Paramount Pictures @ Comic Con. 'TMNT' to be included?

[Roseangelo]

Guys, if I do anything with it it'll be much later and I will do it my way. Don't get pushy.

[Le Glorieux Tortue]

None of those replies seemed pushy ?

[Radical Raph]

Originally Posted by Roseangelo

Guys, if I do anything with it it'll be much later and I will do it my way. Don't get pushy.

[A_Little_Too_Raph.9859]

Originally Posted by Le Glorieux Tortue

None of those replies seemed pushy ?

I know. Someone comes across as a little rude...

[1984TMNT]

Yup - often seems to come off as entitled, with a hint of ego. Nobody was being pushy.

[beeshaw]

Originally Posted by Radical Raph

http://static.squarespace.com/static...ack%20away.gif

Where's the Mikey mask gif? lol

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa...hold on...it's just a suggestion..

[voltron80]

Originally Posted by Bry

Is that true? I'm sure I saw other negative-to-ambivalent ones. And I wouldn't call any review that doesn't say "this looks bad" to be "good", necessarily...



Yeah, I don't think that's an accurate assessment, though. Yes, the designs are turning a lot of people off, but that's not the only thing, and I don't even think it's the deal-breaker in most cases. It's the whole thing. The style, the plot, the directing, the casting, the humour, and the alterations to the key backstory... they're just divisive. Either you're into it or you're not. And if someone's not, I don't think it's fair to dismiss that by simplifying and making assumptions about their reasons.




TMNT originated as a parody, yeah. And it was a damn good one. But the reason it worked so well as a parody is because Eastman and Laird played it straight. The concept is ridiculous by design, but they didn't treat it as a joke in-story. They let their characters take it seriously, and that's why it worked. I dunno if you've read Raise Some Shell by Richard Rosenbaum, but it makes a very good case for this, and for why that's the concept's major strength.

Of course, as the series went on, it changed and explored other avenues. It could be balls-out goofy/ridiculous, and it could be introspective, thoughtful and grounded, and it could be dark, gritty and "serious". But at its best, it always had a balance.



So basically, they're aping that whole "specifically genetically engineered to be the hero" plot element from The Amazing Spider-Man that most fans/viewers were ambivalent about, at best?

http://media.giphy.com/media/RL0Oq6F4Jcu9G/giphy.gif

I would love it if someone could just sit the entire current crop of screenwriters down and tell them: if you make every hero's journey pre-destined or planned, and you reveal that every main character was already tied together before the plot begins, you make their whole "world" SO much smaller and less special.

You know how C-3P0 and R2-D2 just happened to meet Luke Skywalker, and later they and Obi-Wan Kenobi just happened to meet Han Solo and Chewbacca at a bar, and how these chance encounters and their impact on the story made the viewers feel that the world of Star Wars was vast and limitless, and anything was possible? Kind of like real life? Screenwriters: YOU ARE KILLING THAT FEELING. (Much like George Lucas himself did with the prequels, mind you...)

It seems you proved this guy point without even knowing it or you did but you was like F that I'm going to back up the tools that support my opinion of the movie. From reading sites and certain people on message boards, comment section and YouTube rants it seems there's two camps of people who hate this movie 1. The loyalists to the 1987 show that are either indifferent or hate any version of the turtles post that era. And 2. The Mirage marks who wants nothing but a dark and gritty movie where the turtles are wearing red masks and fight scenes that rival "Kill Bill" or "Ninja Assassin".
It seems the overall point you missed was you guys i.e. you and Boston can sit in the theaters hope and pray Guardians of Whatever rakes in half a billion dollars on the first weekend so whatever Turtles opens to the following weekend is distant second if you want, while people who don't share that view goes to see it.

[Radical Raph]

Originally Posted by beeshaw

Where's the Mikey mask gif? lol

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa...hold on...it's just a suggestion..

Would've been perfect. Couldn't find it tho.

