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Old 05-19-2015, 12:46 PM   #21
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Old 05-19-2015, 01:16 PM   #22
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If they want to take inspirations from the 2012 cartoon (which itself uses much 1987 cartoon nostaliga), there are as many Kraang as Utroms in Mirage comics-2003 cartoon....
Because the current cartoon isn't the one late-20 somethings and up remember fondly from their childhood.

The people behind this movie clearly don't give a crap, especially considering someone was quoted as saying "we're trying to fit them(Bebop and Rocksteady) into the movie."

Because it's not about telling a good story or caring about the characters or the movie you're making for these people, it's about doing their own thing because they want to and shoving in as much "fan service" as they possibly can. And even their fan service sucks.

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What does it matter? All the Michael Bay tools will love it anyway.
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Old 05-19-2015, 01:48 PM   #23
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Old 05-19-2015, 01:55 PM   #24
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Old 05-19-2015, 02:16 PM   #25
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If this is true, Krang will be the grand finale. It'd honestly be cool if they ended the movie on a cliffhanger. Have the whole movie be about the Turtles trying to stop Krang, and they fail, and the next movie will be about stopping him from tearing the world apart.
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Old 05-19-2015, 02:24 PM   #26
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If this is true, Krang will be the grand finale. It'd honestly be cool if they ended the movie on a cliffhanger. Have the whole movie be about the Turtles trying to stop Krang, and they fail, and the next movie will be about stopping him from tearing the world apart.
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Old 05-19-2015, 02:26 PM   #27
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If they want Krang so badly then why not just use the Utroms instead since there's more than one of them?
Exactly, use the utroms instead. It is a really interesting part of the universe which could work quite well on the big screen plus it would not be necessary to develop another character in the same way they need to do with Krang in a movie with several new characters already. Also, I have a bad feeling with all these Fred Wolf characters. Instead of focusing on the good story it seems like they focus to much on making us all feel nostalgic. Hopefully Bebop and Rocksteady will be badass and not just another source of oneliners...
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Old 05-19-2015, 03:05 PM   #28
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I doubt they'll use Utroms since this is obviously based around the version of TMNT most people are familiar with (80s and current cartoon). And Krang, Bebop, Rocksteady and Shredder all go hand in hand in those versions.
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Old 05-19-2015, 03:39 PM   #29
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Possibly April looking up towards the 'invasion' of the Krangg

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Old 05-19-2015, 04:22 PM   #30
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Hopefully Bebop and Rocksteady will be badass and not just another source of oneliners...
They'll be an endless stream of one liners if we're lucky. They could also have zero lines after they're mutated. Or be barely coherent bumbling animals.

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Old 05-19-2015, 05:15 PM   #31
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Because the current cartoon isn't the one late-20 somethings and up remember fondly from their childhood.
And here is the huge irony of this movie series. They desperately want to hook in the older audience with hype over these characters from a nostalgia based version without actually being like said version. Once that is pointed out of course it all becomes "well it's not for us, it's for the new generation" which is an even bigger irony as it bares no relation to the current animated series popular with children either.

I don't think it'd be hard to strike a balance between versions that would satisfy a broad audience - after all the 1990 movie did it with the Mirage and Fred Wolf versions but if they aren't going to please long-time fans it's rather sad kids wont get their version on the big screen either.

And yes adding in Krang as anything but a tease for a potential third movie is over crowding this movie. I know I'm not the only person who feels the first movie was eerily similar to the Amazing Spider-Man not just in terms of it's content (pretty much everyone thought that) but in terms of how people looked at it as in "it made enough money for a sequel" and "made a lot overseas". It looks like the sequel will follow the same fate as that series with throwing everything at the wall. In fact I wonder if that isn't a factor here; as in they know a third go-around may not be financially feasible so stick everything in this movie.

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Old 05-19-2015, 05:36 PM   #32
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Great, let's add Rat King, Leatherhead, Chrome Dome & Pinky Mcfingers while we're at it! Let everyone get a scene! Turtle who?
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Old 05-19-2015, 05:49 PM   #33
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Bay might as well make a Justice Force spinoff while he's at it..

I can see it now...The camera pans over Dr. Dome then all of a sudden ....EXPLOSIONS!! EXPLOSIONS!! EXPLOSIONS!! APRIL!! EXPLOSIONS!!! THE END...

...Roll credits
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Old 05-19-2015, 06:06 PM   #35
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And here is the huge irony of this movie series. They desperately want to hook in the older audience with hype over these characters from a nostalgia based version without actually being like said version. Once that is pointed out of course it all becomes "well it's not for us, it's for the new generation" which is an even bigger irony as it bares no relation to the current animated series popular with children either.

I don't think it'd be hard to strike a balance between versions that would satisfy a broad audience - after all the 1990 movie did it with the Mirage and Fred Wolf versions but if they aren't going to please long-time fans it's rather sad kids wont get their version on the big screen either.


And yes adding in Krang as anything but a tease for a potential third movie is over crowding this movie. I know I'm not the only person who feels the first movie was eerily similar to the Amazing Spider-Man not just in terms of it's content (pretty much everyone thought that) but in terms of how people looked at it as in "it made enough money for a sequel" and "made a lot overseas". It looks like the sequel will follow the same fate as that series with throwing everything at the wall. In fact I wonder if that isn't a factor here; as in they know a third go-around may not be financially feasible so stick everything in this movie.
You're goddamn right.

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Old 05-19-2015, 06:15 PM   #36
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It is only a rumor, but I honestly hope they don't shove in Krang as a last minute addition. It'd be like Amazing Spider-Man 2 or Spider-Man 3 where too much added to the film causes an incoherent narrative, major scene removal, and underdeveloped characters. Then again, this is a film with Michael Bay on the set assisting, so two of these things are happening no matter what.

Just set Krang up near the end, surprising audiences with his appearance and have him prepare to enter the Earth, giving us a sneak preview of the Technodrome. Then use him as a villain in the next movie.

Considering Baxter will be minor most likely (favorite villain getting the shaft sadly), Bebop and Rocksteady appearing, and Eric Sachs and a generic Shredder and possibly Karai, this is a major recipe for disaster if the rumors are true and Krang gets a major role here. I'm skeptical still though, so we'll have to see.
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Old 05-19-2015, 06:27 PM   #38
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Just like the Nick cartoon... they want to shove in as many mutants/villains/side characters to impress the viewer in what they have included, rather than focusing on the Turtles themselves. Both Nick and these Bay films sure love to milk the nostalgia...
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The only way to truly kill the movie is to introduce the two most loathed characters.

I present to you:

Venus de Milo and Zach.
Allright! yeah son, let's f'n do this!

Time to start the Halt and Catch Fire campaign for this POS

We should flood Reddit with demands for Venus, and any other shite from the past.

It's time to burn this f'ker down.


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Just like the Nick cartoon... they want to shove in as many mutants/villains/side characters to impress the viewer in what they have included, rather than focusing on the Turtles themselves. Both Nick and these Bay films sure love to milk the nostalgia...


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rather than focusing on the Turtles themselves.
THAT'S blatantly untrue. The Turtles are without a doubt the stars of their own cartoon. The complete opposite of BayTurtles.

And as far as "shoving in" a bunch of characters. Nick Turtles is a multi-season episodic tv show.

BayTurtles is a 90 minute-ish movie.

One of them has the luxury of having a lot of characters. The other doesn't.

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BayTurtles milks nostalgia to try and cash in on it. Nick Turtles are made by fans for fans AND a new audience, striking a nice balance between both.

Try harder.
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