Should the Turtles be redesigned for the sequel? - Page 10

*IndigoErth* · 09-15-2015, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by General_Krang

That's the thing, they were never aliens. Bay is on record saying they have an alien "origin" which he later confirmed meant the ooze

You never fully read the original blue door script, did you. I eventually looked it up (late last year or so) and stayed up all night reading the thing.

I'm sorry, but Bay lied. He "Donald Trumped" that lie and covered his ass with what we thought we'd believe.

In that script, in the end, they do indeed turn out to be aliens. The Turtles straight up find that they are from a different world of other people who look like them; the four of them were sent/taken to Earth as babies to protect them (because they had a special destiny - for some reason), with Splinter as their guardian who kept it secret from them, and in the end they have to leave Earth forever, part ways and never to see each other again, to go individually protect four different... what ever it was that was that would keep dimensions from colliding. Mikey even comments about possibly meeting girls from their home world. Yes... I'm sorry, but they were going to be aliens, it was not simply ooze of "alien origin."

~~Leo656~~ · 09-15-2015, 11:40 PM

And then Bay was all, "Psssshhhhh, DUH! I totally didn't mean THAT, that was like, old junk or whatever! No, we TOTALLY are gonna do the thing with the ooze or whetever, like you said. For reals." But there's like dated documents that disprove that because they were from like right before or right after he said that.

It's a tangled web. No sir, I don't like it.

Leolead · 09-16-2015, 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by TigerClaw

I like the new designs, The nostrils and everything didn't bother me, Besides, The designs should stay the same, Except maybe they could use less clothing and less accessories, Besides, For continuity sake, They have to look like they did before.

They are currently using a placeholder model for Leo and Raph on the set, And judging from it, They will look the same.

http://meganfoxworld.net/gallery/alb...10001/45~6.jpg

And judging from the size of the hand touching the placeholder, it looks like they'll be at least a LITTLE BIT smaller than they were in the last film, and Leo doesn't appear to be wearing any shoulder pads either, so they might have gotten rid of at least SOME of the clothing too.

I think it's worth mentioning that Leo's face seems to have been slightly tweaked also.

I like'em from what I can see on the placeholder.

Myko · 09-16-2015, 05:51 AM

Someone elsewhere in the forum has determined that that was the same placeholder used when shooting the first movie. Any discrepancies between it and the final CGI was because of design changes between making the placeholder and the CGI model.

It's also entirely possible to use this placeholder and have the CGI look completely different. I'm assuming they use this mostly to get the colors right in CGI.

*IndigoErth* · 09-16-2015, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Myko

Someone elsewhere in the forum has determined that that was the same placeholder used when shooting the first movie.

A number of weeks ago I did come across an old pic from the making of the first film that, while not entirely clear, did appear to have the same piece somewhere in the image. Wish I could remember where I saw that.

Leolead · 09-16-2015, 07:25 PM

Well, I guess that's the end of that Placeholder nonsense, lol.

No, but seriously, the Turtles NEED to be smaller this time around.. I mean, how are Raph & Casey going to have their iconic fight scene if Raph is like 7"6' and roided out? Raph could literally snap Casey in half! how are the Foot - Who are actual Ninjas this time around and don't appear to be wielding any guns - going to offer any compelling action sequences if the Turtles can just swat them away like flies? how is a human-sized Shredder going to go up again these Turtles???? Bebop and & Rocksteady are at least going to need to be 10/11 ft tall to pose any kind of threat to these guys.

They NEED to be scaled down a few inches, and I know a lot of people who like how big they are, are trying to use the "continuity" argument. But honestly? NO ONE is going to even give a **** or look twice if they made them a couple inches smaller! no one in the general audience will care! so **** continuity!

And Donnie needs to lose that Ghostbusters backpack.

*Galactus* · 09-16-2015, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Leolead

I know a lot of people who like how big they are, are trying to use the "continuity" argument.

Do people like it though?

As far as I can tell the people who like the movie's various changes to the franchise most of them seem pretty open that they really like and support most anything TMNT if it was a big production.

If they'd make the exact opposite changes like small, ultra cutesy turtles they'd just as vehemently defend that too so why not change them? The fact that some have become so entrenched now doesn't mean they wont become un-trenched if the sequel goes in a different direction. And hey if the movie doesn't work out they can blame it all on them changing things to "please the fans".

Bombshell · 09-16-2015, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Leolead

I know a lot of people who like how big they are, are trying to use the "continuity" argument.

I don't like how big they are, but I'd like to see consistency. Its always been a pet peeve of mine that they change in every movie. The first three movies went from great to awful when it came to designs. Although I dislike how large the turtles are this time around and I'm not a fan of Mike or Raph's appearances, I'd like to see them consistently designed in a way that doesn't make you sit back and wonder if a bus hit them to change their appearance between each movie.

syk_skillz · 09-20-2015, 10:07 AM

Wish it could be some kinda explanation that they got some kinda sickness Donnie ended up stopping between movies that caused them to shrink in muscle mass and height some due to mutation reversing effects on their body. I want them to be smaller badly with some reason to it.

Roitorb · 09-21-2015, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Myko

Someone elsewhere in the forum has determined that that was the same placeholder used when shooting the first movie. Any discrepancies between it and the final CGI was because of design changes between making the placeholder and the CGI model.

It's also entirely possible to use this placeholder and have the CGI look completely different. I'm assuming they use this mostly to get the colors right in CGI.

If you mean the place holders then they use them for the actors to have correct eye contact with the characters.

Roitorb · 09-21-2015, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by syk_skillz

Wish it could be some kinda explanation that they got some kinda sickness Donnie ended up stopping between movies that caused them to shrink in muscle mass and height some due to mutation reversing effects on their body. I want them to be smaller badly with some reason to it.

