Did the backlash cause them to backtrack on aliens Turtles and white Shredder?

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

Originally Posted by samxsteal

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yup Real human looking Sarcasm

to be fair sam they have human facial features..you cant deny that

Mikey still has a very pronounced nose of the 4

...and its clear the very humanoid faces we originally saw, have been toned down since the first trailer

[Leo656]

To be fair, it's cool that some of people's opinions have made a difference along the way. At least they sort of listen.

But the flip side is... do they really need to be hand-held through some of this stuff? Aren't they the professionals? They're supposed to know the audience before getting backed into a corner where they have to make fourth-quarter changes, whether it's just the faces or more than that.

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by Leo656

To be fair, it's cool that some of people's opinions have made a difference along the way. At least they sort of listen.

But the flip side is... do they really need to be hand-held through some of this stuff? Aren't they the professionals? They're supposed to know the audience before getting backed into a corner where they have to make fourth-quarter changes, whether it's just the faces or more than that.

The fact That you people Really Believe you Actually made any difference at all IS Hilarious. What ever helps you sleep at night and if it really make you feel better about the movie Believing that then by all means. But really its kind of a ridiculous Notion. lol

-Boston-
I seriously Doubt the "changes" are because of fans. Being reworked to reach a goal is more likely. Cuz lets face it Leo and mikey still look the same in those shots which mean they used those shots because the animation was finally Finished. If they really "reworked" the turtles looks, then those shots would have changed as well and they haven't.

[Leo656]

Try not to take this as a shot, but what's hilarious is, you don't know how movies are made, apparently, yet you insist you know more than people who do. A few people who've actually worked on movies have gone over the same points I have, repeatedly, to state that the kind of thing you say is "impossible" happens ALL the time. So whether anything like that happened on THIS movie isn't entirely the point - the point is, when you say that stuff that is routine in Hollywood couldn't possibly have happened here, well... you're wrong. It absolutely could have, and to at least some degree, did. They were gonna be aliens. Disbelieve all you want. They were aliens until enough people bitched. Anything else they say is a lie.

By the way, you dropped these.

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by Leo656

Try not to take this as a shot, but what's hilarious is, you don't know how movies are made, apparently, yet you insist you know more than people who do. A few people who've actually worked on movies have gone over the same points I have, repeatedly, to state that the kind of thing you say is "impossible" happens ALL the time. So whether anything like that happened on THIS movie isn't entirely the point - the point is, when you say that stuff that is routine in Hollywood couldn't possibly have happened here, well... you're wrong. It absolutely could have, and to at least some degree, did. They were gonna be aliens. Disbelieve all you want. They were aliens until enough people bitched. Anything else they say is a lie.

By the way, you dropped these.
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That only Assumptions Where they aliens at one point sure But they had already started in the direction og reworking the script long before Internet outcry. SO again You can assume You made and impact, if it makes you feel better.

Can changes be made yes Is it likely with this movie Just because some people Complain. Heck Mbay is Known for just saying F#$% it And doing what he wants So if this is "his" movie in all his glory, I doubt he would care really, Look at TF4 "fans" hated it trashed it still trash it but facts are they saw it and so did millions more. lol.

With all this new new Like this Japanese folk lore Starting to market, I seriously doubt that was only planned out and changed only months ago thing like that need time.

And i still trust the people i know who work on movie over Biased people on these boards So sorry I dont Conform and jump to conclusion about this movie like some people.

Meh again believe what you want to. we will know in 2.5 weeks

[Leo656]

We'll see the movie in 2.5 weeks. We won't know the real deal on what went down behind the scenes until it all comes out in the dirt sheets, brotherrrrrr.

That could be years. But we'll know one day. And people should listen to me. I'm right about everything. I'm so quick I'm even fast asleep, my dude.

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by Leo656

We'll see the movie in 2.5 weeks. We won't know the real deal on what went down behind the scenes until it all comes out in the dirt sheets, brotherrrrrr.

That could be years. But we'll know one day. And people should listen to me. I'm right about everything. I'm so quick I'm even fast asleep, my dude.

lol Hey I wanna say in all seriousness You said you would not be able to see the movie because of funds I happen to have a free ticket via Crush And i think im whilling to let you to have it so that you can see first hand how good the movie is. I was thinking of saving it for someone but if you think that you might actually enjoy the movie, i'd be willing to give you the ticket. If not i'd rather save it for someone who will enjoy the movie

[Xiewin]

Originally Posted by samxsteal

lol Hey I wanna say in all seriousness You said you would not be able to see the movie because of funds I happen to have a free ticket via Crush And i think im whilling to let you to have it so that you can see first hand how good the movie is. I was thinking of saving it for someone but if you think that you might actually enjoy the movie, i'd be willing to give you the ticket. If not i'd rather save it for someone who will enjoy the movie

Lets not jump too far into conclusions there lol

We have no idea how good or bad this movie will turn out.

