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Old 03-13-2015, 05:31 AM   #81
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but tmnt 2 2016 is going to be great.
Can I borrow your time machine? Please?
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Old 03-13-2015, 07:28 AM   #82
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I'm telling you now, Vern will become Casey Jones to win April's affections, and one of the Shreks will get Jealous.
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Hey, I've been saying that for a while, "called it" credit will have to be shared. lol But yeah, I really could see these film makers turning Casey into Vern's secret identity. Esp as a way of trying to make their version different. (Although I admit I'd be curious to see what the outrage looked like.)
...I really hate how plausible this is.

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Challenge accepted. Let's literally have a fight scene on top of a car chase. Fox O'Neil is driving the car (followed by several Hummers full of nefarious military-esque villains who are shooting at them), while two of the other characters are brawling on top of the moving vehicle that Fox is driving... we'll choose Rocksteady and Raph because it will be way brutal, brah. Rocksteady and Raph don't have to worry about the shooters who are firing, because they are both bulletproof. We throw in a little shaky-cam action so you can't really tell what's going on, a flurry of CG and bam - you've got your Bayhem. I'm telling you, the audiences will love it - don't be a hater, you just don't understand that it's popcorn entertainment, mmkay?

Now in the last movie, Vernon took out Sacks by hitting him with a microscope. In this movie, Vernon's going to take out Sacks by throwing a ham sandwich at him. Sacks will slip on it and, because he's about 60 years old, will throw out his hip - thus putting him out of action til BayTurtles 3. Audiences love bumbling anti-heroes, comedic relief and hilarious pratfalls. Don't argue with me - I am a genius and you are all just jealous hater-nerds who can't appreciate a movie without picking it to pieces.
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But Trick, I haven't even told you the best part! When Rocksteady and Raph are fighting on top of the car, one of them is going to swing at the other and miss, and their fist is gonna go right through the roof of the car, like, 2 inches from Fox's head - while she's still driving. And everyone's gonna be like "woah" because these dudes are tearing through metal like so much tissue paper!!!
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(Haha, just kidding, I'm not actually going to see this thing.)
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Again, I am going to ask "Why was Vernon in this movie?".
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Old 03-13-2015, 07:47 AM   #84
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Again, I am going to ask "Why was Vernon in this movie?".
Lip service to a character that a general audience of 30-somethings are vaguely "nostalgic" for but don't actually remember all that well. Which, as we all know, is more important than building good characters or telling an actual story.
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Lip service to a character that a general audience of 30-somethings are vaguely "nostalgic" for but don't actually remember all that well. Which, as we all know, is more important than building good characters or telling an actual story.
Because Blue Door backlash, as when presented with a choice of having to put up with either Megan Fox or Shia LaBeof, everyone would prefer Megan Fox. So no Casey Jones.
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Old 03-13-2015, 08:30 AM   #86
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Because Blue Door backlash, as when presented with a choice of having to put up with either Megan Fox or Shia LaBeof, everyone would prefer Megan Fox. So no Casey Jones.
I love how nobody involved in the process could just say (or was brave enough to say) "hey, maybe cast someone appropriate for the role" or "hey, maybe look at the source material for some ideas here" or "hey, maybe just make a Ninja Turtles movie".
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Again, I am going to ask "Why was Vernon in this movie?".
Rhetorical question, I get it, but lol, obviously the answer is that nobody, at all had a ****ing clue what they were making. TMNT was such a ****ing foreign concept to these tits, the actually brought back Vernon.

I swear they watched 1 ****ing episode of OT, flipped through an IDW comic, and felt satisfied they knew all they needed to know.

They basically made this film the way I did my book reports in highschool.

"The Count of Monte Cristo, was good friends with the Duke of Gyro, and Lady Croque-Madame, but never spoke to his cousin, Sloppy Joe."

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Rhetorical question, I get it, but lol, obviously the answer is that no one, at all had a ****ing clue what they were making. TMNT was such a ****ing foreign concept to these tits, the actually brought back Vernon.

I swear they watched 1 ****ing episode of OT, flipped through an IDW comic, and felt satisfied they knew all they needed to know.
When asked if they had considered referencing Mirage in any way for the 2014 movie, Bay likely responded, "Mirage? What's that? Are we talking about desert illusions now?"
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I still love that articles before it hit theaters mentioned Vernon as among the "fan favorites" of who was expected to be in the film. So great to know the film makers understood what was important.

