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Old 05-29-2014, 12:25 PM   #21
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Part two is out, where Kevin approaches the negative feelings about this movie: http://www.*************************...erview-part-2/

Basically, he says, once more is revealed, he thinks people will start liking it, and the people behind it really have a passion for the movie.
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One of the things that is so great about you Kevin is how positive you’ve been…There’s so much negativity online about the coming of the new NINJA TURTLES movie. Why do you think people are so focused on the negative in regards to the new TURTLES movie?

EASTMAN: Well, it’s a scary thing. Going back to when I was growing up and reading comic books…There was always different art teams and different writers working on the comics that I loved. If you liked a particular artist or a writer and what they had done, then when you got the next issue, and someone else was filling in for them, it would really frustrate you. Peter and I only did the first 16 issues of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles together before we started having guest artists come in. When we would have guest artists come in they would provide us with different ideas and different interpretations and different looks for the Turtles. We would say, “Well, that’s not exactly how we do it, but that’s really cool.”

When we worked on the first animated Turtles series, we understood that the characters needed to appeal to six-year-old children. We went from producing a black-and-white comic book to a full color animated series. It was Peter who came up with the idea for each of the Turtles to wear different colored eye bandanas. We were now writing for a different audience but we’ve always tried to maintain the feel and integrity of the original characters that we created.

The Turtles have been changed in everything that has been made with them. From the 1990 live-action Steve Barron movie, to the IDW series, to the Nickelodeon animated television series…Each version of the Turtles have had their own look and feel. Some of the Turtles mythology was changed for some of the shows over the years, and that was scary as hell when we were approached with those ideas. When we agreed to those types of changes we were worried that the fans would crucify us. We’ve taken chances with those types of things over the years. But we’ve always been proud of the fact that the integrity, heart and soul of those characters has always been present in every Turtles incarnation that has come over the last 30 years.



That goes for the upcoming NINJA TURTLES movie as well?

EASTMAN: It’s the same approach. When they approached me about the new movie we had 30 years of ideas to look through. I think it’s important to give these new Turtles a different look and feel that sets them apart from what is being done with the Turtles on the Nickelodeon animated series. We wanted to make the Turtles as cool as possible while at the same time creating a new beast onto itself. The script is great for the new movie.

I used to laugh…Every time I would visit Ciro Nieli at the animation studio he would say, “Here comes Obi-Wan”. I would look at what everyone was doing there for the Nick animated series and I would be so blown away that it would make me so excited for what they were doing with the Turtles. It’s the same thing with the new NINJA TURTLES (2014) movie. When I first sat down with Jonthan Liebesman and Michael Bay…These aren’t guys who want to do a Turtles movie for the money. These are very creative guys and their heart is really in the right place with the Turtles. They really want to create good stuff. That’s the most important part of it. If you do good stuff, then hopefully the fans will come out to support it. People are uncomfortable with the look of the Turtles now, but I think they’ll like them once more is revealed. I’m really happy with how the Turtles turned out in the new movie.
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Old 05-29-2014, 12:40 PM   #22
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You can read part 2 with the link below.
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Here's the part he talks about the movie
Freaking awesome Dude i love these interviews great stuff
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Old 05-29-2014, 01:11 PM   #23
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So really...it's just "yeah, there have been different stuff in the past. It's kinda scary. But once you see it, it's really cool. Trust us."

So it really doesn't answer anything. How about the questions people want to know? Like is it More of a Turtles movie, or is it more of a Humans movie ala The Transformers films?

And he just briefly mentions the looks...he just says "people are uncomfortable, but I think they'll like them once more revealed."

People aren't Uncomfortable. They just think that the Designs Look Awful. And the Looks are Already Revealed, Kevin...and a lot of folks think they look like Crap.
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Old 05-29-2014, 01:16 PM   #24
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It's a nice interview, but it doesn't give us a lot new information. Nor any actual dwelling into the new designs.

But, I'd be very happy with the action, if it's closer to classic Martial Arts movies.
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Old 05-29-2014, 01:23 PM   #25
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So really...it's just "yeah, there have been different stuff in the past. It's kinda scary. But once you see it, it's really cool. Trust us."
No. It really just means, TMNT has been tweaked or changed in EVERY incarnation at some point. It's evolution, it's versatility. He's telling whiny fan boys, attached to one version of the characters to get over yourself. If the co-creator is down with the changes, there isn't a reason for fans to be so outraged either.
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Old 05-29-2014, 01:27 PM   #26
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yes, criticizing poor designs is being a whiny fan boy. It's nice to see individuals of the "positive" side don't lower themselves to name calling... Oh, wait.
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Old 05-29-2014, 01:57 PM   #27
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Y'know, despite the apprehension I have for the film and despite this sounding like anything concrete beyond "just wait and see" I'm at least happy to hear his enthusiasm for it and how he relates it to the changes that were scary in the past.

I'm still not sold and I still don't like the new look, but I'm still willing to give it a chance if they show me enough to convince me it will be a solid film.

I have to admit, I do appreciate Eastman's optimism for all things TMNT, though. I may not agree with it all the time, but I really do appreciate it.

