Official Episode Discussion S4 Ep 20: Super Shredder - Page 6

*Vicky82* · 11-07-2016, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Penst0ck

Man, this brings me back to "The Gauntlet". Brutal blows and non stop plight.
Oh and is Rahzar dead now? The dude did get thrown under a train car.

I hope he isn't dead, I want Mikey to kill him.

tmntsplinterfan1997 · 11-07-2016, 05:45 PM

I can't believe the episode ended with Bebop and Rocksteady confronting April, Karai and the turtles.

*THGhost* · 11-07-2016, 05:46 PM

Fantastic episode!

Super Shredder looks awesome. Wish I hadn't had it spoiled for me by a gif I saw on here though, thanks whoever posted that without spoiler tags.

That sewer scene, man that was great.
Poor Shell Raiser.

Badass April!
Splinter won't be dead. Not sure how, but he'll be fine. I hope.

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Originally Posted by Vicky82

Which means i'll be avoiding here/Tumblr/Twitter for a few hours. This is one episode I don't want to see spoilers.

A gif of Super Shredder was already posted by someone here. Hope you missed it.

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Originally Posted by Vicky82

I hope he isn't dead, I want Mikey to kill him.

I'm sure he won't be. I liked his little "according to the fan sites" bit, that was kinda cute.

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Alright, now this is just blatant trolling. Calling this episode, "Beyond trash?"

This is pretty much proof you people have no idea what the hell you want.

Don't feed the trolls, Cubed.

*Fang Wolf* · 11-07-2016, 06:07 PM

It's that Shredder's beating heart? Why is Blue-Purple?
So how did the heart outside his chest?

I think Both Shredder and Splinter is alive down there...

*THGhost* · 11-07-2016, 06:20 PM

I wondered why his heart was exposed. I was expecting something to stab it and instantly kill him, but it appeared as though Shinigami was unable to penetrate it.

*GoldMutant* · 11-07-2016, 06:29 PM

I'd assume the heart is out because of Shredder going unstable; due to him not allowing the mutagen to rest and instead pump it full on like Venom (the DC drug) or steroids, his heart is more visible as if he may die soon. Additionally, drugs do increase the heart's size, increasing health risks that can stem from it.

I may not like Super Shredder's design, but the heart and possibly the face are my favorite parts of the design, dunno why though.

*Powder* · 11-07-2016, 06:45 PM

It's just another one of Ciro's trademark body horror design elements, nothing more. You can work some in-series logic on it, but I'm sure it was just something he thought would look dope while drawing up the concept art.

*IndigoErth* · 11-07-2016, 06:48 PM

Design-wise though, it was more a flat image on his chest rather than an exposed 3D-looking heart, so not so sure about that. Maybe it's just glowing and showing through him?

*THGhost* · 11-07-2016, 07:31 PM

Design choice or not, that thing is getting stabbed at some point. Or at least it should get stabbed. Is that sort of thing allowed on Nick?

*DestronMirage22* · 11-07-2016, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky82

I hope he isn't dead, I want Mikey to kill him.

Woah, I don't think that would ever happen in this series. Especially this version of Mikey.

*THGhost* · 11-07-2016, 07:56 PM

Perhaps "kill" is a strong word.

*Ninturtle* · 11-07-2016, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by THGhost

Don't feed the trolls, Cubed.

The irony is too much

*LeotheLateBloomer* · 11-08-2016, 04:56 AM

Bravo, you guys! This was a great episode. This was filled with drama and suspense and it was done pretty well. The few humor scenes they had were all pretty funny but I have to say I loved that Rahzar watching his own show and talking about the episode being one of the top episodes according to the fansites.

The turtles and April fighting the henchmen was pretty awesome, though April using her psychic powers to maneuver her weapon felt a bit cheap. In one shot, Rahzar kicked April off a train when fighting against her and the turtles and I'm was amazed how much she endured from that.

Now the Splinter vs Super Shredder fight was intense. SS using photos of his family to torture him and hanging Karai while still believing her to be her daughter shows that Shredder is mentally warped (You're not helping yourself convincing your "daughter" that you're the father. Not to mention that you already revealed that you are NOT the father in "The Wrath of Tiger Claw"). I would love to see an episode based on the Splinter and Rat King story of the "City at War" arc.

