Official Ep Discussion S4 Ep 14: Earth's Last Stand - Page 4

*Vicky82* · 04-24-2016, 12:14 PM

This is the way I see it

Lets say the Space Turtles, April, Casey and Fugitoid are Group A and the past Turtles April, Casey and Fugitoid are Group B.

Group A saw the earth destroyed and go back 6 months in time to stop the Triceratons destroy earth again.

Group A return to earth help Group B to stop earth getting destroyed. Group A Fugitoid sacrifice himself to destroy the Black Hole Generator.

Because they’ve stopped earth getting destroyed it caused a paradox or a time loop so when Group B Fugitoid comes to earth he will know whats happened and will have to take Group B on time travel adventure and do the same thing again to make sure earth doesn’t get destroyed again.

So Group B become the new Space Turtles, April and Casey.

Group A will become the new present Turtles, April and Casey and continue on as normal.

*drgon78* · 04-24-2016, 12:18 PM

That was interesting and little confusing with there now there being two of them. I am sure the time lords will have to fix this one.

*ToTheNines* · 04-24-2016, 12:18 PM

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Redworld96 · 04-24-2016, 12:18 PM

But Group B cant stay on the space forever, can they? What would happend if Group B come back to Earth?

*Vicky82* · 04-24-2016, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Redworld96

But Group B cant stay on the space forever, can they? What would happend if Group B come back to Earth?

They gone back 6 months and more or less going to be doing the same thing Group A did when they were in Space.

So when they get back to The Present and stop earth getting destroyed, Then the Group C will go back in time and do almost the same thing again.

JH24 · 04-24-2016, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky82

They gone back 6 months and more or less going to be doing the same thing Group A did when they were in Space.

So when they get back to The Present and stop earth getting destroyed, Then the Group C will go back in time and do almost the same thing again.

Wouldn't this mean it creates an infinite loop? With a "new" group of turtles travelling into the past with a "new" Fugitoid again? Or doesn't it work that way?

*ToTheNines* · 04-24-2016, 12:30 PM

... but the Earth wasn't destroyed, they have no reason to go back and get the BHG. Plus I thought the only reason groul A traveled time was because of their proximity to the black hole.

*Vicky82* · 04-24-2016, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by JH24

Wouldn't this mean it creates an infinite loop? With a "new" group of turtles travelling into the past with a "new" Fugitoid again? Or doesn't it work that way?

Well there no rules in Time Travel so it's probably does create an infinite loop.

*NinjaPug* · 04-24-2016, 12:32 PM

That makes no sense. The mission of Group A was completed. The Triceratons and the black hole generator were both destroyed before Group B left. They wouldn't be coming back to a time where they needed to help the previous group. Why would they go back in time to change that?

*TigerClaw* · 04-24-2016, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by NinjaPug

Why would this new space trip be 6 months? None of what happened in the first trip would take place on this one.

This was just an easy way to do away with a second set of characters. More than likely we never see them again.

I bet we will in a later episode during season 5, eventually those Turtles will become home sick and return back to Earth.

*Vicky82* · 04-24-2016, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines

... but the Earth wasn't destroyed, they have no reason to go back and get the BHG. Plus I thought the only reason groul A traveled time was because of their proximity to the black hole.

I know it wasn't destroyed but they are going back 6 months to where the Triceratons are looking for the Black Hole Generator and will use it on earth.

*Autbot_Benz* · 04-24-2016, 12:34 PM

Poor David Tennant he sure does die a lot in stuff

As A Doctor Who fan I was ready for it.

*Vicky82* · 04-24-2016, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by NinjaPug

That makes no sense. The mission of Group A was completed. The Triceratons and the black hole generator were both destroyed before Group B left. They wouldn't be coming back to a time where they needed to help the previous group. Why would they go back in time to change that?

They are not changing anything they basically going to be doing the same thing Group A did.

tmntsplinterfan1997 · 04-24-2016, 12:36 PM

I just love a happy ending.

Splinter and the Mutanimals reunite with the Turtles.

Fugitoid sacrificing his life for the turtles, Splinter, April, Casey and the Mutanimals, just like in the movie, "The Iron Giant." I hope Fugitoid returns soon.

*NinjaPug* · 04-24-2016, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky82

I know it wasn't destroyed but they are going back 6 months to where the Triceratons are looking for the Black Hole Generator and will use it on earth.

Why? The point in time that they left saw the Triceratons destroyed. There's no need to go back.

*Autbot_Benz* · 04-24-2016, 12:38 PM

The Space Arc is just

*LeotheLateBloomer* · 04-24-2016, 12:44 PM

Ugghhh! This episode is another example of why I hate time travel in any form of media!

*Powder* · 04-24-2016, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Crap episode. The third act was really good, mostly due to Splinter beating the crap outta Shredder and the past/future tag team vs. Mozar, but the ending was dumb. The six of them just run off with Fugitoid willy nilly for no reason? Aren't they gonna want to come back at some point? What's the point of this "wonderous journey" if there's no BHG pieces to locate?

Then Honeycutt's death was awesome and emotional, but they couldn't commit...

And yeah, the first two acts were a total waste of time. Complete with forced drama, out of character bufoonery and reused season 3 footage.

And now Bishop's appearance in Annihilation Earth retroactively makes no sense. Why would he go to Earth without contacting Honeycutt?