Why not just use the scene where they have there blood drained as an excuse for their reduction in size.

As the blood was drained so was the mutagen levels in their bodies, simple lol

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 09-21-2015, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Roitorb

Why not just use the scene where they have there blood drained as an excuse for their reduction in size.

As the blood was drained so was the mutagen levels in their bodies, simple lol

Except Raph wasn't affected. Do you guys really want Gameraph next to his three midget brothers?

*IndigoErth* · 09-21-2015, 01:31 PM

Three of them all lose up to a foot in height while Raph is still huge. No doubt they wouldn't have Raph just let that go unmentioned, so there's a kick to the ego, poor babies. But by the end Raph learns they have the advantage after all (prob when his butt can't get through the manhole).

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 09-21-2015, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by IndigoErth

Three of them all lose up to a foot in height while Raph is still huge. No doubt they wouldn't have Raph just let that go unmentioned, so there's a kick to the ego, poor babies. But by the end Raph learns they have the advantage after all (prob when his butt can't get through the manhole).

So then... what? Raph goes on the Medifast diet?

*IndigoErth* · 09-21-2015, 02:03 PM

Nah, they just drain him a bit then keep it on a shelf in case they need a cure for eminent death.

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 09-21-2015, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by IndigoErth

Nah, they just drain him a bit then keep it on a shelf in case they need a cure for eminent death.

Perfect. Or... should I? Yes, I will.

Mikey uses the excess mutagen drained from Raph on April to create Venus de Milo. Allow your collective imaginations to continue the story from there.

*Foombamaroom* · 09-21-2015, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

Perfect. Or... should I? Yes, I will.

Mikey uses the excess mutagen drained from Raph on April to create Venus de Milo. Allow your collective imaginations to continue the story from there.

...And he thought April made his shell tight.

All I'm picturing now is that new movie "The Perfect Guy" where the Stalker (Mieky) is stalking the girl he loves (April) and wants to kill the boyfriend (Casey.).

The Perfect Turtle, coming to sewers this June!

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 09-21-2015, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Foombamaroom

...And he thought April made his shell tight.

All I'm picturing now is that new movie "The Perfect Guy" where the Stalker (Mieky) is stalking the girl he loves (April) and wants to kill the boyfriend (Casey.).

The Perfect Turtle, coming to sewers this June!

Don't EVER pair those two words together when speaking of a Michael Bay movie! Go wash your mouth out with soap, right frakking now!!!!

*Luckyday* · 09-21-2015, 08:35 PM

YES. BURN IT ALL. BURN EVERYTHING!!!

Then let it rise like a glorious phoenix.

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 09-21-2015, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Luckyday

YES. BURN IT ALL. BURN EVERYTHING!!!http://www.narutoforums.com/images/s...es2/omges1.png
http://lh3.ggpht.com/-aEkkNgpuFcQ/VE...gif?imgmax=800

Then let it rise like a glorious phoenix.

Somebody turn on Fall Out Boy!

09-16-2015, 07:25 PM	#186
Leolead Stone Warrior Join Date: May 2014 Location: Cali Posts: 909	Well, I guess that's the end of that Placeholder nonsense, lol. No, but seriously, the Turtles NEED to be smaller this time around.. I mean, how are Raph & Casey going to have their iconic fight scene if Raph is like 7"6' and roided out? Raph could literally snap Casey in half! how are the Foot - Who are actual Ninjas this time around and don't appear to be wielding any guns - going to offer any compelling action sequences if the Turtles can just swat them away like flies? how is a human-sized Shredder going to go up again these Turtles???? Bebop and & Rocksteady are at least going to need to be 10/11 ft tall to pose any kind of threat to these guys. They NEED to be scaled down a few inches, and I know a lot of people who like how big they are, are trying to use the "continuity" argument. But honestly? NO ONE is going to even give a ** or look twice if they made them a couple inches smaller! no one in the general audience will care! so ** continuity! And Donnie needs to lose that Ghostbusters backpack. __________________

09-20-2015, 10:07 AM	#189
syk_skillz Foot Soldier Join Date: May 2004 Location: Flint, Michigan Posts: 248	Wish it could be some kinda explanation that they got some kinda sickness Donnie ended up stopping between movies that caused them to shrink in muscle mass and height some due to mutation reversing effects on their body. I want them to be smaller badly with some reason to it. __________________

09-15-2015, 11:40 PM	#182
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	And then Bay was all, "Psssshhhhh, DUH! I totally didn't mean THAT, that was like, old junk or whatever! No, we TOTALLY are gonna do the thing with the ooze or whetever, like you said. For reals." But there's like dated documents that disprove that because they were from like right before or right after he said that. It's a tangled web. No sir, I don't like it.

09-16-2015, 05:51 AM	#184
Myko Thug Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Sweden Posts: 73	Someone elsewhere in the forum has determined that that was the same placeholder used when shooting the first movie. Any discrepancies between it and the final CGI was because of design changes between making the placeholder and the CGI model. It's also entirely possible to use this placeholder and have the CGI look completely different. I'm assuming they use this mostly to get the colors right in CGI.

09-21-2015, 01:31 PM	#193
IndigoErth Team Blue Boy Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: U.S., East Coast Posts: 16,295	Three of them all lose up to a foot in height while Raph is still huge. No doubt they wouldn't have Raph just let that go unmentioned, so there's a kick to the ego, poor babies. But by the end Raph learns they have the advantage after all (prob when his butt can't get through the manhole).

09-21-2015, 02:03 PM	#195
IndigoErth Team Blue Boy Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: U.S., East Coast Posts: 16,295	Nah, they just drain him a bit then keep it on a shelf in case they need a cure for eminent death.