Although I have to give Arnett credit for at least being a better Vern. Even if the bar was low and there wasn't much to compare to.
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I still love that articles before it hit theaters mentioned Vernon as among the "fan favorites" of who was expected to be in the film. So great to know the film makers understood what was important.

Although I have to give Arnett credit for at least being a better Vern. Even if the bar was low and there wasn't much to compare to.
Lol, sure. He's the best live action Vernon to date. He's also the worst.
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Old 03-13-2015, 06:53 PM   #91
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yes tmnt 2 is on its way and wow some of you guys should not get so crazy about a movie lol but tmnt 2 2016 is going to be great.
You're a fine one to talk Ian_Punk_03. How can you say a movie is gonna be great without seeing anything of it. but you are just sucking up to the new movie like crazy.
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Old 03-13-2015, 08:05 PM   #92
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Lol, sure. He's the best live action Vernon to date. He's also the worst.


As a character that few to none of us cared how he turned out, I'm just glad he wasn't a whining little b*tch dead set on making sure every audience member is at least tortured to some degree.
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I still love that articles before it hit theaters mentioned Vernon as among the "fan favorites" of who was expected to be in the film. So great to know the film makers understood what was important.
That's still not as bad as Sacks being listed as one of the "fan favorites" expected to be in the film.
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Again, I am going to ask "Why was Vernon in this movie?".
Because Hollywood Movie Formula 101 demands that there be a side character for comic relief. A quick glance at their Cliff's Notes for the FW cartoon showed that there was a side character called Vern whose name they could use, and bam - there's your answer.
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That's still not as bad as Sacks being listed as one of the "fan favorites" expected to be in the film.
True, very true. Had forgotten he was also included. That one's just inexcusable.
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Old 03-14-2015, 06:32 AM   #96
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You're a fine one to talk Ian_Punk_03. How can you say a movie is gonna be great without seeing anything of it. but you are just sucking up to the new movie like crazy.
wow its ok i mean its just a movie lol
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What I find delightful about you, penny, is that you adore cornball garbage in most films, yet hold TMNT to a much higher standard and will brook no such chicanery or shenanigans. Surely. (I needed one more "Sh" )

An odd bird, you are.
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Old 03-16-2015, 10:53 AM   #98
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No, this is patently f*cking false.

Michael Bay said he saw a cut, it was too serious, and HE said to lighten the thing up. Not Nick.

Michael Bay and his production studio made this film suck. Not Nick.
I'm sure the production studio made a lot of changes, but I wouldn't go as far as saying Nick didn't have a hand in this film's mediocrity. I think anyone can agree Nick would make the final say in the tone being light.

Anyways, as far as the film shooting in Albany; I think it's interesting. I would love for them to showcase all of New York and not just the city. It would feel a lot more fleshed out if they showed all the boroughs like Long Island, Queens, Brooklyn, The Bronx. I would love to see the Turtles interacting in those settings. It's cool that there's production taking place upstate.
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I think anyone can agree Nick would make the final say in the tone being light.
It was Bay's misguided decision. Factually. Aside from Nitpicks, Nick has given both their animated crew & the IDW team pretty wide creative freedom. The cartoon is full of body horror, references to adult media, & under the radar innuendo, while the comics have their fair share of bloody violence & swearing. Bay is at fault, period. He made the call to change things, at a time where I have no doubt that Nick execs already saw rough cuts of the film without taking issue.

& what's interesting about them shooting in Albany? They shot there for the last one. FYI they shot a bunch of stuff on Jones Beach, so LI is already covered.
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I guess, WTF, Will Arnett as Jones and car chase. **** it. Let's add some other random **** to the pile.

Anyone have further terrible suggestions?
Challenge accepted.

GLADIATOR, STEP INTO THE RING!

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Shredder recovers from his fall and uses a tiny bit of the mutagen to heal himself of his various injuries. He goes back to Sack's lab and brings with him Baxter Stockman, telling him and Stockman that they better work on creating more mutagen 'or else' because he wants his own mutants to better fight those 'freaks.'

Well, meanwhile April is trying to get her job back. Hanging with 4 Turtles doesn't pay the bills while living in NYC, so Bernadette decides to give her another chance just this once, mainly because she is down one or two reporters and needs someone to cover the feel good 'fluff' stories for the time being.

While traveling to one of her assigned stories, April notices something suspicious. Pulling over, she's shocked to see that it's more of the Foot, and these catch sight of her and capture her. Before she is captured, she uses the Turtlephone to try and call one of the Turtles, however she hits Vernon's number by mistake, and gets him. She still begs him to get help from the Turtles, but him wanting to be a tough guy, decides to try and rescue April himself. He uses the phone's GPS to track her last signal, and arrives at the place she's at (an abandoned warehouse.) He gets captured and tied up,and taken to Sack's and Baxter's lab along with her.

