIE GET OVER IT I DONT CARE WHAT YOU GUYS THINK NOR SAY ABOUT HIM HE IS A GUY THAT LIKE TURTLE AND HAS MONNEY TO MAKE A MOVIE YOU GOT NO MONEY FOR A MOVIE SO CALM DOWM AND WAIT LIKE I AM AND WATCH THE FILM ps sorry for caps
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Old 05-06-2014, 07:36 PM   #32
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i dont feel bays style works with turtles though...i mean it may now with the foot being military but the turtles were never about extreme action and explosions


transformers are about giant fighting robots...perfect for bay and co

i feel like he shouldve been given power rangers over TMNT
Bay's style is the pollar oposite of the turtles. One is about fighting in the shadows, always being carefull not to be seen by the outside world, it's about family, the other is about EXPLOSIONS hot girl EXPLOSIONS dick joke EXPLOSIONS annoying charachter. And before you say Liebesman's directing, Liebesman is Bay's protage, they have the exact same style...
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Old 05-06-2014, 07:39 PM   #33
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They certainly haven't shown any of that 'overwhelming action'.

What, the hummer scene? A random tower falling that we've seen in dozens and dozens of movies? A few folks thrown around? Pretty much it.

Nothing overwhelming at all. I've seen more overwhelming stuff in Direct to DVD films from the 90's (especially PM Entertainment flicks) than the tiny bits of action they've showcased so far. And considering these are Action Films at the end of the day, that's pretty sad.

I hope the makers aren't thinking that 'hummer scene' is as "Badass" as they are trying to make it seem like...because if they think that scene is one of their "Big Money Shots for the film" then they are in even worse shape than I thought.
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Old 05-06-2014, 07:42 PM   #34
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this is what i think WHO CARES ABOUT MBAY IF HE MAKES THIS MOVIE GET OVER IT I DONT CARE WHAT YOU GUYS THINK NOR SAY ABOUT HIM HE IS A GUY THAT LIKE TURTLE AND HAS MONNEY TO MAKE A MOVIE YOU GOT NO MONEY FOR A MOVIE SO CALM DOWM AND WAIT LIKE I AM AND WATCH THE FILM ps sorry for caps
uh ok..i actually said nothing about Bay as a person, just his directing and movie making style...and even then i said nothing bad about it, just that it doesn't fit the turtles universe


i even gave an example of a franchise i like that i felt Bay's style would work better for

you need to take a chill pill dude
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Old 05-06-2014, 07:53 PM   #35
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Yep. Transformers the cartoon was popular but nowhere near as popular as the Turtles and people flock to those movies.
I would argue that the concept of giant transforming robots fighting a war is a one that has a wider appeal regardless of whether you watched the cartoon or not.

Also I think not only did an entire generation of fans wait for a live action Transformers movie non-fans had little conception of what a Transformers movie should be hence why it's easy for Bay to play those movies like he does.

TMNT is different; firstly I think the concept doesn't quite have the same hook and while there a valid story embedded in the absurd we have the powers that be constantly meddling and piece by piece changing it until it no longer resembled TMNT.

Now that is a problem because the franchise was bigger than Transformers and people do have an idea of what a TMNT movie and those characters should be but again we're faced with everything being changed.
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Old 05-06-2014, 08:20 PM   #36
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this is what i think WHO CARES ABOUT MBAY IF HE MAKES THIS MOVIE GET OVER IT I DONT CARE WHAT YOU GUYS THINK NOR SAY ABOUT HIM HE IS A GUY THAT LIKE TURTLE AND HAS MONNEY TO MAKE A MOVIE YOU GOT NO MONEY FOR A MOVIE SO CALM DOWM AND WAIT LIKE I AM AND WATCH THE FILM ps sorry for caps
i like the typing in all caps and telling everyone else to calm down. haha.

truth be told i am trying to avoid most influences about the movie. when it comes out i'll form my opinion on it then. even Eastman essentially said he knows its a big change but hopes the nah sayer will come around and enjoy it when they see it. so personally i have no extreme feelings about the movie either way

Do i think it will bomb at the box office though. no not at all. its the TMNT, everyone excited about it will go see it and the majority of the people who think Bay will screw it up will go see it just to say "i told you so". i'm not saying it will be a great or a terrible movie but i do doubt it will Bomb simply because it is the turtles.
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Old 05-06-2014, 08:50 PM   #37
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this is what i think WHO CARES ABOUT MBAY IF HE MAKES THIS MOVIE GET OVER IT I DONT CARE WHAT YOU GUYS THINK NOR SAY ABOUT HIM HE IS A GUY THAT LIKE TURTLE AND HAS MONNEY TO MAKE A MOVIE YOU GOT NO MONEY FOR A MOVIE SO CALM DOWM AND WAIT LIKE I AM AND WATCH THE FILM ps sorry for caps
Michael Bay likes the turtles?

I've never heard him or anyone claim he likes the turtles. He's admitted more than once that he never liked Transformers but the concept had the potential for great visual appeal.

One thing he has said is that he dislikes comic book movies so the chances of him liking TMNT are pretty low.
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Old 05-06-2014, 08:59 PM   #38
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Michael Bay likes money and TMNT seemed like a good franchise to exploit.
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Old 05-06-2014, 09:00 PM   #39
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First this author is probably comparing the Turtlemania popularity of the Turtles to the current lukewarm popularity (Spongebob is still currently more popular than TMNT) of the Turtles today which is unfair (it still has to make its way to the adult mainstream, which this movie is trying to do now). The Nick cartoon still has a MAJOR way to go to come close to the Fred Wolf popularity, but if you take the recent Transformers movie in 2007, there was no current Transformers cartoon during that time and Transformers still did very well despite its critically unfavorable-to-mixed reception.

Personally, I don't like the direction of this movie either (execution and Turtle designs) but Bay's associated films are always successful. This movie will be financially successfully, but critically panned (like most/all Bay-associated films).

The only way things could dramatically change is if miraculously the storywriting is superb, or the storywriting is far worse than expected for a Bay film.
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Old 05-07-2014, 02:46 AM   #40
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Bay's style is the pollar oposite of the turtles.
Exactly. He is all about "in your face" action, which is not something, that could fit Turtles, IMO.
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