The ethics of Batman beating up criminals, is it justified?

[Jephael]

This cracked me up!!!

[Spike Spiegel]

Originally Posted by Commenter 42

That's not Superman.

Damn. Not at all.

Sure it is. He was a member of the show's primary cast.

Seriously though, it helps to understand the context of the DCAU and his character development related to that scene. Darkseid brainwashed him years ago and set him loose on Earth, so he is still working to earn people's trust back. Professor Emil Hamilton, who was his longtime friend, has just betrayed him by working with Cadmus and secretly cloning Supergirl to create a superhuman army for the U. S. government. Luthor has been pardoned and is running for president (and is favored to win) while also bankrolling Cadmus.

Superman is realizing that seemingly the whole world is against himself and the Justice League and has no idea how to handle it. All the plot stuff this involved was a slow burn that took years to develop, finally coming full circle here.

[TurtleTitan97]

Originally Posted by Commenter 42

That's not Superman.

Damn. Not at all.

Pretty sure a vast majority of fans would disagree with you.

It also helps to actually watch the show.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Originally Posted by Commenter 42

That's not Superman.

Damn. Not at all.

Context helps.
You got Netflix?
If you've got some spare time, watch the Justice League episode "A Better World", then JLU episodes "Fearful Symmetry", "The Doomsday Sanction", "Clash", "Question Authority", "Flashpoint", "Panic In the Sky", and "Divided We Fall" (and "Epilogue" as a treat). It's a really cool story arc that tackles the issue BvS was addressing in a much more intelligent way.

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by TheSkeletonMan939

Context helps.
You got Netflix?
If you've got some spare time, watch the Justice League episode "A Better World", then JLU episodes "Fearful Symmetry", "The Doomsday Sanction", "Clash", "Question Authority", "Flashpoint", "Panic In the Sky", and "Divided We Fall" (and "Epilogue" as a treat). It's a really cool story arc that tackles the issue BvS was addressing in a much more intelligent way.

Yeah, context is very important there. Flash even points out that he's acting like Batman.

[myconius]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

There is a rule in this world. You break the law, you go to jail. That's how it works. Especially if you get caught.

Batman takes the law into his own hands and terrorizes criminals and beats them into submission. In their world, they deserve it. These filthy criminal scum kill, rape, murder, steal, and sometimes contribute to mass genocide. In their world these criminals KNOW there's superheroes, and not just cops, so how can you be stupid enough to break the law when you know there are heroes prowling the streets?

I love it when Batman pounds their faces in and smashes their skulls into the pavement. He breaks their bones, gives them shattered jaws/arms/legs, and put them in their place. The filthy criminal scum deserve everything that comes to them, and those worthless bastards deserve worse than death. However the criminal system in their world is so poor that often than not they're let back on the streets.

While I agree with Batman's no-kill rule, he should still beat them to the point where they can no longer carry out their nefarious deeds. Shattered their legs preventing them from walking, or beat them to the brink of death. Batman deserves to keep the streets clean.

What do you think? Is Batman justified?

seeing that Batman and all of his actions are fictional... then yeah, fiction is totally justifiable for the sake of entertainment.

if we're talking 'Real Life' ...... then no.

let's keep this in perspective that it's all just all made up for fun.

[ProactiveMan]

It's justifiable because it's written to be so. In real life a billionaire who appointed himself as a violent arbiter of justice would be unpalatable. You wouldn't know why he's doing it, or anything about the people that he was viciously beating and you'd assume the worst. In fiction, we have insight into his motivations and the workings of the world around him, which has been tailor made to justify his actions.

Like how Joss Whedon characters can be so witty, because other characters set them up with perfect feeder lines. There would be a lot more eye rolling in real life.

[CyberCubed]

I still love to know how Batman's grapple hook manages to always magically hook some building each and everytime and allows him to swing effortlessly from rooftops. Imagine in real life someone doing that and slamming into the sides of buildings/windows or falling down.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Originally Posted by Commenter 42

That's not Superman.

Damn. Not at all.

#ChristopherReeveTheOneAndOnlySuperman

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

The turtles also do that

[Commenter 42]

Originally Posted by FredWolfLeonardo

#ChristopherReeveTheOneAndOnlySuperman

^^^^^bingo.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

I dunno, I'd add Dean Cain to that. He did a pretty good job within the framework of what Lois and Clark was. And he looked the part.

[ProactiveMan]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I still love to know how Batman's grapple hook manages to always magically hook some building each and everytime and allows him to swing effortlessly from rooftops. Imagine in real life someone doing that and slamming into the sides of buildings/windows or falling down.

The buildings in Gotham City are very close together and conveniently staggered in height.