Splinter's MOVIE Origins...(Lego.com)

[Xiewin]

This is making my head hurt....

[NinjaPug]

So there is no Hamato Yoshi in this universe? Another ding against this movie.

Just lends more credence to the shadowy figure/Saki being nothing more than a throw in to try and appease fans. Saki being in this film won't make any sense with the butchered origin story in place.

[TigerClaw]

What if the DNA that Splinter was infused with, Was of someone name Hamato Yoshi?

Think about it, It could be anyone's DNA, So what if they happen upon some DNA of a man name Hamato Yoshi?

[Bry]

Originally Posted by SwiftNinjaFox

It could be if they don't like the look of the film, didn't like the reviews, didn't like their trusted friends' opinions, and chose to pass on this version of the turtles.

Or they plan to see it on Netflix, etc because they're broke but don't care about spoilers!

Am I a fake Ninja Turtles fan because I couldn't get through the first episode of Next Mutation?

Oh awesome, are we doing the "true fan" thing again? (I only caught that reply because your quote got it past my ignore list.)

Let's raise the "true fan" level, though, why don't we? Here's what I propose: The new definition of a "true fan" is anyone who signs over every single one of their paycheques to the Viacom corporation and also drives to Michael Bay's house every Saturday morning to thoroughly wash each of his cars with silk cloths and an extra-soft-bristle toothbrush as a "thank you" for producing a TMNT movie, whether or not they personally enjoy it. Everyone who doesn't meet that criteria is banned from pulling the "true fan" card. Shall we take it to a vote?

Originally Posted by TigerClaw

What if the DNA that Splinter was infused with, Was of someone name Hamato Yoshi?

Think about it, It could be anyone's DNA, So what if they happen upon some DNA of a man name Hamato Yoshi?

I'd be surprisingly fine with this if Eric Sachs actually just happens upon a vial labelled "Hamato Yoshi's DNA", shrugs, and injects it into a lab rat.

[SwiftNinjaFox]

I'm still assuming the mention of receiving a soul suggests Yoshi's reincarnation angle from IDW.

[TurtleTitan97]

Originally Posted by MrTMNT2012

Because that's what a true Ninja Turtles fan does...

You can't be serious...

If being a 'true Ninja Turtles fan' means supporting some movie that doesn't look that great to some people, then count me out. I guess that means I've been wasting time watching the cartoons, movies, playing the games, and reading the comics.

[Y2Bogus]

Originally Posted by SwiftNinjaFox

A rat learning by watching a guy do it is just goofy as hell, yes.

And that's why I'm a fan of the Splinter = Hamato Yoshi origin. It's not AS goofy as the others.

[Slap-Happy]

I think it's Mr Chang who is probably an alien or some kind of disfigured business man who is trying to make armor for soldiers. Eric Sachs helps him make the armor stronger and falls in love with it and becomes Shredder.

This doesn't fit with what we've seen. There are images of Sachs with the ancient Shredder armor behind him. Hell, some of that is in the trailer.

Unless Mr. Chang is making ancient Japanese armor for soldiers.

[chrisdude]

Man, who is Chang? Did we just make that up? I'm surprised we didn't all just agree that the guy from the trailer is Saki. I mean, he looks like he's wearing a gi, his face is all messed up. What else do you want? For months, people have been cooking up the craziest ideas for how Saki could fit in, and now we're all skeptical?


As for the Splinter origin, if that's what it is...

Originally an experimental lab rat exposed to ninja sensory training, Splinter was injected with a DNA-infused mutagen that gave him sentience, thoughts and a soul. After an unfortunate event at the lab, Splinter and four unlikely box turtles suddenly found themselves building their new home in the sewers.

It says the injection game Splinter "sentience, thoughts and a soul." It doesn't say anything about physical mutation, or the turtles. Then it says, "after an unfortunate event at the lab..." So, it sounds to me like creating giant animal people was not the plan, and the "unfortunate event" is an accident.

Splinter can be given "sentience, thoughts and a soul," by injection, making him like the Splinter of the 1990 movie - capable of learning ninjutsu, and caring for baby turtles - before being mutated. Then, the "unfortunate event" can mutate the five of them, and Splinter raises the turtles like a person would raise children.

Makes sense to me, and it doesn't ruin the origin.

[Candy Kappa]

Ninja sensory training isn't far off, as I'm sure "Ninja" is being treated as it's always been treated in American pop-culture, especially in movies. And, rats are quick to learn, very smart creatures. I guess "thoughts and a soul" is just simplified kids talk to tell splinter got more like a human, as it sounds kinda douchey implying that animals don't have a soul. If you are going to incorporate the concept of souls, it really should be something all living creature encompass, like in the IDW comic.

