‘Ninja Turtles’ May Shell-Shock ‘Guardians’ at Box Office (The Wrap Article)

[TrickOrTreater]

Originally Posted by chrisdude

Not quite like establishing the existence of an object of infinite power, that existed before the universe. That's a big bomb to drop in the narration. That's just like a comic book ridiculous...

Oh I thought we were talking about crappy writing and not ridiculous concepts.

My mistake.

[chrisdude]

Originally Posted by TrickOrTreater

Oh I thought we were talking about crappy writing and not ridiculous concepts.

My mistake.

It's still bad writing. You don't go into a sequel saying, "And way back before, there was this mighty powerful thing that we never set up. Just accept it, we're moving forward." And it's also cheap to say this all-powerful thing always existed, so that you don't even have to think of an origin for it. It's akin to the Transformers continuously finding ancient powerful things in and around Earth. The new TMNT backstory may be farfetched, but at least there is causality.

[TrickOrTreater]

Originally Posted by chrisdude

It's still bad writing. You don't go into a sequel saying, "And way back before, there was this mighty powerful thing that we never set up. Just accept it, we're moving forward." And it's also cheap to say this all-powerful thing always existed, so that you don't even have to think of an origin for it. It's akin to the Transformers continuously finding ancient powerful things in and around Earth. The new TMNT backstory may be farfetched, but at least there is causality.

I'm curious. Did THIS play at all in this movie?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95YrWB3AQVk

[This_is_my_username]

Originally Posted by METALHEAD

weather it beats guardians or not really doesn't matter. but the sheer fact that people all over america will get together to see ninja turtles is always a major event.

Definitely. I have great memories of a group of college friends getting together and watching TMNT 2007 in theaters and reliving it during a Turtles DVD night. It was great. Now we are spread all over and are doing the married/career thing, but I can tell they are excited about the movie, too. That's what makes it so awesome- yes, each movie has flaws, and there are things I wanted from each movie that sometimes I got and sometimes I really didn't get, and I'm sure this one is no different, but it's still going to be a great experience.

The reviews really don't make a difference in terms of that experience. Reviews, especially with social media, tend to be annoyingly trendy, and at least half the time, I have a completely different experience than the general review vibe seems to be sending. I don't feel defensive to the fact that this movie is probably not as solid as GOTG, but I doubt, as a genuine fan of all things TMNT, that I am going to be as offended as I should be with a so called "18% fresh" movie.

[chrisdude]

Originally Posted by TrickOrTreater

I'm curious. Did THIS play at all in this movie?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95YrWB3AQVk

Spoiler:

No, it did not.

[Purse Grabbin Puke]

i just got home from seeing the movie...

I thought about making this a post mocking everyone claiming this movie was bad before even seeing it, but I'll just give a straight OPINION of the movie, not a review.

I loved this movie from the opening credits until the end credits. I do not need to hear Hamato Yoshi or Oroku Saki for this to be a TMNT movie. The Turtles were fantastic, funny, you are not constantly reminded they're CGI. This movie moves FAST. Unlike the 90's movie which takes place over a week or two, this takes place over a few days, with the chunk of it taking place in one day. There are of course classic villain explaining his scheme moments, and other cheesy moments, but they do NOT ruin this movie.

I was very angry when they cast Megan Fox as April. My opinion of her, is that she's the worst actress in main stream movies. In this movie, she did not miss a beat, and she was very good. She brought a new kind of April, and I have to say I enjoyed her take. Will Arnett was funny, his character actually serves a purpose, he's not just a disposable camera man.

Shredder...Shredder was AWESOME. He had plenty of dialogue, he was not given the opportunities the first movie Shredder had to establish how bad he can be, but he was a BAD MAN. I know it could be nothing, but I can't help but feel they certainly have an opening to explore Shredder and Splinter in a sequel. Their showdown was incredible and I felt immediate tension between them. The way certain things were said, they could inject the back story so many want to hear or see in further movies.

The turtles' personalities are perfect, their look in the actual movie is very good looking, the trailers and posters don't do them justice. Mikey was hilarious. Knoxville did really well as Leo, but sometimes I noticed it was Knoxville, others he blended in. The guy who played Raph was GREAT. Raph is my least favorite turtle, but this guy who played him, aside from Sean Astin, might be the best Raph.

I didn't think the plot was poorly written at all. It does move quick, but they logically move the story along. I know for sure now, the people complaining, or the reviewers who bash this, have agendas. My theater was roaring with laughter and everyone walking out was raving about it. Grown men acting like little kids talking about their favorite parts. The first movie is very special to me, and this movie is right up there. I'll answer any questions if anyone has any.

[NinjaPug]

Decent opening. TMNT generated $4.6 million last night.

http://www.thewrap.com/teenage-mutan...-to-high-40ms/

GOTG took in $7.6 million yesterday but only TMNT's gross will count towards the weekend box office total.

[THGhost]

Originally Posted by floydbanks7

That's what I've heard, but not what I've seen.

Maybe you should watch them again and have more of an open mind.

Originally Posted by TigerClaw

Thor: The Dark World was pretty good, And it setup Guardians of the Galaxy at the end.

