With OotS a failure, what's next for TMNT films?

[Andrew NDB]

With TMNT: OotS a financial dud, it is highly unlikely there will be a second sequel to the 2014 "film." That said, it is also unlikely that Viacom/Paramount would just sit on the the franchise with films or sell them to another studio.

What do you think will happen with the next film?

[Technogeek29]

If they were smart they'd balance IDW with Nick, like the Barron film did with OT and Mirage. A man can dream, a man can dream.

EDIT: Wait hold it I should really specify which season of Nick I mean. Season 1 season 2 is where I started to lose interest and I skipped a good chunk of season 3 I still don't think I've watched all of northhampton.

[Commenter 42]

[Casey]

Fingers crossed for Mirage. If Batman can escape Adam West era, then TMNT can do this!

[neatoman]

Realistically? Any attempt to make another one will happen between 2021-2036, long enough for OotS to be forgotten but not so long the franchise itself will be forgotten, but most likely closer to 2021 than 2036.

Considering Viacom was (I hope, but I question it a bit) trying to aim towards children with the last two, another attempt at making a TMNT might be another animated feature. Let me tell you what OotS might have been a bit easier to sit through if it was cartoon rather than cartoonish. Although if they do that, they're probably abandoning the idea of an adult audience but who really cares?

They might do another live-action movie but that is probably going to happen later than if they'd make an animated one.

Trying to make the "Fred Wolf cartoon: The movie" turned out to be... Not be such a great move from either a criticalal or financial stand point and the producers might learn from that. However, TMNT has been for kids for such a long time now we won't get an accurate adaptation of the Mirage comics, even if they tried that we'd probably end up with something much closer to 4Kids than Mirage and we all know what the OP of this thread would think of that...

Bottom line, the possibilities I'm seeing are:

1. Something mostly original.
2. Something in between all the different versions like what IDW is doing,

I know that's short after all I wrote but the only other possibilities are another FW-centric movie (which they might not want to try after the OotS fiasco) or another kiddified Mirage adaptation like what 4Kids did (which I doubt will happen but for different reasons).

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Casey

Fingers crossed for Mirage. If Batman can escape Adam West era, then TMNT can do this!

The trouble is, it took a Christopher Nolan to do that for Batman and I'm not sure there's a Christopher Nolan out there for TMNT, or even if there were that Paramount/Viacom would trust them with the keys to TMNT.

[Casey]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

The trouble is, it took a Christopher Nolan to do that for Batman and I'm not sure there's a Christopher Nolan out there for TMNT, or even if there were that Paramount/Viacom would trust them with the keys to TMNT.

Oof. I think Burton's first crack at it in 89 is what did it. Even Returns is pretty decent and holds up well. Then, yes we had to deal with Schumacher... and Bane.

I HOPE there is a Nolan out there somewhere just waiting and able. I have faith.

[neatoman]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

The trouble is, it took a Christopher Nolan to do that for Batman and I'm not sure there's a Christopher Nolan out there for TMNT, or even if there were that Paramount/Viacom would trust them with the keys to TMNT.

Andrew, do you know what the difference between Batman and TMNT is? Batman may dress silly but he's still a human being, very few people are ever going to take mutant turtles in Zorro masks seriously enough to accept a Nolan style movie based around them.

That might work for a comic book where a niche is catered to but too many people are going reject the notion of a gritty movie about the TMNT for that to ever be considered.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by neatoman

Andrew, do you know what the difference between Batman and TMNT is? Batman may dress silly but he's still a human being, very few people are ever going to take mutant turtles in Zorro masks seriously enough to accept a Nolan style movie based around them.

That might work for a comic book where a niche is catered to but too many people are going reject the notion of a gritty movie about the TMNT for that to ever be considered.

I didn't say I think it would happen. But it could. And it doesn't need a gigantic budget to take a risk on.

[Powder]

I think they'll have some sketchy Asian company fund another sequel, like they just did.

