TMNT Superbowl Trailer - Page 27

*Candy Kappa* · 02-16-2016, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by samxsteal

I always felt the mirage and fw Casey had shorter hair not buzzed but spikey messy hair. But it wasn't long like the 90s movie. I honestly think I prefer shorter hair then shoulder length

Sure. Casey in the 1009 movie had one of the longer hair styles, but.

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*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 02-16-2016, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

Sure. Casey in the 1009 movie had one of the longer hair styles, but.

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If it please the court, the prosecution will at this time present Exhibits A through H.

RETTEB SNATAS · 02-16-2016, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

Sure. Casey in the 1009 movie had one of the longer hair styles, but.

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Gotcha, I wish they would have let some length happen in the new film, but It won't kill it for me anyway.

Technogeek29 · 02-16-2016, 12:27 PM

Shortest haired versions of the character are

Nick

IDW

Compared to most versions.

EDIT: Even Nick Casey looks very much not right in the head, IDW Casey may be the most sane but for how long is the question?

*neatoman* · 02-16-2016, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

Sure. Casey in the 1009 movie had one of the longer hair styles

Damn dude, I didn't know there was a TMNT movie in 1009, let alone camera technology.

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 02-16-2016, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by neatoman

Damn dude, I didn't know there was a TMNT movie in 1009, let alone camera technology.

Time travel confirmed.

*Candy Kappa* · 02-16-2016, 12:59 PM

The Vikings was ahead of their time in more things then boat building.

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 02-16-2016, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

The Vikings was ahead of their time in more things then boat building.

Ever since that guy in the flying blue box, they've just been KILLING it in civilization development.

*Bry* · 02-16-2016, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

Sure. Casey in the 1009 movie had one of the longer hair styles, but.

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Originally Posted by Technogeek29

Shortest haired versions of the character are

Nick
http://comicsalliance.com/files/2013...mntnewmain.jpg

IDW
http://4thletter.net/wp-content/uploads//ntcasey.jpg

Compared to most versions.

EDIT: Even Nick Casey looks very much not right in the head, IDW Casey may be the most sane but for how long is the question?

So basically every version of the character has shaggy and/or messy dark hair and an all-around grungy, rough "look".

BayCasey is a clean-cut blonde guy who looks like an Abercrombie model.

*TrickOrTreater* · 02-16-2016, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Bry

So basically every version of the character has shaggy and/or messy dark hair and an all-around grungy, rough "look".

BayCasey is a clean-cut blonde guy who looks like an Abercrombie model.

And people are a-okay with that because lemmings!

d_osborn · 02-16-2016, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TrickOrTreater

And people are a-okay with that because lemmings!

I grew up with an Amiga 500. Lemmings was fantastic.

I'm with you guys, though. Casey looks or feels nothing like Casey. Paul Dano would have been an interesting, non-macho take. I love seeing Casey as a broke, on-edge nutcase. I don't think he would have even considered touching it, though. Great actor!

*Bry* · 02-16-2016, 03:37 PM

And even though I know I'm repeating myself now, character design is important. It serves an essential storytelling purpose. How a character looks, how they dress, how they keep their hair, it all tells you about their personality. It's visual shorthand, it's "show, don't tell". Ideally you can give the audience a solid idea of that character's personality, even parts of their back story, without them saying a word. And that's important because it means you get to skip the excessive exposition and get to the point of the story.

Character design isn't arbitrary. Is very important and needs a lot of thought and effort put into it. Character design is part of what the character is. If you completely change the design, you effectively change the character just as much.

I just find it funny in this case, where they effectively stripped Casey of all of his personality, but for the Turtles they completely cover them with a bunch of ridiculous, clowny flair and nonsense that goes way too far in the other direction. These guys do not have a deft hand, that much is clear.

*TrickOrTreater* · 02-16-2016, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by d_osborn

I grew up with an Amiga 500. Lemmings was fantastic.
http://i.imgur.com/il2KfiU.jpg

Pizza wasn't popular in the U.S. until after WWII, when U.S. troops (including Dwight Eisenhower) returned home from occupied Italy with an appreciation for Italian pizza.

*Galactus* · 02-16-2016, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by samxsteal

You guys are the people straight up saying anyone who is excited for this movie is stupid or mentally slow. Or some how lower then your almight selves.

Is that any different from you implying some people on here were idiots a year ago for not seeing how "obvious" it was the 2014 was using the IDW reincarnation origin?

Or how about smugly saying you were laughing at us and describing us as paranoid and crazy for not buying their **** n' bull story that the re-shoots were just pickups to accommodate Fox's post pregnancy figure and not significantly altering major parts of the movie?

Or how you tried to shut down suggestions that William Fichtner was ever supposed to be the Shredder and claiming we all fell in to their trap and got played?

Turns out we were right about everything and you were the one that was wrong. Perhaps you should consider that we're not too far off the mark and we've earned the right to say we know better when it come to this movie series.

On the subject at hand as you might have figured out by now I'm a traditionalist when it comes to character designs but generally don't care too much about hair style or eye color unless it's intrinsic to the character's look. For example I couldn't give a crap about whether Megan Fox had red hair or not but strangely I do care about Casey's long hair. I think it's because of Casey's new mask, the hair would make help break it up so it wouldn't look like that thing is encompassing his entire head. As others have said the whole look is just too clean cut in general. Of course that's because by their own admission they are reinventing the character which in itself is bizarre given that they are giving us the hard sell on how this movie is ultra faithful and pulling from various sources etc. Doesn't bode well for the rest of the movie being faithful to the canon, does it?

DevilSpooky · 02-16-2016, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Bry

When has anyone said any of that? Seriously. I know I haven't.