The big difference to me is when you get a different art style in the comics, you're stuck with it a few months, maybe a year. When you get a style you don't like in films, you're stuck with it for about a decade. I still don't like Optimus Prime's movie design being so complicated, but I'm going to be seeing it for more than a decade.
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Old 05-29-2014, 02:16 PM   #28
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You can read part 2 with the link below.
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Still doesn't really answer much for me.
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Old 05-29-2014, 04:11 PM   #29
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No. It really just means, TMNT has been tweaked or changed in EVERY incarnation at some point. It's evolution, it's versatility. He's telling whiny fan boys, attached to one version of the characters to get over yourself. If the co-creator is down with the changes, there isn't a reason for fans to be so outraged either.
You're right Chucker. How could we be so blind to evolution. We're all like TMNT creationists or something.
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... Like in how the T-Rex slowly evolved to the common chicken?
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Old 05-29-2014, 07:49 PM   #31
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You're right Chucker. How could we be so blind to evolution. We're all like TMNT creationists or something.
Nah, just think a lot of you guy's are irrational, and short sighted. Oh, and in specific cases, such as RamboRaph, Candy Kappa, Leo656, electric_sheep. Delusional as well. You guys make moutains out of mole hills over the stupidest reasons, can't see the forrest through the trees.
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Old 05-29-2014, 07:59 PM   #32
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There’s so much negativity online about the coming of the new NINJA TURTLES movie. Why do you think people are so focused on the negative in regards to the new TURTLES movie?
You know a big part of what irritates me about the Powers That Be with this movie? This attitude that all of the internet negativity is unwarranted - like we're all just being killjoys for the fun of it, and we're making a big deal over nothing and we should all just shut up.

Why couldn't they have had someone come out and say "You know what guys, the leaked script was crap, we went completely in the wrong creative direction with that one and we're glad that you all care enough about the Turtles to have this much of a strong reaction to it - we're going to make the best movie that we can for you."

Instead of just this high-handed, dismissive attitude of "we rewrote the script, now shut up and stop mentioning it and be happy with everything we give you cuz we know best." If they hadn't given us a reason to complain in the first place, there wouldn't be so much pre-existing skepticism towards the film. We have a legitimate right to be concerned.

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Nah, just think a lot of you guy's are irrational, and short sighted.
This is the kind of antagonism that makes things escalate into thread-lockery. Please try to stop making your arguments personal. It's not fair that the rest of us can't enjoy the forums just because some of you can't stop feuding.

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Old 05-29-2014, 08:33 PM   #33
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It is interesting to read Eastman's thoughts along side Laird's thoughts. With the former being far more invested in the TMNT franchise today than the latter.

One aspect I've grown to love about the Mirage TMNT is the vast variety of artists and stories. But the guest series of Vol. 1 was not all good. It had high points like Michael Zulli and Rick Veitch, but GOOD GOD nobody wanted to read Rich Hedden and Tom McWeeney's vision.

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It is interesting to read Eastman's thoughts along side Laird's thoughts. With the former being far more invested in the TMNT franchise today than the latter.

One aspect I've grown to love about the Mirage TMNT is the vast variety of artists and stories. But the guest series of Vol. 1 was not all good. It had high points like Michael Zulli and Rick Veitch, but GOOD GOD nobody wanted to read Rich Hedden and Tom McWeeney's vision.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Dw0lGl0uty...s1600/38-1.jpg
Oh gosh ... that comic was horrible. I felt uncomfortable and dirty, all the while turned off by the utter stupidness (which I believe it was meant to do). But, still, I really ... really didn't like that take.
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But the guest series of Vol. 1 was not all good. It had high points like Michael Zulli and Rick Veitch, but GOOD GOD nobody wanted to read Rich Hedden and Tom McWeeney's vision.

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Oh gosh ... that comic was horrible. I felt uncomfortable and dirty, all the while turned off by the utter stupidness (which I believe it was meant to do). But, still, I really ... really didn't like that take.
I haven't read that one... do I dare ask what they did?
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I particularly enjoyed this little snippet:

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When I first sat down with Jonthan Liebesman and Michael Bay…These aren’t guys who want to do a Turtles movie for the money. These are very creative guys and their heart is really in the right place with the Turtles. They really want to create good stuff. That’s the most important part of it. If you do good stuff, then hopefully the fans will come out to support it. People are uncomfortable with the look of the Turtles now, but I think they’ll like them once more is revealed. I’m really happy with how the Turtles turned out in the new movie.
Sweet interview.. So glad we are getting what we are getting. I'm glad that they picked these guys for this movie. I'm glad that my turtles look awesome and that they're gonna kick some royal backside in this film. I watched the first 1990 film today and realized that it's definitely not a masterpiece. It's my favorite TMNT film.. but the fight scenes weren't all that impressive.. The foot barely fought back.. It took like 50 foot to take Raph down lol.. I cant wait to see some real fight scenes with the Foot actually fighting back and the turtles using their weapons. I can't wait to see the expression on their faces during conversations in the new lair. Which is the most amazing lair I have ever seen in a turtle film. Every time I watch the trailer I get chills. Just 69 days left What an awesome exciting time to be a Turtles fan. I know we'll get an entire trilogy with these Turtles. That means we get to see these Turtles in action for the rest of the decade Hell yea.

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I know we'll get an entire trilogy with these Turtles. That means we get to see these Turtles for the rest of the decade Hell yea.
What a horrible time to be a TMNT fan that will probably be.
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What a horrible time to be a TMNT fan that will probably be.
For some.. Unfortunately. there's always next decade
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For some.. Unfortunately. there's always next decade
For most I'd say.

While I suppose the wait 'till I'm almost 40 to get something possibly better isn't horrible it seems like Bay is not letting go of Transformers, even bucking the recent trilogy trend so unless these movies don't perform well PD could have them for much longer.

Talk about a Faustian bargain Viacom has signed.
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Well, if it does good, and spins a trilogy. I may not be into the PD TMNT, but at least we who don't like them will get something in return with the money sprinkling onto projects we can enjoy. Similar like Transformers, hate the movies, but I do enjoy Animated. Prime and Fall for Cybertron, another game I like the designs far better then the movie

and who knows, maybe the story and choreography is great in the PD movie(s), and maybe I personally can enjoy the movies on that premise, despite the creature designs and other changes.
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