Official Episode Discussion S4 Ep 19: Bat in the Belfry

[neatoman]

Originally Posted by Vicky82

I have it's on the first page

I don't suppose this is a little too much for this board?

Spoiler:

[Ninja Tiptup]

Originally Posted by neatoman

So I'm guessing the reason they chose to make Wingnut a comic book character is because, well, I guess they're saving the real Batman homage for later...

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-xur6yM0x0z...0/Nobody02.jpg

Good point. Get Conroy for Nobody.

[CyberCubed]

I doubt Nobody will appear in the Nick cartoon this late. I think they would have used him by now if they had any interest.

[GoldMutant]

Originally Posted by THGhost

Ask GoldMutant, he brought it up seriously on page 3.

Did someone page me and didn't send the memo?

Quick summary of what I said in my review because "filler" isn't my issue in the episode. With the exception of the crystal (though blatant foreshadowing) and the chemistry between Wingnut and Screwloose, I honestly didn't like this episode. It was fun for what it was, but my main issue is the episode went wayyyy too far in parodying Batman. Cute at first, but irritating as it drones on.

As for "filler," I'll admit I was a bit harsh. Honestly, there's no such thing as it, some of the best stories as some have pointed out are often the entertaining ones. For me, I just prefer storytelling over fun at points, but I'll gladly take the latter if it appeals to me. This episode just wasn't fully my cup of tea; I just find it one of the weakest episodes of the season personally.

[Toadtrooper]

Kind of wish they had combined Wingnut/Screwloose and Scumbug/Antrax into a 2-parter and made all four come out of the comic book.

Instead, this just feels like a better version of the Scumbug episode, what with the zipline parkour and all.

[WebLurker]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I doubt Nobody will appear in the Nick cartoon this late. I think they would have used him by now if they had any interest.

"Him"? Wasn't Nobody a woman (Angel something or other)?

[QUOTE=GoldMutant;1623011]Did someone page me and didn't send the memo?

Originally Posted by GoldMutant

Quick summary of what I said in my review because "filler" isn't my issue in the episode. With the exception of the crystal (though blatant foreshadowing) and the chemistry between Wingnut and Screwloose, I honestly didn't like this episode. It was fun for what it was, but my main issue is the episode went wayyyy too far in parodying Batman. Cute at first, but irritating as it drones on.

As for "filler," I'll admit I was a bit harsh. Honestly, there's no such thing as it, some of the best stories as some have pointed out are often the entertaining ones. For me, I just prefer storytelling over fun at points, but I'll gladly take the latter if it appeals to me. This episode just wasn't fully my cup of tea; I just find it one of the weakest episodes of the season personally.

Fair enough. I actually liked the Batman parody, and I'm not that big a Batman fan in the first place (the cartoons are good, and I really want to see more of the '60s show, but that's about it). I think it kind of captured why we love superhero characters, regardless of which ones they are. (I'm a Spider-Man fan first and foremost, but could understand why Mikey was so excited to Wingnut in person and so sad when they had to return to the comic pages.)

Also, what's so wrong about calling side episodes "filler"? Frankly, I want to have the occasional filler episode to balance out the longer arcs. I like having stories play out over multiple episodes, but sometimes, I just want to watch a good done-in-one. (Personally, I think this one doesn't qualify as "filler" because of the set-up with April going all Gollum over the Aeon crystal, but that's getting into semantics.)

[TigerClaw]

[QUOTE=WebLurker;1623048]"Him"? Wasn't Nobody a woman (Angel something or other)?

Originally Posted by GoldMutant

Did someone page me and didn't send the memo?



Fair enough. I actually liked the Batman parody, and I'm not that big a Batman fan in the first place (the cartoons are good, and I really want to see more of the '60s show, but that's about it). I think it kind of captured why we love superhero characters, regardless of which ones they are. (I'm a Spider-Man fan first and foremost, but could understand why Mikey was so excited to Wingnut in person and so sad when they had to return to the comic pages.)

Also, what's so wrong about calling side episodes "filler"? Frankly, I want to have the occasional filler episode to balance out the longer arcs. I like having stories play out over multiple episodes, but sometimes, I just want to watch a good done-in-one. (Personally, I think this one doesn't qualify as "filler" because of the set-up with April going all Gollum over the Aeon crystal, but that's getting into semantics.)

