Official Ep Discussion S4 Ep 12: Evil of Lord Dregg - Page 2

OrangeNinja1987 · 04-10-2016, 09:53 AM

It was an okay episode. I don't have much to say. The shipping stuff was mostly bearable but I got tired of it fast.
Raph and Mona have known each other how long? And they're already in love?
I can chock that up to dramatic teen relationships.
A couple funny jokes, but not one that I remembered.
Easily the best part was when Raph went berserk. From all the downplayed ninja action this season, it feels like I haven't seen something like that for a looooooong time.
I still hate how April only shoots a gun. What was the point of that multi-season story of her becoming a kunoichi if she never uses her skills?! In one of the last episodes of her training, she was even sparring with Leo!
7/10

*Vicky82* · 04-10-2016, 09:58 AM

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Raphael in rage mode was unstoppable, haven't seen him this furious since "the good, the bad, and Casey jones", It was cool.

He had a big furious moment in The Invasion.

Yeah I liked that too he was awesome.

The Raph fans should have liked it also but they will ignore it and still moan about Raph and Mona Lisa's relationship.

*TigerClaw* · 04-10-2016, 09:59 AM

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Yeah I liked that too he was awesome.

The Raph fans should have liked it also but they will ignore it and still moan about Mona Lisa.

I'm glad it will continue, the more Mona Lisa, the better, screw those haters.

*Powder* · 04-10-2016, 10:01 AM

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Yeah I liked that too he was awesome.

The Raph fans should have liked it also but they will ignore it and still moan about Raph and Mona Lisa's relationship.

I'm not even a Raph fan but c'mon, one small moment of action doesn't make up for all the brain fog & sappy stuff.

*drgon78* · 04-10-2016, 10:03 AM

Good episode, good fighting, strange world, I am really enjoying the space arc, I will be sad when it ends.

*Vicky82* · 04-10-2016, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Powder

I'm not even a Raph fan but c'mon, one small moment of action doesn't make up for all the brain fog & sappy stuff.

The sappy stuff wasn't as bad as it was in The War For Dimension X (Raph and Mona were nose touching every few minutes), to me it seemed a lot better.

*NinjaPug* · 04-10-2016, 10:14 AM

I'd be pissed if I was a Raph fan watching this episode. He lost his will to fight because Mona betrayed them? Give me a break.

Mona is a weird situation for me. I want more female characters on this show but if her character is going to continue to be portrayed in this manner (specifically the relationship with Raph) then I want them to get rid of her.

*Vicky82* · 04-10-2016, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by NinjaPug

I'd be pissed if I was a Raph fan watching this episode. He lost his will to fight because Mona betrayed them? Give me a break.

Ok so if your partner betrayed you, you probably would act like that.

*TigerClaw* · 04-10-2016, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Vicky82

Ok so if your partner betrayed you, you probably would act like that.

Yeah, Raph is an emotional guy.

*NinjaPug* · 04-10-2016, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Vicky82

Ok so if your partner betrayed you, you probably would act like that.

What a weird response by trying to compare this to real life. It's ok. You don't have to try and justify everything people didn't like about the episode.

Prototype · 04-10-2016, 11:05 AM

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Or will it be nothing but kissy face between him and Mona?

As long as they leave out Raph doing the gender twisting pose I'm OK with it.
If it was funny, then okey cool...but it's not. It's stupid and getting old fast.

I thought there would be some sort of hiatus for the show by now.

*Vicky82* · 04-10-2016, 11:24 AM

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As long as they leave out Raph doing the gender twisting pose I'm OK with it.
If it was funny, then okey cool...but it's not. It's stupid and getting old fast.

I thought there would be some sort of hiatus for the show by now.

It looks like The hiatus will happen after Earth's Last Stand and I guess that will be at least 2 1/2 months because of the movie coming out.

~~TMNTInsighter~~ · 04-10-2016, 11:30 AM

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Ok so if your partner betrayed you, you probably would act like that.

Exactly! ...Though I can understand Mona's and Sal's reasoning for it.

