If you could create your own incarnation of the TMNT

[victory_angel]

Not all incarnations of the Turtles appeal to everyone.

So lets say for example you were given the ability to create your own incarnation of the Turtles.

Would you do it as a TV series, Film (live action or animated), anime, Comic book? How would the plot go? Would Splinter be Hamato Yoshi or would he be a pet rat of Hamato Yoshi?

[Powder]

A concept for the TMNT I came up with. Basically, the idea here is that their story would take place in 16th century feudal Japan. Their sensei, is Hamato Yoshi, a wise old monk, who raised them at his monastery, in secret. They're not mutants, but rather guardians of the earth, sent by the gods. Yoshi keeps them hidden, for fear of their safety, but trains them physically, & shapes their minds in the higher arts. Splinter is a mere pet rat, one who Donatello keeps with him at almost all times. Donnie would be the outcast of the group, keeping to himself, often silent. Leo is his traditional Bushido self, but also a spiritual guide/healer. Raph's the muscle. Still very much the enforcer of the group (in battle, at least), but despite his harsh appearance, he's more of a gentle giant. Mikey is a sort of Sumo/Chef/Calligraphist. More defensive than offensive. Rather than pizza, they go nuts over riceballs. I'd like to flesh this out more & make a comic of it someday, but who knows. It'd be sorta like Souls Winter meets Usagi Yojimbo.

See the full sized hi-res version here- http://powderakacaseyjones.deviantar...ruzu-462952538

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Well, I sort of already have with my fan-fics, but if I had my choice of format for it, I'd go with a cartoon series (anime, and DEF a "mature" rating) or a comic. It would be cool as a movie, but maybe too mature and dark for most audiences, especially kids.

My version was based off a cross between the original movie origin, and the OT one, with Splinter being Yoshi's pet, but nixed Shen and used the cartoon's version of Saki usurping Yoshi's position as clan leader through deception and framing him for an assassination attempt. Splinter was witness to it all, and was later left homeless when Saki was ousted by the Grandmaster when his plot was uncovered (Yoshi had sent a letter with evidence of Saki's treachery that proved his innocence) and Saki not only killed the Grandmaster and half the clan, but then followed Yoshi (and Splinter) to New York and killed him as well. The rest of the clan chose to follow Saki- now Shredder- and he met and partnered with Krang during that time. The turtles (and Splinter) were mutated by a mutagen canister that Krang had attempted to send to Shredder, but somehow was misdirected and ended up in the sewer.

I've added a few elements from other series, too, like Bishop, or Hun and the Purple Dragons, the Battle Nexus, and even borrowed Xever and Fong from Nick, among other things. But mostly it is based around elements from the three LA movies and the OT.

[miru]

I'd do it as a series of browser adventure games. The story begins with Dr. Baxter Stockman buying four turtles and a salamander for his daughter. When he arrives home with the four, and his newly built Mouser robot, his home has been ransacked by the Kraang alien race, seeking to perform experiments outside of the oppressive grip of the Utrom race. He finds his daughter slathered in a weird ooze, and decides to introduce her to the salamander to cheer her up. She touches it, and begins to mutate. In a frenzied panic, she touches the four turtles, and they end up turning into the monstrous warriors Slash, Tokka, Terrorpin, and Gigaia. Gigaia lays five eggs, each a different hue.

The girl fully mutates into Mona Lisa, and the salamander becomes Diogenes. Mona Lisa, Diogenes, and Gigaia are captured by the Kraang aliens, who decide to use them for experiments. Begging to let his daughter live, Baxter decides to work under them. Slash, Tokka, and Terrorpin are impressed by the Kraang's military might and decide to join them. Baxter is moved to an office job, working in a cubicle with the Newtralizer, an ex-pro wrestler from the Kraang's home dimension.

Meanwhile, a disgraced ninja master named Hamato Yoshi is looking for a way to redeem himself after his murder of Oroku Nagi. He blames the deaths of his family on Oroku Nagi's death, and decides to seek redemption in the big city. Diogenes and Mona Lisa escape Kraang control, but not before the doom of Gigaia, who is torn apart by Terrorpin. Diogenes and Mona Lisa decide to live in the sewers after being chased by Agent Bishop out of their old home. Hamato Yoshi runs afoul of the sewers, just as the eggs hatch open to reveal bizarre, monstrous THINGS.