[TigerClaw]

Here's video from the Panel

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

Originally Posted by voltron80

It seems the overall point you missed was you guys i.e. you and Boston can sit in the theaters hope and pray Guardians of Whatever rakes in half a billion dollars on the first weekend so whatever Turtles opens to the following weekend is distant second if you want, while people who don't share that view goes to see it.

i like how i was brought into a fight i actually had nothing to do with...dude get a life, ive said it many times, and leave my name out of your mouth..this is the last time ill say it...people have different tastes in movies


also stop saying i want TMNT to fail because i literally never said that....and if you are going to quote me on saying i wouldnt seeing on opening, get your facts straight

1 I like seeing movies in order...i still havent had a chance Maleficent and Transformers. I havent seen a movie opening weekend in years
i am not going to see Guardians opening weekend either

2 I work almost every weekend..so opening nights are out of the question for me, when i can get to the movies i go on matinees

3 that is my best friends birthday , and if i am going to the movies we will see something he wants to see (which isnt turtles)

4 that weekend is Boston Comic Con, so my money will be going towards that (hotel, food, ride, tickets)

5 originally, unless i got free tickets to a premiere (because of the reasons listed above) i wasn't going to go see it , which now as changed do to some studio invitations i recently got, as well as a local comic shop movie party IE i don't have to pay for it


so again, shut up, and stop with the I want it to fail

[Bry]

Originally Posted by voltron80

It seems you proved this guy point without even knowing it or you did but you was like F that I'm going to back up the tools that support my opinion of the movie. From reading sites and certain people on message boards, comment section and YouTube rants it seems there's two camps of people who hate this movie 1. The loyalists to the 1987 show that are either indifferent or hate any version of the turtles post that era. And 2. The Mirage marks who wants nothing but a dark and gritty movie where the turtles are wearing red masks and fight scenes that rival "Kill Bill" or "Ninja Assassin".
It seems the overall point you missed was you guys i.e. you and Boston can sit in the theaters hope and pray Guardians of Whatever rakes in half a billion dollars on the first weekend so whatever Turtles opens to the following weekend is distant second if you want, while people who don't share that view goes to see it.

Nobody proved or missed any "point". We all have our reasons for being leery of this movie, or outright disliking it, and those reasons vary from person to person. They're our opinions and they're perfectly valid. Stop trying to make us all fit into two specific little "boxes" (that you alone conveniently get to define, huh?) just because you don't like that.

Stop putting words in peoples' mouths. Stop trying to tell people what their reasoning or motivations are like you know better than they do. It's small-minded and disrespectful. Do better.

[beeshaw]

Originally Posted by Radical Raph

Would've been perfect. Couldn't find it tho.

Still giggled at the one you posted.

Originally Posted by TigerClaw

Here's video from the Panel

Thanks TigerClaw! I know what I'll be watching on my lunch break!

[A_Little_Too_Raph.9859]

Originally Posted by 1984TMNT

Yup - often seems to come off as entitled, with a hint of ego. Nobody was being pushy.

Just a hint??

[SwiftNinjaFox]

Originally Posted by Artist

One bad review, and about 5 other good ones. If you don't like the movie, that will never change. As much as you try to like it, you wont. The designs are going to be in this movie, and you will always prefer the older look. The story might blow you away, but the look of the turtles might keep you away. August 8th will not change one single mind. You have chosen your opinion as soon as you saw those turtles. Everyones mind is made up. You can try and tell yourself or others you still hold out hope, but you know you hate it. I say dont see it. Wait for it to hit redbox or netflix. Do not pay for something you will not be satisfied with. As for me. I will be there at a 12 am showing. With my 3 little brothers in our different colored masks. Cowa-F@#$^&-bunga

Where are the 5 good reviews? I've not seen anything other than a sort of "eh" vibe to reviews, none sparkling nor bad from skimming on here.

