Dark Knight or Planet of the Apes styled movie

[Leo656]

Not everybody agreed that Nick buying TMNT was what was best for the property, either. For some fans, that news was less of a celebration and more like a funeral. Not hard to see where they're coming from. In their eyes, the franchise is now forever locked in a kids' toy box, only free to grow and expand to its full potential in the minds of people writing (sometimes questionable) fanfiction.

It's like, yeah, we'll get some new stuff every few years, but as long as it's watered-down for 5-year-olds, it's tough to get excited about it anymore. There's plenty of room to debate about whether or not the franchise "going corporate" was a good or bad thing. I mean, sounds silly on the surface - "How Can More TMNT Ever Be A Bad Thing?" - but if it's all just for snot-pickers then who even gives a sh*t anymore? Why would anyone outside that age bracket even like it anymore? It's a problem Nick will have to address one day when the current phase of popularity starts to wane. We'll see if they'll be willing to let the franchise get a little more "grown-up" once the money slows down, or if the next few movies don't do so well.

I don't even think going "dark" is necessary, nor is trying to be overly "real". Just don't make a piece of sh*t, it's really not hard. There was so much more wrong with the new movie beyond just the tone. That was a problem, but there were a lot of other ones. They could have made a "goofy" movie and it wouldn't have been a big deal if they had actually done anything good with it.

[Commenter 42]

Originally Posted by TheSkeletonMan939

It looks like people want a dark and gritty reboot of the turtles (I assume that's why The Dark Knight and Planet of the Apes are cited as models to follow); I worry that people confuse the words "realistic" and "dark" with each other. For example, Mr. Bean's Holiday is a realistic film, but not a dark one.

A realistic film has believable characters with many layers and motives, not just static "Mikey is funny so he always has to makes jokes and never be serious" sort of stuff.

A dark film is really gritty, lots of violence and cussing and whatnot. A dark film can be realistic, but the two do not mean the same thing.

I for one want a realistic TMNT film, not necessarily a dark one. I want the turtles to feel human, feel like normal people. Hell, one of the emotions they feel could be is that they don't feel human at all, and that would make them more human. I want to feel like the turtles care for each other, and interact believably with their human friends, not just simply acknowledge that each other exist and that be that.

I'm not confusing the terms. TMNT was a parody. The joy of the franchise is embedded in that idea, but has expanded into its own thing over the years. It's a revenege tale, it's gray morality, it's emblematic of the sort of hero tales popular at it's inception. The joke is that it became popular in-spite of itself.

Today, the trend is to go big, and go dark. To be the proper parody that it was intended to be, it needs to emulate the trends. Image turtles were a response to the trend of hyper violent comics of the 90's. A turtles movie should reflect the trends of today.

But please, can we retire the word gritty back to the 8th isle of the hardware store, with the sandpaper, where it belongs. it means nothing. unless you're describing the grain in the film stock, a gravel road, or food you dropped on the floor, but still ate.

[sgtfbomb]

I mean, I could go either way. I would love a "dark" TMNT movie and I would love a "light" TMNT. I would even love a TMNT that is a little bit of both. As long it's done right. Doesn't matter what the intentions are, if the filmmakers (and budding-in studios) make half-ass decisions ("it's an action movie, no one cares"), cast any actor who'll say "yes" whether or not they fit the part or have on-screen charisma, occupy the film with unintentionally unintelligent characters, etc, the movie will suffer for it.

There is a silver lining, though. At least Sony Pictures isn't involved in the making of these films.....

[SparkFlash]

I personally would love it. Something realistic as much as possible and with a grittier feel. But as mentioned, I highly doubt it would ever fly. The audience base just wouldn't be able to carry that.

[Bloodsucker]

Imagine TMNT done by George Miller. I could cry.

[Commenter 42]

Originally Posted by Bloodsucker

Imagine TMNT done by George Miller. I could cry.

That film looks Great. Good call.

[Ville Leskinen]

The new Mad Max looks horrible! Hollywood will never get it right...

What i'd like to see is a turtle movie set in 1984. Just look at what state lower east side, Brooklyn and Bronx were at the time! If that's not gritty, then I don't know what is. The rise of the hip hop, the yuppies and gang violence. An ideal setting for a Mirage based TMNT film?

[Commenter 42]

Originally Posted by Ville Leskinen

The new Mad Max looks horrible! Hollywood will never get it right...

What i'd like to see is a turtle movie set in 1984. Just look at what state lower east side, Brooklyn and Bronx were at the time! If that's not gritty, then I don't know what is. The rise of the hip hop, the yuppies and gang violence. An ideal setting for a Mirage based TMNT film?

You're in the minority on that. The trailer looks great. I think you're the first person to say otherwise.

Anyway, yeah, TMNT should be set in 1984. Absolutely. The era is important to the story.

[Ville Leskinen]

Originally Posted by Commenter 42

You're in the minority on that. The trailer looks great. I think you're the first person to say otherwise.

Mind you, I didn't really care for Thunderdome. Loved the first one. Road warrior was ok, though it didn't have the same low-budget feel as the original. So yeah, this looks like a horrible recashing of another 80's franchise but that's Hollywood. I wasn't expecting anything else.

Originally Posted by Commenter 42

Anyway, yeah, TMNT should be set in 1984. Absolutely. The era is important to the story.

Now who do we pitch this idea? I mean, just look at these photos:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/steven...76913418/page1

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by Commenter 42

You're in the minority on that. The trailer looks great. I think you're the first person to say otherwise.