*neatoman* · 11-08-2016, 05:15 AM

So I decided to take a screencap myself of the arm wiggling out, it looks oddly specific for something that happens so fast, like an aye-aye hand.

*ToTheNines* · 11-08-2016, 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by LeotheLateBloomer

Bravo, you guys! This was a great episode. This was filled with drama and suspense and it was done pretty well. The few humor scenes they had were all pretty funny but I have to say I loved that Rahzar watching his own show and talking about the episode being one of the top episodes according to the fansites.

The turtles and April fighting the henchmen was pretty awesome, though April using her psychic powers to maneuver her weapon felt a bit cheap. In one shot, Rahzar kicked April off a train when fighting against her and the turtles and I'm was amazed how much she endured from that.

Now the Splinter vs Super Shredder fight was intense. SS using photos of his family to torture him and hanging Karai while still believing her to be her daughter shows that Shredder is mentally warped (You're not helping yourself convincing your "daughter" that you're the father. Not to mention that you already revealed that you are NOT the father in "The Wrath of Tiger Claw"). I would love to see an episode based on the Splinter and Rat King story of the "City at War" arc.

Lmao....

*MrTMNT2012* · 11-08-2016, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by THGhost

Don't feed the trolls, Cubed.

I have an entire history of praising the show during Seasons 1 & 2 on this forum.

I literally created my account BECAUSE of this incarnation.

But yeah, guess I'm jus a random troll lol

Groverman62 · 11-08-2016, 06:51 AM

But why do you hate this episode?

*Vegita-San* · 11-08-2016, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by MrTMNT2012

I have an entire history of praising the show during Seasons 1 & 2 on this forum.

I literally created my account BECAUSE of this incarnation.

But yeah, guess I'm jus a random troll lol

i don't follow these threads too closley...but don't try and work logic into internet thinking, man. it'll drive you to insanity.

As for this episode....i didn't hate it. but it was just ANOTHER excuse to do some bizzarre horror themed episode and weird monster design that this crew seems to have a thing for for some reason.

there was no reason to bring super shredder into this show. 0. none.
It just seems like this staff has no clue as to what to do with shredder and his minions in this series as they ALWAYS seem like 'oh yeah, we've got these characters here.. we should probably do something with them again'..

this entire show feels like that. 'i want a giant mech turtle bot in here for some reason, lets put it in a few shows'. 'i want to do a scary care bears episode...that seems kind of cool. here are these dream bears'.

It all just seems spur of the moment. and because of that, any drama it tries to set up, i.e. splinter supposedly dying again...just falls flat.

*Sabacooza* · 11-08-2016, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by MrTMNT2012

I have an entire history of praising the show during Seasons 1 & 2 on this forum.

I literally created my account BECAUSE of this incarnation.

But yeah, guess I'm jus a random troll lol

Don't pay any attention to them. You're allowed to have your own opinion. If it doesn't jive with theirs or hurts their feelings, so what.

*ToTheNines* · 11-08-2016, 08:10 AM

Opinions are cool.

But really, other than a couple Auman-isms, this was season 1 tier. Coulda told me it was a Sternin/Ventimilia joint.

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11-07-2016, 05:45 PM	#102
tmntsplinterfan1997 Foot Soldier Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Oakley, CA Posts: 206	I can't believe the episode ended with Bebop and Rocksteady confronting April, Karai and the turtles. __________________ "Focus on the goal at hand." -Master Splinter / Hamato Yoshi

11-07-2016, 06:07 PM	#104
Fang Wolf Proud Swedish Furry Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: In Europe: Sweden Posts: 3,521	It's that Shredder's beating heart? Why is Blue-Purple? So how did the heart outside his chest? I think Both Shredder and Splinter is alive down there... __________________ OBS: I have an 4 stage aggressive cancer.. My Furaffinity Fang Wolf's Illustrations Last edited by Fang Wolf; 11-08-2016 at 05:19 AM.