This.

[Purse Grabbin Puke]

Originally Posted by THGhost

Maybe you should watch them again and have more of an open mind.

The only reason I watched them is because I wanted to like them. I enjoy the Avengers movies, so I wanted to like Thor. I thought the first Thor movie was beyond horrible. Easily the worst of the Marvel Stuidos movies. The only thing that was good and that I remember from the 2nd Thor movie is Kat Dennings was funny.

[Shark_Blade]

Originally Posted by floydbanks7

i just got home from seeing the movie...

I thought about making this a post mocking everyone claiming this movie was bad before even seeing it, but I'll just give a straight OPINION of the movie, not a review.

I loved this movie from the opening credits until the end credits. I do not need to hear Hamato Yoshi or Oroku Saki for this to be a TMNT movie. The Turtles were fantastic, funny, you are not constantly reminded they're CGI. This movie moves FAST. Unlike the 90's movie which takes place over a week or two, this takes place over a few days, with the chunk of it taking place in one day. There are of course classic villain explaining his scheme moments, and other cheesy moments, but they do NOT ruin this movie.

I was very angry when they cast Megan Fox as April. My opinion of her, is that she's the worst actress in main stream movies. In this movie, she did not miss a beat, and she was very good. She brought a new kind of April, and I have to say I enjoyed her take. Will Arnett was funny, his character actually serves a purpose, he's not just a disposable camera man.

Shredder...Shredder was AWESOME. He had plenty of dialogue, he was not given the opportunities the first movie Shredder had to establish how bad he can be, but he was a BAD MAN. I know it could be nothing, but I can't help but feel they certainly have an opening to explore Shredder and Splinter in a sequel. Their showdown was incredible and I felt immediate tension between them. The way certain things were said, they could inject the back story so many want to hear or see in further movies.

The turtles' personalities are perfect, their look in the actual movie is very good looking, the trailers and posters don't do them justice. Mikey was hilarious. Knoxville did really well as Leo, but sometimes I noticed it was Knoxville, others he blended in. The guy who played Raph was GREAT. Raph is my least favorite turtle, but this guy who played him, aside from Sean Astin, might be the best Raph.

I didn't think the plot was poorly written at all. It does move quick, but they logically move the story along. I know for sure now, the people complaining, or the reviewers who bash this, have agendas. My theater was roaring with laughter and everyone walking out was raving about it. Grown men acting like little kids talking about their favorite parts. The first movie is very special to me, and this movie is right up there. I'll answer any questions if anyone has any.

Nice read. Glad you like it too!

[THGhost]

Originally Posted by floydbanks7

The only reason I watched them is because I wanted to like them. I enjoy the Avengers movies, so I wanted to like Thor. I thought the first Thor movie was beyond horrible. Easily the worst of the Marvel Stuidos movies. The only thing that was good and that I remember from the 2nd Thor movie is Kat Dennings was funny.

You really think the Thor movies are worse than Iron Man 3?

[Purse Grabbin Puke]

Originally Posted by THGhost

You really think the Thor movies are worse than Iron Man 3?

Yes, Thor is such a lame Super Hero. He's Marvel's Aquaman.

[THGhost]

Originally Posted by floydbanks7

He's Marvel's Aquaman.

I'll give you that one. While I did enjoy the Thor movies myself, I couldn't care less what happened between him and Jane Foster.

[Shark_Blade]

I prefer Loki than Thor anyway.

[MajorViolence]

It'll be interesting to see how this goes. I don't really think it would be an accomplishment if TMNT knocks GotG from first place. Now, if it can beat GotG's opening weekend numbers, then I'll be impressed. But it's not exactly a victory for a well-known brand that has existed for over two decades to outperform a film about unknown characters that's in its second weekend. Marvel brand or no. Honestly, I've been more amazed that GotG is performing as well as it has. As much as I loved the movie, I was really worried it was going to be too weird for people and wind up a total flop.

[LincolnHawk]

doubt it will shell shock GOTG...GOTG was 10x better than this horse turd

[MajorViolence]

Originally Posted by LincolnHawk

doubt it will shell shock GOTG...GOTG was 10x better than this horse turd

After TF4 I've given up on the idea that quality will dictate ticket sales.

[Forneus]

Originally Posted by LincolnHawk

doubt it will shell shock GOTG...GOTG was 10x better than this horse turd

Good cinema with heart doesn't mean much these days. Well Guardians did manage to take a no-name franchise, and take them to super-stardom by putting out a funny, exciting, thoughtful movie, that winked at the audience and respected them deeply but...Audiences just love their soulless entertainment as much as the quality pictures.

No doubts that TMNT will take this weekend, especially with second-week releases having their Thursdays not counted.

[LincolnHawk]

Originally Posted by MajorViolence

After TF4 I've given up on the idea that quality will dictate ticket sales.

saw TF4 as well, and I still think GOTG was better than that, there was only a few movies that came out this year that I thought "blew me away" and sadly TMNT wasn't one of them

[Xiewin]

The only films that I thought "blew me away" this summer was Dawn of the Planet of the Apes, Xmen: Days of Future Past and HTTYD2. Everything else this summer sucked for me.