Anyway, yeah, TMNT should be set in 1984. Absolutely. The era is important to the story.

Y'know... you kinda have a point. Something seems weird and off about having the TMNT running around in the modern iphone/internet era.

That's what kinda sucks about people with secret identities anymore. Superman never had to worry about some random guy taking a pic with his phone while he's changing in the phone booth, nor Spider-Man ever have to worry about the traffic light cam taking a random pic of him whenever he loses his mask in a fight. The more we keep adding all of these stalkery technologies, the more we really have to raise suspension of disbelief to believe someone can actually be Batman and not have the police and FBI busting down Wayne Manor within the month.

[B-Man]

The trailers for the new Mad Max are so epic you can't help but forgive how Zack Snyder-ish a lot of it looks. Hardy is spot-on. Hope Theron doesn't hijack the whole thing.

[Commenter 42]

Originally Posted by B-Man

The trailers for the new Mad Max are so epic you can't help but forgive how Zack Snyder-ish a lot of it looks. Hardy is spot-on. Hope Theron doesn't hijack the whole thing.

man, Zack Snyder-ish? lol...You do realize this is George Miller, returning to the films he created?

Zack Snyder likes things like this:



desaturated, almost black and white or sepia with bad green screen.

this trailer looks much more vibrant, and the stunts look real:



The production design overall is superior to Snyders cheap looking films.

[B-Man]

Fair enough but there is a LOT of crazy cg at the end of that new trailer. When you watch the car stunts in The Road Warrior, you're like "how the f*ck did no-one get killed making this???". You got the feeling they were being super reckless, risking their lives & getting insane footage all done for real. This looks like a comic book. Still stoked for it, though.

[Commenter 42]

Originally Posted by B-Man

Fair enough but there is a LOT of crazy cg at the end of that new trailer. When you watch the car stunts in The Road Warrior, you're like "how the f*ck did no-one get killed making this???". You got the feeling they were being super reckless, risking their lives & getting insane footage all done for real. This looks like a comic book. Still stoked for it, though.

Hey, if you're willing to give tmnt a thumbs up
But seriously, I particularly like the color of the trailer, vibrant and crazy.

It's definitely a little too CG at the end, but hopefully Miller kept that to a minimum.

Either way, I'm not looking forward to much next year, so at least there's this.

[B-Man]

Originally Posted by Commenter 42

Either way, I'm not looking forward to much next year, so at least there's this.

Yeah, next year kinda blows for those of us who aren't that fussed about Star Wars & Avengers. Only ones I'm excited for are...

- Jon Favreau's new live-action The Jungle Book.
- Jurassic World (though I was a lot more excited before that trailer).
- Mad Max: Fury Road.
- The Hateful Eight.

Ant Man, Furious 7, Kingsman, Terminator: Genysis, Spectre, Mission Impossible V, The Fantastic Four, Avengers & Star Wars are all stuff I'll see but aren't like COUNTING DOWN THE DAYS for. 2016 on the other hand...

- Batman v Superman.
- TMNT II.
- War Of The Planet Of The Apes.
- Deadpool.
- Ghostbusters reboot (though this is shaping up horribly thus far).
- Goosebumps.
- Mighty Morphin Power Rangers reboot.
- The Suicide Squad.
- Independence Day sequel.
- Shane Black's The Nice Guys.
- Warcraft.

Stoked.

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by B-Man

Yeah, next year kinda blows for those of us who aren't that fussed about Star Wars & Avengers. Only ones I'm excited for are...

- Jon Favreau's new live-action The Jungle Book.
- Jurassic World (though I was a lot more excited before that trailer).
- Mad Max: Fury Road.
- The Hateful Eight.

Ant Man, Furious 7, Kingsman, Terminator: Genysis, Spectre, Mission Impossible V, The Fantastic Four, Avengers & Star Wars are all stuff I'll see but aren't like COUNTING DOWN THE DAYS for. 2016 on the other hand...

- Batman v Superman.
- TMNT II.
- War Of The Planet Of The Apes.
- Deadpool.
- Ghostbusters reboot (though this is shaping up horribly thus far).
- Goosebumps.
- Mighty Morphin Power Rangers reboot.
- The Suicide Squad.
- Independence Day sequel.
- Shane Black's The Nice Guys.
- Warcraft.

Stoked.

Seriously Each year keeps getting better and better

[Commenter 42]

Originally Posted by B-Man

...

Meh... just looked through the next two years, my list is a little shorter:

-Avatar Sequels (dates?)
-Animal Farm
-Mad Max: Fury Road.
-War Of The Planet Of The Apes.
-Star Wars
-Avengers
-Chappie
-Ex Machina
-Monkey Kingdom

Sort of in that order, as far as excitement level goes.

[kev trashcan]

I would really want to see a tmnt movie directed by guillermo del toro. it wouldn't have to be completely based on the original comics but really inspired by them. definitely have it set in 1984 and have the creature design team from hellboy working on it. I think he would do an awesome urban sci-fi/fantasy version that wouldn't even need to leave the sewers for the first movie. the mousers push the turtles deep into the sewer discovering the other mutants along the way or something and at the end realizing that baxter stockman's strings are being pulled by shredder, and then the reason for their training is reviled. think about how awesome his version of splinter would be too.

also it would have been great if david cronenberg had made a tmnt movie back in the 80's. staying true to the comics but adding a level of body horror on the account of mutation.