11-07-2016, 06:20 PM	#105
THGhost Puppet Master Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: UK Posts: 2,825	I wondered why his heart was exposed. I was expecting something to stab it and instantly kill him, but it appeared as though Shinigami was unable to penetrate it. __________________ - - - 1990 > OotS > TMNT 2014 > Turtles Forever > TMNT III > SotO > TMNT 2007 "Can't we all just get along?" - pennydreadful "...bitchy people are what make fan forums insufferable when they don't need to be." - B-Man "Act like freakin' adults for goodness sake." - Jester "Tough guys with tiny voices." - Commenter 42

11-07-2016, 06:29 PM	#106
GoldMutant Control Your Narrative Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: New England Posts: 1,763	I'd assume the heart is out because of Shredder going unstable; due to him not allowing the mutagen to rest and instead pump it full on like Venom (the DC drug) or steroids, his heart is more visible as if he may die soon. Additionally, drugs do increase the heart's size, increasing health risks that can stem from it. I may not like Super Shredder's design, but the heart and possibly the face are my favorite parts of the design, dunno why though. __________________

11-07-2016, 06:45 PM	#107
Powder 40 Years of TMNT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell-Ri-La Posts: 26,945	It's just another one of Ciro's trademark body horror design elements, nothing more. You can work some in-series logic on it, but I'm sure it was just something he thought would look dope while drawing up the concept art.

11-07-2016, 06:48 PM	#108
IndigoErth Team Blue Boy Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: U.S., East Coast Posts: 16,287	Design-wise though, it was more a flat image on his chest rather than an exposed 3D-looking heart, so not so sure about that. Maybe it's just glowing and showing through him?

11-07-2016, 07:31 PM	#109
THGhost Puppet Master Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: UK Posts: 2,825	Design choice or not, that thing is getting stabbed at some point. Or at least it should get stabbed. Is that sort of thing allowed on Nick? __________________ - - - 1990 > OotS > TMNT 2014 > Turtles Forever > TMNT III > SotO > TMNT 2007 "Can't we all just get along?" - pennydreadful "...bitchy people are what make fan forums insufferable when they don't need to be." - B-Man "Act like freakin' adults for goodness sake." - Jester "Tough guys with tiny voices." - Commenter 42

11-07-2016, 07:56 PM	#111
THGhost Puppet Master Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: UK Posts: 2,825	Perhaps "kill" is a strong word. __________________ - - - 1990 > OotS > TMNT 2014 > Turtles Forever > TMNT III > SotO > TMNT 2007 "Can't we all just get along?" - pennydreadful "...bitchy people are what make fan forums insufferable when they don't need to be." - B-Man "Act like freakin' adults for goodness sake." - Jester "Tough guys with tiny voices." - Commenter 42

11-08-2016, 04:56 AM	#113
LeotheLateBloomer Foot Elite Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 3,117	Bravo, you guys! This was a great episode. This was filled with drama and suspense and it was done pretty well. The few humor scenes they had were all pretty funny but I have to say I loved that Rahzar watching his own show and talking about the episode being one of the top episodes according to the fansites. The turtles and April fighting the henchmen was pretty awesome, though April using her psychic powers to maneuver her weapon felt a bit cheap. In one shot, Rahzar kicked April off a train when fighting against her and the turtles and I'm was amazed how much she endured from that. Now the Splinter vs Super Shredder fight was intense. SS using photos of his family to torture him and hanging Karai while still believing her to be her daughter shows that Shredder is mentally warped (You're not helping yourself convincing your "daughter" that you're the father. Not to mention that you already revealed that you are NOT the father in "The Wrath of Tiger Claw"). I would love to see an episode based on the Splinter and Rat King story of the "City at War" arc.

11-08-2016, 06:51 AM	#117
Groverman62 Foot Soldier Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Thats Classified Posts: 114	But why do you hate this episode?

11-08-2016, 08:10 AM	#120
ToTheNines Col. Stinkmeaner Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 19,078	Opinions are cool. But really, other than a couple Auman-isms, this was season 1 tier. Coulda told me it was a Sternin/Ventimilia joint.