I don't feel quite as strongly but you hit all the right points. I liked aspects of it, but yeah...

I sure hope they have plans for that second set of characters, 'cause if not, that whole ending was pointless. Having a universe with past & future TMNT existing simultaneously is a super cool concept to me, I'll be really miffed if they open that door without walking through it.

*Vicky82* · 04-24-2016, 12:49 PM

Someone on Tumblr said it could be the Grandfather Paradox but I don't know what that means.

But anyway I found this maybe some people want to read it, hopefully it makes sense.

http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/time-travel/

matteso586 · 04-24-2016, 12:52 PM

1) Who here thought that the space gang will fade once the Heart of Darkness is destroyed? 2) Too bad Zeno didn't make an appearance. 3) April mentioned her father, so Kirby is not forgotten. 4) Would it be a bit better if past Fugitoid gets confused about the two sets of Turtles, and that Earth isn't destroyed? 5) Do you think that what's left of Fugitoid will be voiced by the 11th Doctor?

View Poll Results: We traveled for a while in space, but all I wanna say is...
Time travel is complicated.	22	30.56%
Fugitoid, you may be strange, but funny; RIP.	5	6.94%
Sayonara space, bring on New York!	21	29.17%
Reunite with family, telling stories beyond the known universe.	11	15.28%
Take my past self on an adventure to relive (just don't bring Casey, there can be only one)	1	1.39%
Time to question Leo's heroic methods.	12	16.67%
Might have been 6 months there, but should have been longer here.	0	0%
Voters: 72. You may not vote on this poll

04-24-2016, 12:14 PM	#61
Vicky82 Emperor Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dunstable, UK Posts: 5,801	This is the way I see it Lets say the Space Turtles, April, Casey and Fugitoid are Group A and the past Turtles April, Casey and Fugitoid are Group B. Group A saw the earth destroyed and go back 6 months in time to stop the Triceratons destroy earth again. Group A return to earth help Group B to stop earth getting destroyed. Group A Fugitoid sacrifice himself to destroy the Black Hole Generator. Because they’ve stopped earth getting destroyed it caused a paradox or a time loop so when Group B Fugitoid comes to earth he will know whats happened and will have to take Group B on time travel adventure and do the same thing again to make sure earth doesn’t get destroyed again. So Group B become the new Space Turtles, April and Casey. Group A will become the new present Turtles, April and Casey and continue on as normal. __________________ My heart!!!! One of my favourite moments.

04-24-2016, 12:34 PM	#72
Autbot_Benz Hellblazer Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ventura California Posts: 9,131	Poor David Tennant he sure does die a lot in stuff As A Doctor Who fan I was ready for it. __________________ I respect what FW cartoon did for the turtles franchise but it is the most overrated and hard to watch of the 3 turtles cartoons.

04-24-2016, 12:36 PM	#74
tmntsplinterfan1997 Foot Soldier Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Oakley, CA Posts: 206	I just love a happy ending. Splinter and the Mutanimals reunite with the Turtles. Fugitoid sacrificing his life for the turtles, Splinter, April, Casey and the Mutanimals, just like in the movie, "The Iron Giant." I hope Fugitoid returns soon. __________________ "Focus on the goal at hand." -Master Splinter / Hamato Yoshi

04-24-2016, 12:38 PM	#76
Autbot_Benz Hellblazer Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ventura California Posts: 9,131	The Space Arc is just __________________ I respect what FW cartoon did for the turtles franchise but it is the most overrated and hard to watch of the 3 turtles cartoons.

04-24-2016, 12:18 PM	#62
drgon78 Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 2,399	That was interesting and little confusing with there now there being two of them. I am sure the time lords will have to fix this one.

04-24-2016, 12:18 PM	#64
Redworld96 Stone Warrior Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 639	But Group B cant stay on the space forever, can they? What would happend if Group B come back to Earth?

04-24-2016, 12:30 PM	#67
ToTheNines Col. Stinkmeaner Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 19,033	... but the Earth wasn't destroyed, they have no reason to go back and get the BHG. Plus I thought the only reason groul A traveled time was because of their proximity to the black hole.

04-24-2016, 12:32 PM	#69
NinjaPug Foot Elite Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 4,390	That makes no sense. The mission of Group A was completed. The Triceratons and the black hole generator were both destroyed before Group B left. They wouldn't be coming back to a time where they needed to help the previous group. Why would they go back in time to change that?

04-24-2016, 12:44 PM	#77
LeotheLateBloomer Foot Elite Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 3,117	Ugghhh! This episode is another example of why I hate time travel in any form of media!

04-24-2016, 12:49 PM	#79
Vicky82 Emperor Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dunstable, UK Posts: 5,801	Someone on Tumblr said it could be the Grandfather Paradox but I don't know what that means. But anyway I found this maybe some people want to read it, hopefully it makes sense. http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/time-travel/ __________________ My heart!!!! One of my favourite moments.

04-24-2016, 12:52 PM	#80
matteso586 Stone Warrior Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 712	1) Who here thought that the space gang will fade once the Heart of Darkness is destroyed? 2) Too bad Zeno didn't make an appearance. 3) April mentioned her father, so Kirby is not forgotten. 4) Would it be a bit better if past Fugitoid gets confused about the two sets of Turtles, and that Earth isn't destroyed? 5) Do you think that what's left of Fugitoid will be voiced by the 11th Doctor?