I've always imagined that the most prominent fear of the turtles, especially Raphael, is being betrayed by their friends/comrades/allies. Raphael, being the stubborn and angry individual as he is, still does yearn for someone to trust and reach out to; afterall, having many (human) friends is a luxury that's impossible to come by too much, even more so given Raph's mood and psychological mindset. If, God forbid, he should find himself in a badly beaten position only to look up and see the face of a betrayer looking down unsympathetically at him, you can only imagine the mix of berserk fury, utter sadness, and blame for being such a fool swirling around his mind all at the same time and it could devastate him beyond repair if he survives.
The other turtles all have the same fear inside but to a smaller extent. This series in particular, Donatello has a rivalry with Casey for April's affections. However, we've seen in other episodes that they're always able to put it aside when necessary and when the other needs help. Imagine a nightmare in Donnie's mind though, where it plays out the other way and Casey, alone with Don in a life and death struggle against an enemy, in fact leaves him for dead so that the competition is eliminated.
Mikey is basically a lover--I've always joked that his heart's way too big for there to be room for a brain. The only pain and fear that he and Leo really feel is loss rather than betrayal. Loss is so constantly on Leo's mind he almost doesn't have time for those thoughts. They can expect betrayal from an enemy, but not someone they've put trust in. How they would feel about betrayal outside the results of losing one of their own family would be unknown, but if it did indeed happen, the consequences on their psyches would be enormous for sure.

*pannoni1* · 04-10-2016, 12:49 PM

This episode I'll have to admit was a bit underachieving in terms of what I hope it would be. If you like the shipping/emotional stuff, it was quite a surprised, but otherwise it turned out to be just a filler episode in terms of the overall story. As others have said, Casey continues to get the short end of the stick, Raph more prominent, and Armaggon was just so stupid you couldn't feel for him.

Show grade: 6/10

*Utrommaniac* · 04-10-2016, 12:52 PM

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*Autbot_Benz* · 04-10-2016, 01:01 PM

shippers ruin everything first Arrow and now Turtles. I jab at the people who whine about Raph on this show but I actually side with them a bit on this episode . That was pathetic he couldn't fight because of Mona.

Raphael:
Ugh! Where do they come up with this stuff?

*Vicky82* · 04-10-2016, 01:06 PM

I've noticed that Mikey has been awesome this season. He seems more focus, he hasn't made any mistakes.

He's been amazing these last few episode. Last week he saved April, killed some of those gremlins, he supported and cheered Donnie up. This week, he saved April again, killed some bugs, he was concerned for Donie and he was being protective over Raph when Leo was annoyed at him.

I hope his amazing moments continues.

*Hero* · 04-10-2016, 01:51 PM

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*ranger_scout* · 04-10-2016, 02:06 PM

I thought that today's episode was one of the better ones from this season. It kind of had a Return of Jedi feel to it since the heroes had to avoid being digested by a pit monster very similar to the the Sarlacc. Another highlight for me was the reaction Raph had when he learned that Mona Lisa loved him.

*neatoman* · 04-10-2016, 02:50 PM

So yeah, Dregg being revealed as a robot was weirder than I thought it'd be, we saw him eat and drink before that happened. I don't think it's a decoy either, if that was the case then there would have been an additional scene showing the real Dregg in order to clarify that.

But it does have some interesting implications, if that wasn't a decoy then who built Dregg and why?

View Poll Results: Two more episodes to the end of the Space Arc
Don should have an owned count	2	4.88%
Dregg's a robot now?	13	31.71%
Mikey senses a Dark April on the horizon.	10	24.39%
Raph: We know Casey...Metal! Everything on this stupid planet is Metal! Shut up already!	16	39.02%
Voters: 41. You may not vote on this poll