The contents of the pink egg especially disturb Yoshi, as Diogenes offers him the other four, but chooses to keep the pink one. Yoshi takes the newly-hatched turtles to his home. Yoshi raises the turtles as his sons, but is discovered by Bishop.

[victory_angel]

I'm currently writing this as a film script.

The origin would be similar to the Mirage story where Oroku Nagi appears and beats Tang Shen. However it is implied that Nagi and his younger brother Oroku Saki (Saki being 18 years old and not a 7 year old kid) have their way with her not just kill her.

Hamato Yoshi arrives and fights the two honorless men. Oroku Saki attacks Hamato Yoshi from behind, Splinter tries to defend his master by attacking his Saki, but is unable to prevent it. The dying Hamato Yoshi kills Nagi before succumbing to his wounds.

Alone and homeless Splinter makes a burrow for himself in the sewers until he finds the Turtles. The five of them are mutated. Learning that his masters Murder has left the Japan for America, Splinter and his sons who are now toddlers board as ship bound for America.

Years later April O'Neil is working at Stockman industries who are perfecting a bipedal machine called the Mousers. While passing stockman's office, she hears Stockman telling someone that the mousers have been augmented from their original purpose. April is confused by this because the original function was to help diminish the rat population.

So she looks up the skimatics and finds they are not only been changed to retrieve valuables such as money, and jewery. They also can chew there way into buildings (or a tank) and be used as IEDs, or as weapons of war. Knowing she couldn't allow these bots she downloads the data onto a Flashdrive. In an effort to avoid detection she escapes into the sewers. Unfortunately Stockman learns there was an unauthorized download and finds footage of April escaping into the sewers.

In the lair Mike and Raph arrive with a pizza that they have used their ninja skills to swipe. Leo scolds Mikey that their skills were not meant to be used in that way, but Mikey retorts about how it's not like they could just waltz into a grocery store whenever they wanted.

Leo decides to get Donnie who is sitting at his computer scanning the sewer system. Leo has to place a hand in front of his brothers eyes to get his attention and chides his brother about how he's a ninja and should by all rights sense him coming.

Before they go enjoy their dinner the computers catch the sound of April screaming for help. Donnie calls up where there voice is coming from and sees the mousers run by. Both Donnie and Mikey feel they should do something about this.

Raph insists it has nothing to do with them and besides if they go help this woman they risk being seen.

Leo however says that may be so, but they also don't want any one human or robot to come upon their lair. So they go out to stop the robots. In the dark of the sewers can't see who her rescuers are all that well. But she can discern inhuman shapes and asks who they are before Raph knocks her out.

When she wakes up she is on a bench in the park, the wounds she had received from the mousers have been dressed and the flashdrive with the mouser data is gone.

Back at the lair, Donnie is studying the remains of one of the mousers and the data from the mousers on the flashdrive. He points out that that someone known as the Shredder pops up a number of times. Splinter suggests his sons keep an eye on the woman to see what she knows about these machines and the Shredder.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

I really like that! But how do they get mutated? Or is that mystery something to be answered later?

[Redeemer]

Originally Posted by Powder

A concept for the TMNT I came up with. Basically, the idea here is that their story would take place in 16th century feudal Japan. Their sensei, is Hamato Yoshi, a wise old monk, who raised them at his monastery, in secret. They're not mutants, but rather guardians of the earth, sent by the gods. Yoshi keeps them hidden, for fear of their safety, but trains them physically, & shapes their minds in the higher arts. Splinter is a mere pet rat, one who Donatello keeps with him at almost all times. Donnie would be the outcast of the group, keeping to himself, often silent. Leo is his traditional Bushido self, but also a spiritual guide/healer. Raph's the muscle. Still very much the enforcer of the group (in battle, at least), but despite his harsh appearance, he's more of a gentle giant. Mikey is a sort of Sumo/Chef/Calligraphist. More defensive than offensive. Rather than pizza, they go nuts over riceballs. I'd like to flesh this out more & make a comic of it someday, but who knows. It'd be sorta like Souls Winter meets Usagi Yojimbo.