Shredder comes into the lab. He gloats that if she she is going to be Turtlebait to bring the Turtles, but because her meddling brought about so much trouble, he's going to add in a punishment. Not for her, but for her boyfriend Vernon, and she's going to watch him carry it out. April screams 'No,' and Vernon tells her, 'No matter what happens, I'll always love you."

Shredder orders Sachs and Stockman to hook Vernon up to some device with tubes, where they proceed to pump mutagen into Vernon's body, with Baxter injecting a vial of Rhino DNA into Vernon's veins. Vernon mutates, while April screams.

Meanwhile, Shredder uses the captured Turtlephone to call up one of the Turtles. He mentions that he's captured April, and that they better come before his freaks kill her.

In the background, Baxter mumbles to Sacks, 'Freaks? What freaks? We only made one." Suddenly Sacks pulls out a gun and points at him, saying, "Well, you are going to be freak number two. You are an expendable asset right now, and you know too much. Get in the other chair." Baxter is frightened, and complies by sitting in the other chair.

Sacks' ties him up, and hooks more tubes into him. He injects Warthog/Wild Boar (I can't decide which) into Baxter's arm and turns on the mutagen pumps. Baxter is screaming, while Vernon is already making rhino-like noises (whatever those sound like.)

Meanwhile, the Turtles are rushing to get to April. Mikey is having one of his moments and is exclaiming 'My precious April!" while Raph tells him to shut up. They are driving through traffic and one of the van's tires gets popped by a pot hole, forcing them to get out and travel by rooftop. Mikey complains 'Awe, we gotta walk?" while Raph deadpans a 'Well, maybe it will burn some of that pizza off your butt." Donna mentions something about triangulating Aprils' coordinates and Leo talks about making sure nobody sees them and needing to trying to find the fastest route possible to get there. Donnie suggests riding atop a train, and Leo agrees. They hop down a manhole,and find their way to a station. They all jump onto the roof of a train that Donnie says is going in that general direction, and they hop on.

Back at Sacks' lab, both men have finished mutating. They straining in their restraints, and both are making animal like noises. April has tears in her eyes, and mouthing "Vernon, Vernon..."

The Turtles' train carries them close enough, but after they jump off Donnie says that traveling on foot will still take a while for them to get there. They find a parked truck in the shadows, and Donnie breaks into it and hot wires it. Two Turtles sit in the front and two hunched down in the truck bed, and they drive the rest of the way to Sack's lab. They encounter some Foot, but their bullets don't affect the Turtles.

The Turtles burst into the lab, and Vernon and Baxter become excited and break from their restraints. The Turtles and the new mutants fight, but the new mutants end up proving to be a match for them. Mikey quips that they guys like to hit hard, and that he can't land a hit on them, and during this, one of them ends up knocking him and Donnie against the wall. They land against a wall, and Mikey quips 'We're getting tenderized dude! We gotta do something!"

*Meanwhile in the background, Shredder quietly leaves*

Well, Donnies notices that where they land is some power cables, and this gives him the germ of an idea. Looking quickly, he notices some sprinklers on the ceiling, and a plan now fully forms. He yells, "Guys, get to someplace non-conducting quickly!" The other three look at him for a moment, and then quickly scramble for anything non metal to stand on. Mikey grabs April and goes for a pile of rubber mats, Raph, goes for a stack of wooden pallets, and Leo goes for a sturdy desk. Donnie jumps up, and whips out a cigarette lighter as he gets a hold of a beam, and lights it under a sprinkler head. The sprinklers activate, and Donnie yells, 'Guys, cut open those power cords!" The guys all throw their shuriken at it, and the power cords start to spark in the water. Vernon and Baxter are caught in the electrical discharge, and are electrocuted to death.

Soon the power stops, and Donnie determines that it's safe to step down now because a fuse blew and cut the electricity. They free April and she's crying, and runs over to Vernon. He's clearly dead, and the Turtles decide they better get leaving and not risk sticking around.

Donnie decides hot wires a Clan Humvee, because there isn't enough room with April now. Two Turtles ride in the Humvee and two are in the truck, and Mikey is consoling April. In the background of the lab, there is another Foot soldier watching them through a window as they are leaving. He tears off his mask, although we only see him from the back. He turns, and the screen fades to black. *It turns out to be Casey Jones*
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