Originally Posted by Gimme_Three

LOL!! boy some of guys are too funny. the creators of the turtles are on board and apart of this version. It's ****ing TMNT, a movie, a cartoon, a comic book some of you act like its religion. Ok, the movie isn't to the tone you like pull the stick out your ass and go read the damn comic or whatever "serious" work your talking about. Just because it doesn't follow your TMNT bible doesn't make it "ape **** or a **** fest"

The creator. One of them. Eastman, the guy working on it and invested in it personally who also loved Next Mutation and promoted it as amazing development for the TMNT. Laird hasn't commented on the new movie in a while, having last said he would wait for the whole thing before forming an opinion. He was fairly pessimistic when he did last comment on what he'd seen (which was the same WE saw since he's not working on it behind the scenes or anything).

Some disagree with Eastman's tastes on the turtle stuff, some lean more towards Laird's preference. Personally, since he's working on it, I would expect Eastman to be more favorable and Laird a bit more critical. I can't fault Eastman for his contributions in IDW though. I'm loving the way things are developing differently with familiarity over there.

For the movie, we'll see. I probably won't see it opening night. Leaning towards Sunday with the all you can eat pizza option at a theater in my area.


I've been much more optimistic from the trailers they've shown, but I have to say I do think they've really screwed up the TMNT with Bay's hard on for military stuff emphasizing Foot SOLDIERS and the turtles being not only bullet proof but able to......shoot bullets back out of their shells? THAT is one point that is just utterly stupid. Superman is one of the most boring super heroes of all time because he's just unbeatable. Don't make the turtles near invincible.

I mean, why bother with stealth when you can just walk head first into gunfire with no concerns of getting hit in a vital area other than the head? :/

For that matter, protect your head and walk straightforward into gunfire and just.....shoot the bullets back out of your shell. >_<

Hopefully the one scene is all that makes use of this, imo, utter stupidity.

[A_Little_Too_Raph.9859]

Laird just seems to be close minded. He isn't open to new things, a different take. They aren't changing anything majorly from what we have seen so far. I don't know what the guys problem is

[SwiftNinjaFox]

Originally Posted by A_Little_Too_Raph.9859

Eastman just seems to be close minded. He isn't open to new things, a different take. They aren't changing anything majorly from what we have seen so far. I don't know what the guys problem is

You mean Laird. Eastman is working on the film.

That said, though, Laird didn't like the designs last he commented (and a lot of people were not liking them at that time; in hindsight they were unpolished and had some notable differences to now/final product, in my view). For the movie itself, he said he wouldn't form an opinion until it was out and he had seen it.

[Xiewin]

The humor, bullet-proof turtles, and the run time are the only things that are bothering the heck out of me.

[Radical Raph]

Originally Posted by SwiftNinjaFox

For that matter, protect your head and walk straightforward into gunfire and just.....shoot the bullets back out of your shell. >_<

Hopefully the one scene is all that makes use of this, imo, utter stupidity.

I've been a fan of most everything they are doing so far and I agree that is kind of stupid. I'll have to wait and see how they pull it off in the movie before passing final judgment.

[Bry]

Originally Posted by A_Little_Too_Raph.9859

Eastman just seems to be close minded. He isn't open to new things, a different take. They aren't changing anything majorly from what we have seen so far. I don't know what the guys problem is

As SwiftNinjaFox said, you're likely thinking of Peter Laird, not Kevin Eastman.

But yeah, damn the guy who co-created the thing we're all fans of.

He co-created them and he has a preferred vision of the concept. And he's entitled to that at least as much of any of us are. That's not a "problem". (Not being able to accept or deal with differing opinions is, though!)

[SwiftNinjaFox]

Originally Posted by Xiewin

The humor, bullet-proof turtles, and the run time are the only things that are bothering the heck out of me.

Bullet proof turtles make SwiftNinjaFox

Run time....kind of disappointed. I'd prefer 2 hours. Back to the Future is 2 hours long. It works if the pacing is right.

Humor, hit and miss. I don't like the "shell getting tight" joke. I don't like fart jokes, but I acknowledge farts are high comedy for kids (though I'd usually assume under 13) as well.

But then, "He's using his 'Batman voice'," "Still learning all the buttons," "Sorry that sounded suuuper creepy, wewillfindyouthough," MC Mikey, and others have hit the right notes for me. I'm more favorable towards the humor with a few sounding like they'll fall flat for me.