Not wanting to take sides or even want to be a part of this stupid discussion but really? What about this one? Or this one where they outright called TigerClaw a retard? (a Mod actually deleted so here's a quote someone made to the original while he himself was aproving the insult). Or this gold one that roleplays the forum as an asylum where the inmates are the ones that actually like the movie where the "haters" are the doctors and staff.

So yeah, it appears everyone should accept others opinions, unless the others are the ones that actually liked the damn movie...

~~Leo656~~ · 02-16-2016, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Bry

When has anyone said any of that? Seriously. I know I haven't.

I probably have. I'm pretty sure of it.

Not sorry. I mean it's no different from when someone tells me they're a huge Grateful Dead fan, like, "Thanks, it's best I know you have horrible taste and opinions before I waste any of my time talking to you."

It's never been personal, guys. I just like knowing how to approach people as individuals; knowing who's full of sh*t helps expedite things.

d_osborn · 02-16-2016, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by TrickOrTreater

Pizza wasn't popular in the U.S. until after WWII, when U.S. troops (including Dwight Eisenhower) returned home from occupied Italy with an appreciation for Italian pizza.

So because I posted a smart ass reply to a lemmings comment (honestly, it was a great game), I like my TMNT as pizza fiends? How on Earth did you come to that conclusion?

I mean, it's an interesting fact. Don't get me wrong. I was hoping the Casey fan-casting comment would lead to more discussion than the Lemmings thing.

Myko · 02-17-2016, 01:45 AM

My mental image of the new mask was much worse than what it is, looking at that picture on the last page. If he had had long hair and not the male model appearance I think it could've looked decent enough.

*TrickOrTreater* · 02-17-2016, 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Galactus

Is that any different from you implying some people on here were idiots a year ago for not seeing how "obvious" it was the 2014 was using the IDW reincarnation origin?

Or how about smugly saying you were laughing at us and describing us as paranoid and crazy for not buying their **** n' bull story that the re-shoots were just pickups to accommodate Fox's post pregnancy figure and not significantly altering major parts of the movie?

Or how you tried to shut down suggestions that William Fichtner was ever supposed to be the Shredder and claiming we all fell in to their trap and got played?

Turns out we were right about everything and you were the one that was wrong. Perhaps you should consider that we're not too far off the mark and we've earned the right to say we know better when it come to this movie series.

On the subject at hand as you might have figured out by now I'm a traditionalist when it comes to character designs but generally don't care too much about hair style or eye color unless it's intrinsic to the character's look. For example I couldn't give a crap about whether Megan Fox had red hair or not but strangely I do care about Casey's long hair. I think it's because of Casey's new mask, the hair would make help break it up so it wouldn't look like that thing is encompassing his entire head. As others have said the whole look is just too clean cut in general. Of course that's because by their own admission they are reinventing the character which in itself is bizarre given that they are giving us the hard sell on how this movie is ultra faithful and pulling from various sources etc. Doesn't bode well for the rest of the movie being faithful to the canon, does it?

He should, but he won't.

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Originally Posted by DevilSpooky

Not wanting to take sides or even want to be a part of this stupid discussion but really? What about this one? Or this one where they outright called TigerClaw a retard? (a Mod actually deleted so here's a quote someone made to the original while he himself was aproving the insult). Or this gold one that roleplays the forum as an asylum where the inmates are the ones that actually like the movie where the "haters" are the doctors and staff.

So yeah, it appears everyone should accept others opinions, unless the others are the ones that actually liked the damn movie...

Oh no. One "elitist snob" post, one semi-rude post, and one silly joke post made as a silly joke.

How utterly terrible.

I'll get the after school special group in here and we'll have a pow-wow.

*Bry* · 02-17-2016, 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by DevilSpooky

Not wanting to take sides or even want to be a part of this stupid discussion but really? What about this one? Or this one where they outright called TigerClaw a retard? (a Mod actually deleted so here's a quote someone made to the original while he himself was aproving the insult). Or this gold one that roleplays the forum as an asylum where the inmates are the ones that actually like the movie where the "haters" are the doctors and staff.

Okay, fair enough. There was some rudeness. I don't have time to go archive-diving myself, but I promise you there's been plenty of it going the opposite direction as well. Hell, I remember how bad things got when the first BayTurtles movie came out, and it sure as hell wasn't one-sided. Just read Galactus' post above yours. Plenty of people have been insulted, flamed, and mocked by people on Sam's "side" for their criticisms... which turned out to be 100% correct.

Besides. In this particular case? Things were actually pretty civil at first. Until Sam couldn't handle his arguments being disproven, until he kept changing what his argument even was, trying to reframe the debate and shift the goalposts so he could be "right" even though nothing he said held up. See how that could get frustrating?

He's absolutely entitled to his opinions, but he's not entitled to have other people agree with them, or accept his "facts" as true when they're not. He likes the movies, he's motivated to defend them, and he'll make whatever defense he can to support his bias. And when the same routine plays out again and again and again... I think it's kind of understandable when some people lose the kid gloves.

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Originally Posted by DevilSpooky

So yeah, it appears everyone should accept others opinions, unless the others are the ones that actually liked the damn movie...

Speaking for myself, at least? I didn't say his opinions weren't "accepted". I've said repeatedly that anyone's allowed to like whatever they like. That's totally valid.

But if someone's trying to refute someone else's opinions with "facts" that are disproven and/or totally false, why would anyone else give them a free pass? Why should they?

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Myko Thug Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Sweden Posts: 73	My mental image of the new mask was much worse than what it is, looking at that picture on the last page. If he had had long hair and not the male model appearance I think it could've looked decent enough.