04-10-2016, 09:53 AM	#21
OrangeNinja1987 Foot Soldier Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 223	It was an okay episode. I don't have much to say. The shipping stuff was mostly bearable but I got tired of it fast. Raph and Mona have known each other how long? And they're already in love? I can chock that up to dramatic teen relationships. A couple funny jokes, but not one that I remembered. Easily the best part was when Raph went berserk. From all the downplayed ninja action this season, it feels like I haven't seen something like that for a looooooong time. I still hate how April only shoots a gun. What was the point of that multi-season story of her becoming a kunoichi if she never uses her skills?! In one of the last episodes of her training, she was even sparring with Leo! 7/10 __________________ DON: We've got to find that bomb! And we've only got eight minutes to do it! RAPH: Excuse me; is that including the commercial break? - 1987 For TMNT art and more, check out OrangeNinja1987 on Deviantart! http://orangeninja1987.deviantart.com/ To help with a current TMNT project: http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=53441 Proud fan of the TMNT 2014 movie

04-10-2016, 12:49 PM	#34
pannoni1 Foot Elite Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: USA Posts: 3,447	This episode I'll have to admit was a bit underachieving in terms of what I hope it would be. If you like the shipping/emotional stuff, it was quite a surprised, but otherwise it turned out to be just a filler episode in terms of the overall story. As others have said, Casey continues to get the short end of the stick, Raph more prominent, and Armaggon was just so stupid you couldn't feel for him. Show grade: 6/10 __________________ http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/sho...d.php?t=37065- MY WANT LIST TMNT FAN CLUB LINK: http://sot.ag/gCjK/ 30 years of Turtle Power!

04-10-2016, 12:52 PM	#35
Utrommaniac Resident overthinker Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: what is going on.......... Posts: 5,318	Spoiler: It seems like Raph and Mona have been keeping in touch between episodes, so I can swallow their relationship a little better than if they had just met on a few occasions and never stayed in contact. And was that Dregg just a decoy robot? Certainly the less cool of the robot decapitations this series has offered, though __________________ DeviantART

04-10-2016, 01:01 PM	#36
Autbot_Benz Hellblazer Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ventura California Posts: 9,130	shippers ruin everything first Arrow and now Turtles. I jab at the people who whine about Raph on this show but I actually side with them a bit on this episode . That was pathetic he couldn't fight because of Mona. Raphael: Ugh! Where do they come up with this stuff? __________________ I respect what FW cartoon did for the turtles franchise but it is the most overrated and hard to watch of the 3 turtles cartoons.

04-10-2016, 10:03 AM	#25
drgon78 Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 2,399	Good episode, good fighting, strange world, I am really enjoying the space arc, I will be sad when it ends.

04-10-2016, 10:14 AM	#27
NinjaPug Foot Elite Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 4,390	I'd be pissed if I was a Raph fan watching this episode. He lost his will to fight because Mona betrayed them? Give me a break. Mona is a weird situation for me. I want more female characters on this show but if her character is going to continue to be portrayed in this manner (specifically the relationship with Raph) then I want them to get rid of her.

04-10-2016, 01:06 PM	#37
Vicky82 Emperor Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dunstable, UK Posts: 5,801	I've noticed that Mikey has been awesome this season. He seems more focus, he hasn't made any mistakes. He's been amazing these last few episode. Last week he saved April, killed some of those gremlins, he supported and cheered Donnie up. This week, he saved April again, killed some bugs, he was concerned for Donie and he was being protective over Raph when Leo was annoyed at him. I hope his amazing moments continues. __________________ My heart!!!! One of my favourite moments.

04-10-2016, 01:51 PM	#38
Hero British Bloke Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bristol, UK Posts: 2,298	Spoiler: The Dregg revelation is pretty cool though not as much of a surprise considering what his minions are called. Some of Dregg's toy design itself is also a giveaway. A hint of Transformers Beast Wars in there. I'm quite pleased about that __________________ Go Green Machine My Facebook -My Tumblr - My Art - Figured 0ut - My Awesome Instagram Last edited by Hero; 04-10-2016 at 02:13 PM.

04-10-2016, 02:06 PM	#39
ranger_scout Foot Elite Join Date: May 2014 Location: Texas Posts: 3,700	I thought that today's episode was one of the better ones from this season. It kind of had a *Return of Jedi* feel to it since the heroes had to avoid being digested by a pit monster very similar to the the Sarlacc. Another highlight for me was the reaction Raph had when he learned that Mona Lisa loved him.