See the full sized hi-res version here- http://powderakacaseyjones.deviantar...ruzu-462952538
http://i61.tinypic.com/6f369c.png

Really awesome idea, i feel like the turtles should be slightly smaller like the same size as they are in the upcoming movie. bc the size of these designs they are definitely not Ninja-esk.

[victory_angel]

Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

I really like that! But how do they get mutated? Or is that mystery something to be answered later?

ext. City street, Japan. Day

Rain is pouring in the city as a small boy is riding his bike down the street. In the front basket of the bike is a glass jar containing four small turtles. The child suddenly loses his balance and the jar with the turtles in it rolls into the street. The boy runs into the road to retrieve his pets, but a speeding truck approaches them. The truck swerves to avoid the child. In the confusion the jar of turtles is swept into a the sewers and a canister of ooze falls off the truck. It cracks open and the greenish muck flows into the sewers.

Int. City Sewers-Japan-Day

The ooze flows down into the city sewers covering the four turtles. Splinter notices them. Splinter picks up each of the Turtles and puts them in a coffee can. He doesn't notice he is also being covered by the ooze as well.

[Shark_Blade]

Movie series.

TV series is too burdensome. Splinter will definitely be mutated from a man named Hamato Yoshi into a rat. I'd never touch "pet rat turned master ninja" origin.

[Wildcat]

Off the top of my head, how about...

The Krang are an alien race, like now, but not everyone is evil. They all live under the rule of their king. One day a garbage krang transporting waste (mutagen) crashes on earth, NY. Not being able to fix his ship or communicate back he secretly lives in the dump.

In this the krang have more traditional bodies and are not brain shaped heads in exo-suits. They're still pink and weird looking though.

Roaming the city he studies humans and their way of life. One day he finds someone has thrown out 4 eggs. He picks them up and takes them back to his hideout where they hatch and out come 4 baby turtles.

Not being able to have any friends he cares for the turtles. However one day they wonder into his ship and accidentally spill the waste (mutagen) onto themselves. He cleans them off but not knowing the effects of his alien waste on earth creatures, the turtles begin to grow.

They all live in the dump/junkyard where they watch old movies on old TVs people have thrown out. The turtles take a liking to martial arts movies and mimic them with makeshift weapons from the junkyard. - End

Ok before anyone gets all upset I thought of this off the top of my head and more importantly its meant as a more lighthearted cartoon idea. The garbage Krang would be goofy and nice and the turtles would more like fun-loving anthropomorphic characters that wanna fight crime. Don't take this seriously.

[Slap-Happy]

Think something like IDW, with less mutants and call-back reference-y stuff.

[pennydreadful]

There are some cool ideas in here...

[Toby Barrett]

Really, I just like the idea of a mish mash of a little bit of everything, like in the arcade games, Turtles in Time, ect.

[BubblyShell22]

Ooh, an interesting topic. Here's mine:

Hamato Yoshi and Oroku Saki are raised together after Saki's father is killed by the Hamato clan. Saki knows nothing of this and is best friends with Yoshi. They meet a girl named Tang Shen who becomes friends with them. As time goes on, both boys have feelings for her, and she isn't sure which one she wants to choose. Saki asks her out and takes her on a date, but she really doesn't feel anything for him so she lets him down gently. He is angry but pretends to accept it. Yoshi then asks her out, and she goes on a date with him and chooses him. They eventually marry and have a daughter they name Miwa. Meanwhile, Saki is consumed by hatred that Shen didn't choose him. He overhears some clan members talking and they reveal that Saki's father was killed by Yoshi's father. Enraged, he rebuilds the Foot Clan and seeks vengeance on Yoshi and his family. During a fight, Shen is killed, and while Yoshi is fighting for her, a candle is knocked over, causing the house to be burned. Miwa is also lost, but what Yoshi doesn't know is that Saki takes her for his own, thinking that he will have one piece of his lost love left. Heartbroken over his loss, Yoshi flees to America.

