Official Ep Discussion: S3 Ep12-13: "Battle for New York" - Page 5

**Jester** · 03-08-2015, 04:33 PM

Loved these episodes. Lots of fun nods to things past, and an actually very fun story. One thing that still kinda weirds me out is Leo's being the one turtle the most antagonistic of Slash. I'd figure Raph would still have the most anger at Slash, and Slash has appeared since he thrashed the brothers, so why is Leo so bent out of shape NOW? Because Slash as leader is some fun-house mirror image of him?

xenopokemon · 03-08-2015, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Powder

I wonder if we'll get to see the MM vs. Shredder's mutant team, The Abominable Animen.

Abominable Animen? Wouldn't it be Antimen? And is that really what we are calling them now?

*Powder* · 03-08-2015, 04:40 PM

Animen = animal men. Ya know, like Mutanimals = mutant animals.

It's a joke, I made it up. Nobody but me is calling them that. *laughing emoticon*

*CyberCubed* · 03-08-2015, 04:50 PM

They didn't defeat Kraang Prime yet, (aka the TRUE Krang), so its obvious the Kraang plot isn't wrapped up for good.

My dream is to see Kraang Prime in his Android body leading an army of Rock Soldiers before he dies.

**Jester** · 03-08-2015, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

They didn't defeat Kraang Prime yet, (aka the TRUE Krang), so its obvious the Kraang plot isn't wrapped up for good.

My dream is to see Kraang Prime in his Android body leading an army of Rock Soldiers before he dies.

^ just as annoying as Mr. "I'm the One True Shredder" in the other thread.

If anyone more resembles FW Krang, it's Sub-Prime anyway. I swear some of Godfried's delivery sounds a touch like Pat Fraley.

yellowmario27 · 03-08-2015, 04:54 PM

What does everyone want to see with the karai plot?
do you guys want to see her join the turtles? she is splinter's daughter, so would she live with them? will she be a member of the team?

*CyberCubed* · 03-08-2015, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester

If anyone more resembles FW Krang, it's Sub-Prime anyway. I swear some of Godfried's delivery sounds a touch like Pat Fraley.

I liked his voice delivery, but he's likely an intended all-new character. Kraang Prime has too many similarities to the original, such as living in the Technodrome, having a huge Android body with an antenna that looks similar to his old android body in the OT, working with Shredder for a while, being the leader from Dimension X and trying to conquer the world, etc.

I mean let's face it, we have Shredder, Bebop and Rocksteady in the show and endless other Fred Wolf nods. No way would they not have the other most iconic villain of the original toon not in the show, and that's why Kraang Prime exists.

*Powder* · 03-08-2015, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by yellowmario27

What does everyone want to see with the karai plot?
do you guys want to see her join the turtles? she is splinter's daughter, so would she live with them? will she be a member of the team?

I'd like to see her become fully human again, & then go off by herself. Take a trip to Japan & train in the mountains, clear her head, find herself, etc. Maybe she comes back in the following season as the leader of a new clan of ninjas, good or bad.

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I liked his voice delivery, but he's likely an intended all-new character. Kraang Prime has too many similarities to the original, such as living in the Technodrome, having a huge Android body with an antenna that looks similar to his old android body in the OT, working with Shredder for a while, being the leader from Dimension X and trying to conquer the world, etc.

Kraang Sub-Prime has a robot suit designed to look humanoid, like OT Krang, which stands at around 10 feet or so, like OT Krang, & he can't stand his peers due to their lower intelligence, like OT Krang, & even delivered the line "I am surrounded by incompetence!", like OT Krang.

DarkLightDragon · 03-08-2015, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by yellowmario27

What does everyone want to see with the karai plot?
do you guys want to see her join the turtles? she is splinter's daughter, so would she live with them? will she be a member of the team?

To get resolved, for one.

And they seem to want her home with them, but it should really boil down to if she personally wants that. Though no way she willingly wants anything to do with Shredder anymore.

It would've been so interesting and ripe with potential for her adjusting to this new situation and getting to bond/make amends with each Turtle, Splinter, and even April in some way.

But too bad this show's tendency for mutations had to make that all a missed opportunity for the time being.

EDIT: Or what Powder said about her not joining them at all and just go off for a while to eventually return better and stronger so she'll challenge Shredder for control of the Foot Clan. That's good too.

**Jester** · 03-08-2015, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Powder

Kraang Sub-Prime has a robot suit designed to look humanoid, like OT Krang, which stands at around 10 feet or so, like OT Krang, & he can't stand his peers due to their lower intelligence, like OT Krang, & even delivered the line "I am surrounded by incompetence!", like OT Krang.

Ashwolf · 03-08-2015, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

so its obvious the Kraang plot isn't wrapped up for good.

from what I remember, ciro said it would be "mostly" wrapped up, not entirely

Orochi · 03-08-2015, 05:57 PM

Have to admit, I love Irma and want her to be an actual real character. I miss her a lot and she was pretty much my second favourite human. I wasn't going to cause a ruckus about it though, because it's just something the writers thought would work. Just hope in the future she comes out of a Kraang ship or something and was kidnapped.