Originally Posted by neatoman

That might work for a comic book where a niche is catered to but too many people are going reject the notion of a gritty movie about the TMNT for that to ever be considered.

Such BS, really. All the most popular fan-art pieces that casuals share on Facebook are dark/edgy. There's obviously some level of interest in a more serious take.

[CyberCubed]

The thing is TMNT reboots in the movies don't happen for years. When a TMNT movie line ends, they let it rest:

- Gap between TMNT III and TMNT 2007 was 1993-2007...14 years.

- Gap between TMNT 2007 and TMNT 2014....7 years.

Whenever a TMNT movie line ends and we don't get a sequel, they let it rest for a long time.

[Powder]

Well, if 14 was cut in half to 7, perhaps 7 will be cut in half to 3.5 years? It can't come quick enough.

[chrisdude]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

The thing is TMNT reboots in the movies don't happen for years. When a TMNT movie line ends, they let it rest:

- Gap between TMNT III and TMNT 2007 was 1993-2007...14 years.

- Gap between TMNT 2007 and TMNT 2014....7 years.

Whenever a TMNT movie line ends and we don't get a sequel, they let it rest for a long time.

I think that's kind of been the case with everything. It's not until now that comic book movies have had a fire beneath them, being pushed forward with crazy urgency. If Turtles gets shelved, there probably won't be a timeframe on it. They probably won't be concerned about how to bring it back. They'll just leave it alone until somebody cares again. It's not like Sony, where Spider-Man was their most valuable property, or like transformers, where Michael Bay stepping away would've been the apocalypse for Paramount.

[thundermaster612]

Originally Posted by Commenter 42

http://image.slidesharecdn.com/woccu...?cb=1418288085

should've put Deadpool's one, its better

[chrisdude]

Originally Posted by Panda_Kahn_fan

First thing is we need to ditch Bay and Platinum Dunes. Get in a team passionate about TMNT.

They need to adapt IDW- I don't mean 'take from', I mean adapt it in full. It's the version most liked by every faction of the fandom, and has the most mainstream appeal. The movie needs to be a middle ground, where all factions can agree it is at least good. Throw Fred wolf up on screen and you lose a chunk of the public and mirage fans, throw mirage up on the screen, and you lose both the Fred wolf fans and the kids whose toy, apparel, and video game money Viacom craves. There needs to be a middle ground.

IDW is that perfect middle ground, taking the very best from all versions, and doing it's best to please everyone. Just push the envelope on how edgy it can be, and you'll have enough of an audience for a hit film. I personally believe IDW is the best version of TMNT of all, taking the best from all the others. And I also think purists of any version of tmnt are ridiculous and backward thinking. Compromise, a good script, and people who care about the property, fans of Fred Wolf and 2k3 and the original live action films all mixed in together, is the best way to go with your staff. What is needed is a TMNT free of our factionalism.

Nope. Must be Mirage. Must be black-and-white. Chop off Shredder's head, or gtfo. Add sand to popcorn for maximum grittiness.

Kidding. Your reasoning is sound. Even thought it's pretty much how I feel about Nick.

[Candy Kappa]

If they'd omit the reincarnation bit, a more IDW based movie would be fancy I guess. Would prefer a Nick adaptation with more Mirage sprinkled in.

[TrickOrTreater]

Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

If they'd omit the reincarnation bit, a more IDW based movie would be fancy I guess. Would prefer a Nick adaptation with more Mirage sprinkled in.

Yep, I'd be just fine with either of these.

[Etsyturtle2]

More... S E Q U E L S!!!

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Unfortunately, I'm still not sold on the thought that TMNT 3 isn't a surefire thing. At this point, I believe it's still utterly inevitable.

[TurtleTitan97]

Originally Posted by Etsyturtle2

More... S E Q U E L S!!!

Sequels require money, something this film is making less than its predecessor so far.