While on a walk through New York's streets, he encounters four young boys who have run away from a foster home. He takes them in and decides to raise them as his own. One day, he decides that they should have pets so that they will know what responsibility is like and what it will be like for them to take care of something on their own. He takes them to a pet store and they each choose a turtle to care for their own. They beg Yoshi to buy a pet too, so he chooses a rat. As the family is leaving the pet store, they bump into some men carrying canisters of some glowing green substance. The men pass by them, but one of the boys is curious and wants to go after them, causing Yoshi and the others to go after him. The boy tries to talk to the man, but the man turns and bumps into the little boy, dropping the canister which falls onto the boy who is holding his turtle. Enraged, Yoshi immediately begins fighting the man, but others come and try to intervene. During the fight, more canisters are spilled, falling on the other boys and Yoshi himself. All of them are changed into mutated turtles and a mutated rat. They flee into the sewers and take residence there for the time being. Yoshi changes his name to Splinter and raises his sons in the ways of ninjitsu.

And that's pretty much all I have for the origin story. I'm thinking of turning this into a fan fic and expanding on it further.

[rickwj324]

Originally Posted by Powder

A concept for the TMNT I came up with. Basically, the idea here is that their story would take place in 16th century feudal Japan. Their sensei, is Hamato Yoshi, a wise old monk, who raised them at his monastery, in secret. They're not mutants, but rather guardians of the earth, sent by the gods. Yoshi keeps them hidden, for fear of their safety, but trains them physically, & shapes their minds in the higher arts. Splinter is a mere pet rat, one who Donatello keeps with him at almost all times. Donnie would be the outcast of the group, keeping to himself, often silent. Leo is his traditional Bushido self, but also a spiritual guide/healer. Raph's the muscle. Still very much the enforcer of the group (in battle, at least), but despite his harsh appearance, he's more of a gentle giant. Mikey is a sort of Sumo/Chef/Calligraphist. More defensive than offensive. Rather than pizza, they go nuts over riceballs. I'd like to flesh this out more & make a comic of it someday, but who knows. It'd be sorta like Souls Winter meets Usagi Yojimbo.

See the full sized hi-res version here- http://powderakacaseyjones.deviantar...ruzu-462952538
http://i61.tinypic.com/6f369c.png

That is pretty freakin' sweet!! I would love to see this fleshed out into a mini-series of comics.

[neatoman]

I thought about it. I think I would try to return the characters to being ruthless anti-heroes just to see how the world would react to it.

What I would do is adapt the whole Triceraton/Fugitoid arc into a lower budget (let's face it, the only way Viacom would allow a violent version is if it was low budget) animated movie in the vein of something like Heavy Metal or mid-90's anime. I might work in Casey and April into the story somehow.

Another idea is a cartoon that might have the turtles start out as humans with other signifigant alterations just to see how it would work out.

In both cases, damn whatever the popular opinion might be, I'd just like to challenge the majority perception of the Turtles!

[Panda_Kahn_fan]

-Anime series, with actual japanese writers.

-IDW Origin, with the small change that Splinter is the reincarnation of Yoshi, but the TMNT aren't his four sons. Time span lengthened to 15 years

-TMNT were not raised as weapons of vengence, but instead were taught the skills of Ninjitsu to protect themselves in a world that could never accept them.

-Turtles are not super heroes, but rather like traditional ninja heroes from Japanese folklore, like Ishikawa Geomon- Robin Hood types. Relied more on being sabotouers and stealth, and leave the hollywood 'gritty ninja assasin' B.S. in western orentalist fiction where it belongs.

-Borrow eaqually from every source (4kids, Archie, Fred Wolf, Mirage) for characters, for tone go slightly darker that IDW- No disembowlings, cyborg turtles, beer drinking and cursing, etc. Putting those things into a TMNT story does not make it mature.

-Turtles do kill, but only in self defense, or defense of others. On screen kills are lightning qiuck, clean, and precise like the ninja of folkore is supposed to be, not leaving blood and guts spilled everywhere just to show how 'gritty and badazz' they are.

-Use the personality traits from other fiction- Mikey's surfer attitude, Leo actually embracing honor and wishing he were a Samurai instead of a Ninja, etc. Raph's more a sracastic prick than angry jerk.