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

Originally Posted by samxsteal

Look at TF4 "fans" hated it trashed it still trash it but facts are they saw it and so did millions more. lol.

not the same...fans didnt like the changes to TF4 after the movie was already out....trailers and BTS stuff was very prasied

Originally Posted by samxsteal

lol Hey I wanna say in all seriousness You said you would not be able to see the movie because of funds I happen to have a free ticket via Crush And i think im whilling to let you to have it so that you can see first hand how good the movie is. \

and if it isnt good? if its a steaming pile of crap? then what? eh huh huh huh eh....also it is not cool to mock someones funds dude

[Leo656]

No way bro, no offense but I don't much like taking hand-outs. I appreciate the sentiment. If I go, it'll be on my dime. Work picked up a little, so who knows? I might yet be able to squeeze this and Sin City in if I'm careful. I'll see it on DVD soon enough anyway. I don't have to see this in theaters. I'm pretty sure I'd have liked Spidey, X-Men, and Cap 2 more, and I didn't get to see them in theaters. I feel kinda dirty if I pay for this and not any of those. Could go either way. We'll see.

And he wasn't mocking, I made it quite clear several times that I'm not cash-rich and movies aren't a big priority for me. He was just making conversation based on what had already been spoken of.

The question is not, "How many times will I roll my eyes and 'What the F***?!' during this movie, but how many times?" I already know that. I've seen almost nothing that's to my taste so far, so the final product would honestly take a miracle to win me over. But it might still hold some value, to me, in a "love to hate it" sort of way, as lots of movies do. But I'll never not be disappointed with not getting more stuff I wanted.

I really like "Man of Steel", for example, I'm happy with what I got, I just wish it was completely different in almost every way.

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by The Boston Ninja Turtle

not the same...fans didnt like the changes to TF4 after the movie was already out....trailers and BTS stuff was very prasied

Im not talking just TF4 Im talking any of them TF TF2, TF3,

and if it isnt good? if its a steaming pile of crap? then what? eh huh huh huh eh....also it is not cool to mock someones funds dude

IF it is oh well(not likely) and chances i will enjoy it either way.

And im not Making fun of his fund I was being serious I have one he Said he would likely not see it cuz of his funds But if he "wants" to see it and think he might actually enjoy it I would be willing to Let him have my free ticket heck im going to see it regardless. But i dont want to give it away if its just going to be wasted I would rather give it to someone who is short on fund but wants to see the movie.

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

sam your faith in this movie boggles my mind

[Leo656]

I knew what you meant, sam, it's cool. I just have a Policy. 'Preciate ya. I have a budget, sometimes stuff fits and some doesn't. I ain't gonna lose sleep over it, if I go I go and if not it'll be on DVD by December. But anyways, I knew what you meant.

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by The Boston Ninja Turtle

sam your faith in this movie boggles my mind

and people lack of faith me Different strokes i guess like I've said formt he beginning im and Optimist

Originally Posted by Leo656

I knew what you meant, sam, it's cool. I just have a Policy. 'Preciate ya. I have a budget, sometimes stuff fits and some doesn't. I ain't gonna lose sleep over it, if I go I go and if not it'll be on DVD by December. But anyways, I knew what you meant.

Yeah No prop I mean SOme people think im a jerk on her but really i like being a good person, Ive been contemplating what to do with the free ticket and saw and opportunity. But no worries I hope you do end up seeing it and enjoy it.

Likely next year My budget will be really tight Just bought a house and all the construction. My wife's and I's first home ^_^

[Warhorse]

Originally Posted by The Boston Ninja Turtle

to be fair sam they have human facial features..you cant deny that

Mikey still has a very pronounced nose of the 4

...and its clear the very humanoid faces we originally saw, have been toned down since the first trailer

Yes they have. I definitely think that the studio/whoever is in charge, was and still is tweaking the final outcome of this movie, and the tweaking is definitely having to do with people not being happy with things (mind you, I said people, and this includes the film makers, they themselves may not be happy with certain looks and scenes). For all we know, they could have had one of those pre-screenings where they can get a gauge on what the audience is liking and not liking. Studios do this all of the time with big budget films.

Originally Posted by Xiewin

Lets not jump too far into conclusions there lol

We have no idea how good or bad this movie will turn out.

Eh, who knows, he might. For all we know, he might have been one of the consultants on the movie, so he knows exactly whats going down!

[Midnight Mutant]

With the alien thing? Yes, I think it did. With the ''white shredder'' thing...I don't know. It seems like it could go both ways. I think tho...if it was a marketing idea, they shouldn't have fired the fuel.

Like Will saying he was shredder in interviews and what not. It should have been left open to the fans to freak out over and never corrected until the big reveal.

I'm happy the alien thing was changed. I never minded Sachs being Shredder if it was done right and Saki was at least mentioned as an inspiration or something.

Heck, maybe Sachs is a shredder until Saki shows up and says 'oh no you di-in't just try to take my persona' and Sachs is like 'oh snap, I was just joking, here's some awesome armor I upgraded for me..I mean you' and shredders like 'Damn right!'

There, now we have both Shredders, the end.

[Pondslider]

To be fair Fichtner has said from the beginning that Sachs "becomes" Shredder. So it's possible someone else wears the armor at first and then Sachs, who has been pulling the strings all along, takes over for the climax.

Nothing yet has completely contradicted that.

[Rooish]

It seems pretty obvious to me that things were changed in response to backlash. However I haven't noticed these facial changes. Does anyone have a before/after photo of the changes to their faces?