*Autbot_Benz* · 03-08-2015, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Orochi

Have to admit, I love Irma and want her to be an actual real character. I miss her a lot and she was pretty much my second favourite human. I wasn't going to cause a ruckus about it though, because it's just something the writers thought would work. Just hope in the future she comes out of a Kraang ship or something and was kidnapped.

Nah Irma isn't gonna be a human in this turtleverse. they had tons of Irma robots that's all she is a robot. I like that Irma was f'n annoying in the 80's cartoon.

MaximeLoonatic · 03-08-2015, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Orochi

Have to admit, I love Irma and want her to be an actual real character. I miss her a lot and she was pretty much my second favourite human. I wasn't going to cause a ruckus about it though, because it's just something the writers thought would work. Just hope in the future she comes out of a Kraang ship or something and was kidnapped.

Me too!!! And maybe she would. On the tmnt2012 Wikipedia (which I asure you it's more trust es than the others, coz the info it's 100% real) it says that one of the producers said that she might come back and that the might has get kidnaped.

*Autbot_Benz* · 03-08-2015, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by MaximeLoonatic

Me too!!! And maybe she would. On the tmnt2012 Wikipedia (which I asure you it's more trust es than the others, coz the info it's 100% real) it says that one of the producers said that she might come back and that the might has get kidnaped.

you're wrong when you search Irma on Turtlepedia it comes up as Krangg Sub Prime. Also no wikipedia on the internet is 100% real. Anyone can edit that info.

*Powder* · 03-08-2015, 06:27 PM

That's a fan site, run by fans, edited by fans, often times full of fake information posted by fans, etc... You Irma fans need to get a grip, it's pretty clear that Battle For NY was a big middle finger to those of you wanting her to return.

*snake* · 03-08-2015, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MaximeLoonatic

Me too!!! And maybe she would. On the tmnt2012 Wikipedia (which I asure you it's more trust es than the others, coz the info it's 100% real) it says that one of the producers said that she might come back and that the might has get kidnaped.

No one said that. Ever. No info on tmnt wiki is 100% real.

*Autbot_Benz* · 03-08-2015, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Powder

That's a fan site, run by fans, edited by fans, often times full of fake information posted by fans, etc... You Irma fans need to get a grip, it's pretty clear that Battle For NY was a big middle finger to those of you wanting her to return.

*ToTheNines* · 03-08-2015, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester

^ just as annoying as Mr. "I'm the One True Shredder" in the other thread.

Lol. Nailed it man.

Orochi · 03-08-2015, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Autbot_Benz

Nah Irma isn't gonna be a human in this turtleverse. they had tons of Irma robots that's all she is a robot. I like that Irma was f'n annoying in the 80's cartoon.

See, I was never actually exposed to OT Irma, being that I was born way after turtlemania's first go. I sorta got into them via comics so this is my first exposure to Irma even though I'm aware she was hated during the original cartoon, but when I saw her in the Nick show, I loved her character, she was snarky, fun, sarcastic and adorable. I can totally accept she's probably just a robot and was never a real person, but i still have that little glimmer of hope she might have been a human at some point who was kidnapped and replicated. I'd like to think I'm not one of those psychotic fans of her, though. Given that I can completely accept she probably won't return, as much as I'd love her to.

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03-08-2015, 04:33 PM	#81
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,293	Loved these episodes. Lots of fun nods to things past, and an actually very fun story. One thing that still kinda weirds me out is Leo's being the one turtle the most antagonistic of Slash. I'd figure Raph would still have the most anger at Slash, and Slash has appeared since he thrashed the brothers, so why is Leo so bent out of shape NOW? Because Slash as leader is some fun-house mirror image of him? __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

03-08-2015, 04:40 PM	#83
Powder 40 Years of TMNT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell-Ri-La Posts: 26,945	Animen = animal men. Ya know, like Mutanimals = mutant animals. It's a joke, I made it up. Nobody but me is calling them that. laughing emoticon

03-08-2015, 04:50 PM	#84
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,691	They didn't defeat Kraang Prime yet, (aka the TRUE Krang), so its obvious the Kraang plot isn't wrapped up for good. My dream is to see Kraang Prime in his Android body leading an army of Rock Soldiers before he dies.

03-08-2015, 04:54 PM	#86
yellowmario27 Foot Soldier Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 133	What does everyone want to see with the karai plot? do you guys want to see her join the turtles? she is splinter's daughter, so would she live with them? will she be a member of the team?

03-08-2015, 05:57 PM	#92
Orochi Foot Soldier Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Essex, England Posts: 136	Have to admit, I love Irma and want her to be an actual real character. I miss her a lot and she was pretty much my second favourite human. I wasn't going to cause a ruckus about it though, because it's just something the writers thought would work. Just hope in the future she comes out of a Kraang ship or something and was kidnapped.

03-08-2015, 06:27 PM	#96
Powder 40 Years of TMNT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell-Ri-La Posts: 26,945	That's a fan site, run by fans, edited by fans, often times full of fake information posted by fans, etc... You Irma fans need to get a grip, it's pretty clear that Battle For NY was a big middle finger to those of you wanting her to return.