-Pizza would be present but not obsessed over. (Pizza Boxes scattered all around the lair, show them eating it often, etc. But kill the obsessive references to it all the time)

-Cycle of vengence THEMES present, but not main focus. Upon learning of Shredder's ressurection, Yoshi must balance his desire for revenge for the loss of Tang shen and his sons, against the safety of his new family, and the consequences for the turtles of taking the shredder down.

-Use of the multicolored headbands. Clan colors are a celtic cultural trait, not a Japanese one. Colors were based on one's mood and personality, or the season or occasion. They had nothing to do with clan affiliation.

Aaaand that's about it for now!

[pingclang]

I don't have my own ideas for a new incarnation, I think Mirage was good enough.

[Allio]

Oh boy, you put me on the spot like this. Just springing the question on me like this? It’s not like I have been thinking about this for awhile or anything…let me just think of what comes to my mind. As for what way to bring the idea to life, I wouldn’t care.

Spoiler:

The first chapter/episode is set up after what would be considered 2 seasons worth of story, the shredder is supposedly dead and the first scene is the turtles fighting against Karai and the Foot Ninja. The city has already had the mutation spill (ie, Nick TMNT season 2 opener) and Mutants are already on the streets, some are already trying living normal lives.

The Ooze – according to Krang, the ooze is the essence of what the humans would call “The primordial pool” as it was harvested from earth long, long ago and is infact the reason for evolution of mankind.
- Super Mutation – After Baxter Stockman is given the chance to work with “The Primordial Ooze” he creates a condensed crystalized ooze substance that would temporarily give a mutant a new form (ex. Dogpound into Rahzar, Fish face into Armagon). The “Super Mutation” can and should only be used on mutants that used to be human, as it amplifies on the mutant’s basic needs -Man’s free will is amplified, while an animal will return them to relying on their primal nature. Raphael at one point takes the pill to save his brothers and becomes “Gameraph” (Think of the Donatello monster episode from the 2k3 series)
- Anti-mutagen – Created by Donatello – as of now. It is what it sounds, created to return those that were mutated into their first lives. This would end up being used on Raphael after he goes Gameraph, returning him to a normal turtle* *See Bloodsucker

Turtles – (as of now, not really much developed for now)
- Raphael - once against the angered one, this time a little more harder to control. When in need to cool off his head, he head’s to Spiderbytz’s tavern for a drink and/or mutant bar fight. Has almost a love/hate relationship with Mona Lisa. One of the things that really calms his nerves is listening to “Mondo Gecko’s” music.
- Michealangelo – much closer to the comic counterparts than the cartoon versions
- Donatello – at one points starts hearing/seeing a person he believes is Aprils - this will lead to a Same as it Never Was story line. Blames himself for turning Raphael into a normal turtle.

Splinter – pet Rat of Yoshi, lost his family: Yoshi, Tengshen and Miwa…at least so he thought. More or less the same as any Splinter

Allies (outside of April and Casey)
- Spiderbytz – runs a tavern for mutants and humans in the more deserted place of Newyork, always around to give new mutants a helping hand. Also there to give Raphael an ear to listen to when the turtle doesn’t feel like anyone else will hear him out.
- “Mondo Gecko” *Name pending for change* - the guitar playing Gecko mutant that one would picture singing on the side of the street for passerbys to drop money into his guitar case – this feels like a good modern version of the original version. Mondo’s music would be one of Raphael’s way of trying to lose some steam by just trying to listen to the calming melody.
- Mona Lisa, original name “Lisa” – a Con-artist since she was human, usually always wearing her hair down; save for the time when she is working she uses her scarf to put her hair into a pony-tail – this is what she looked like when she first meets Raphael. She has a “cat-woman” attitude.
- Ninjara – (still have to read the archie issues to see what I can get) essentially she makes a connection with Donatello in a Old meets Technology kind of way. Might have a connection with Tiger Claw
- “Venus” – Not able to grasp her own life, she is more or less controlled by one of four imprisoned creatures “Dragon Skull,” she temporarily stays with the turtles under the guise of a homeless mutant. She is actually the daughter of another member of the four “Genbu” making her a non-mutant. (don’t have much going from here)
- Leatherhead
- The Utroms – more or less Mirage Utroms, came to earth after The Kraang
- The Nightwatcher – a Red-X like character that steals Raphael’s Nightwatcher suit
Villains