And the Turtles are now Box Turtles in this movie apparently... Okay. I'd prefer Sliders, but. As Box Turtles, although having a lot of characteristics of tortoises (land dwelling and domed shells ect) are still turtles. But, I think tortoises and Box Turtles makes bad bipedal Chelonians due to the domed shell... Alas, nit picking I suppose.

It's going to be interesting to see what the conflict between Splinter and the Turtles are against Shredder and the Foot Clan. I do hope it's something more deeper then just the Foot being the baddies and the Turtles are just the Vigilantes that happens to stop their shenanigans.

[IndigoErth]

exposed to ninja sensory training

Wut? lol

Sounds like either a) we're trying to hard too sound professional when what we mean is we made a rat watch people train or b) we actually put electrodes in his brain to zap him into ninja poses/moves. o.O

Hope the Turtles keep away from water... I think box turtles drown. And being humanoid prob wouldn't help against the weight of that shell.

[samxsteal]

Seriously People

It's clearly taken from IDW, hes a lab rat(Reincarnation, Yoshi's pet turn lab rat, ect ect) , And will obviously have a connection to Oroku Saki, Why would they add his whole back story into a tiny little Bio on a lego site,

People seriously "have" to find every little thing to pick apart, seriously

And people only think Chang is Krang because of a IMDB listing Which is kind reaching IMO,

And why make Chang aka Krang look exactly like Nick shredder? that makes no sense.

[RedRocBoy]

Originally Posted by samxsteal

Seriously People

It's clearly taken from IDW, hes a lab rat(Reincarnation, Yoshi's pet turn lab rat, ect ect) , And will obviously have a connection to Oroku Saki, Why would they add his whole back story into a tiny little Bio on a lego site,

People seriously "have" to find every little thing to pick apart, seriously

And people only think Chang is Krang because of a IMDB listing Which is kind reaching IMO,

And why make Chang aka Krang look exactly like Nick shredder? that makes no sense.

Again It's the internet. These fools don't have to make sense. It's really sad. Movie isn't out yet guys. Let's wait to actually see what the story is before you pick it apart.

[Andrew NDB]

I dunno... I think he's still Mac "Splinter" O'Neil.

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by RedRocBoy

Again It's the internet. These fools don't have to make sense. It's really sad. Movie isn't out yet guys. Let's wait to actually see what the story is before you pick it apart.

nope that to much to ask for. lol. I think its cool i wish they would have put there own movie section on the lego site

[SwiftNinjaFox]

I just started getting too excited that things looked better and realized the more excited I get the more chance for me to be devastated by a disaster of a movie like I was with Transformers.

Then I started getting nervous that I might be giving too much credit where credit is due.

But in this case, I think Sam's on point. It does sound like the IDW origin. The experiments on Splinter giving him sentience, leading to his realization he was Homato Yoshi in a past life (or believing he is, you can argue that all you like and side with Donatello's skepticism ), etc. and then the mutagen is an accident.

Of course, then we have to figure out how Saki is still around if that was feudal Japan. I doubt they'll do the whole hibernation angle with Kitsune. That's just too much mysticism for them to get into, I think. But we have the feudal Japanese armor (unless it's passed down through the Foot Clan) and that scroll with turtles and utroms in ancient Japan....

Still up in the air what Sachs was doing with the creating heroes line. Also still unclear why they've said Sachs is Shredder, Sachs is Americanized Saki, Sachs is the main villain only to "lol wut, nah guys, Oroku Saki's armor." That part is still confusing.

Unless they were just straight up trolling the fans for the lulz.

[RedRocBoy]

Originally Posted by samxsteal

nope that to much to ask for. lol. I think its cool i wish they would have put there own movie section on the lego site

Yeah that would've been dope.

[CyberCubed]

Now I know what people mean when they said they're "destroying my childhood."

I never used that phrase myself until this movie existed.

[Xiewin]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Now I know what people mean when they said they're "destroying my childhood."

I never used that phrase myself until this movie existed.

Please dont start with that "destroying my childhood" mess, Its annoying.

[Bry]

Originally Posted by RedRocBoy

Again It's the internet. These fools don't have to make sense.

Y'know what my favourite part of these threads is? How incredibly polite and civil everyone is, on either side of the fence, and how nobody throws around insults and disrespectful comments over something as trivial as movie speculation.