Angel is Nobody in the IDW comics.
http://turtlepedia.wikia.com/wiki/Angel_Bridge_(IDW)

[GoldMutant]

Originally Posted by WebLurker

"Him"? Wasn't Nobody a woman (Angel something or other)?

Nobody is mostly a male, IDW being the exception with Angel.

Also, what's so wrong about calling side episodes "filler"? Frankly, I want to have the occasional filler episode to balance out the longer arcs. I like having stories play out over multiple episodes, but sometimes, I just want to watch a good done-in-one. (Personally, I think this one doesn't qualify as "filler" because of the set-up with April going all Gollum over the Aeon crystal, but that's getting into semantics.)

Calling episodes filler is rather subjective, especially based on the last few episode discussions here. Really, there's no pure "filler" in this series as a particular monster or trait returns. Take Noxious Avenger for example; I'm aware my opinion on this episode varies a lot, but in general I find it a weak episode in season 3, among my bottom 10. Regardless, it felt like a side story and almost an afterthought until Muckman returned in the finale. Even then, it did entertain quite a bit.

You can dismiss them, but odds are these one shots are at times better than the story arcs, that is unless the story driven episodes pull all the stops. That's my two cents really; I really haven't seen an episode I thoroughly enjoyed since... Casey Jones vs the Underworld? That's the last episode I fully liked start to finish; future episodes I either don't like, I despise, or like but wanted more out of it. No harm, no foul.

[IndigoErth]

Fun episode, even if it didn't really get us anywhere other than the real focus being on April falling to the dark side, so to speak. Definitely very different in tone and pace. Shame those two are I guess one episode characters.


Really though... are we going to figure out what the living cloud from the crystal was, or not? And where did it go. I hope that is an issue that comes back up.

[Ashwolf]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

Fun episode, even if it didn't really get us anywhere other than the real focus being on April falling to the dark side, so to speak. Definitely very different in tone and pace. Shame those two are I guess one episode characters.


Really though... are we going to figure out what the living cloud from the crystal was, or not? And where did it go. I hope that is an issue that comes back up.

honestly, i think that crystal might be partly, if not completely, made up of soul energy like philosophers stones in fma

[MikeandRaph87]

The crystal could very well be the key to defeating Super Shredder.

[IndigoErth]

Originally Posted by Ashwolf

honestly, i think that crystal might be partly, if not completely, made up of soul energy like philosophers stones in fma

Hmmm, good theory.

Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87

The crystal could very well be the key to defeating Super Shredder.

I could see that. Though I could, prior to that, see Super Shredder gaining control of her and trying to use her as a weapon.

[victory_angel]

Originally Posted by GoldMutant

Nobody is mostly a male, IDW being the exception with Angel.

Let's not forget April also became Nobody in the mirage comics.

[WebLurker]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

Really though... are we going to figure out what the living cloud from the crystal was, or not? And where did it go. I hope that is an issue that comes back up.

I thought it became the character constructs created. If so, then the first one became the eyeball monster and was destroyed by April.

[JH24]

That was a fun episode. Clever dialogue, some nice action scenes and I really enjoyed Mikey and Casey as a team. Nice to have Casey in an episode where he's written in a good way, playing to his strengths as a character.

The development with April was very interesting, slowly building to a climax. Next time anyone is going to try taking that crystal from April, things really will go wrong.

[Andrew NDB]

Weird that Wingnut and Screwloose don't simply come from Dimension X. Above almost anyone else in the show, they were like pre-packagedly perfect for the world and tone of the Nick show. They deserve a lot better than a mere Batman parody.

[WebLurker]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Weird that Wingnut and Screwloose don't simply come from Dimension X. Above almost anyone else in the show, they were like pre-packagedly perfect for the world and tone of the Nick show. They deserve a lot better than a mere Batman parody.

What was wrong with the Batman parody? I really liked the two characters, personally.

[TigerClaw]

Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87

The crystal could very well be the key to defeating Super Shredder.

If that's the case, April would be the one that defeats the Super Shredder.

[Powder]

I sure the hell hope not, it's bad enough April beat him in Bayturtles. Hell, they might be setting it up in IDW, too. I hope there's not a conspiracy here...

[WebLurker]

Originally Posted by Powder

I sure the hell hope not, it's bad enough April beat him in Bayturtles. Hell, they might be setting it up in IDW, too. I hope there's not a conspiracy here...

If I recall correctly, in that movie, it was a group effort. April may have lured Shredder into a vulnerable place with the green mutagen canister, but Leo was the one who actually threw the blade that knocked Shredder off.