Foot Clan
- The Shredder – essentially the same story as usually. He has two adopted daughters; one he is strict with, the youngest he treats as his little princess.
- Karai – Shredder’s eldest daughter…more or less typical Karai, hates her little sister.
- Miwa – Shredder’s youngest daughter, real daughter of Hamato Yoshi. Shredder’s little princess, plays the part really well. She doesn’t do any of the fighting; instead she has the Elite Ninja do the fighting for her (all on the Turtles level). She gets confronted about the truth about Yoshi being her real father – she reveals that she already knew, her dad told her everything when she was young…She just doesn’t care, after all being with Saki meant she could have everything. Essentially she is a *itch. At one point when all the foot ninja leaves her to die, she has a mental break down.
- Bradford/Dogpound

The Purple Dragons
- Hun – the leader
- Xever/Fishface
The Family – consist of the 13 non-mutants Cryptids
Silver Back, the Yeti Cryptid – Runs an underground mutant fighting ring, mutants ranging from mindless squirllanoids to other gang mutants that come for the money. To mirror Splinter he too believes that family is the utmost importance, is even the one to tell Raphael to leave the underground mutant fight and return to his family. Keeps his leashed “Guard dog” by him at all time in case he is attacked. If needed be, Silver can easily hold his own with his Monstrous strength.
- Alopex – a child mutant whom is Silver’s own personal “guard dog.” Unlike most mutants, she is 100% animal in mind, going feral whenever her leash is taken off of her. As the series goes on, she begins opening more up and actually being able to make her own decisions thanks to a certain incident with the turtles. Inspired by Jet Li’s “Unleashed”

The Kraang – a group of Utroms that broke away from their home planet, lead by the warlord Krang.
- Krang – is the one to bring the Primordial Ooze back to earth

Baxter Stockman – The man with a God complex, things are made even worse when Krang gives him some of the Primordial ooze for experiments.

Ch’rell – read my signature. The one to release the primordial ooze on Newyork. Ch’rell works for about anyone, but will always be the one to backstabs his partners. At one time has a giant war suit to take on Krang (the 2k14 Shredder movie suit)

The four great demons - four demons that were sealed away long ago,
- Seiryu, otherwise known as “Dragon Skull” – The demon in the mirror, that thing that may catch your eye in your reflection. From his prison he is trying to use “Venus” to unseal him and his “brothers”
- Genbu – Venus’ father

“Ultimate Draco + Lord Simultaneous” – A silent Dragonman whom is the lord or time


Blood Sucker - essen

still working on story/episode ideas...will make a second post for that

[Konchadunga]

Finally, a thread where I can discuss my awesome plan!

For a long time now, I have intended to create a fanfiction/graphic novel poking fun of how different some of the TMNT incarnations are; as well as the notion that the further an adaptation gets from the source material, the tamer. So mine would be even more different than Fred Wolf, even more pizza-obsessed, yet also plenty violent and bloody. Get ready for this:

Leonardo, Donatello, Michelangelo, and Raphael are the sons of an Italian, blue-collar family of turtles that runs a pizzeria in Anhattan, a city inhabited by anthropomorphic animals. Their parents, hoping for their sons to have a better economic lot in life than they did, named them after famous Italian artists, and hope for the brothers to become artists as well.

They all do their duty well, but somewhere along the line, a villain--I think he'll be a weasel, but maybe I'll be subversive and make him a non-threatening animal--kills their parents.

The four turtles fall in with Master Splinter, the rat who owns a dojo and secretly holds his own grudge against the evil weasel/non-threatening animal, and trains the turtles in the martial arts to take him down. Soon, the turtles arm themselves with various cooking utensils from their pizzeria, and flat-out massacre the villain and his forces with them.

We later cut to them attending their parents' funeral with Splinter, talking about how life is hard, but he says, "You made them proud. You have become artists. Martial artists." The turtles all yell, "Cowabunga!" and dig into a delicious pizza they made from the villain's blood and flesh.