TMNT Fred Wolf Series is 29 Years Old

[FredWolfLeonardo]

It would be pretty awesome if they released a blu-ray for the original cartoon. I wonder how many it would take to fit the entire show.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

What, are you sh*tting me?

Nothing says serious like Kraang butt cannons or a giant talking pizza the hutt.

[Candy Kappa]

Originally Posted by Vegita-San

am i the only one who didn't like this series when i first saw it in 1989?

No, I despised the FW show as a kid. It wasn't until my 20's when I started to watch the whole show, I grew a fondness of it.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

Nothing says serious like Kraang butt cannons or a giant talking pizza the hutt.

To be fair, there's alot of serious moments in the show and they've taken some big risks such as showing rat kings corpse, tang shens on-screen death and splinter being stabbed.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by FredWolfLeonardo

To be fair, there's alot of serious moments in the show and they've taken some big risks such as showing rat kings corpse, tang shens on-screen death and splinter being stabbed.

True that. But I think in general, it's much more lighthearted than 4Kids.

I mean, the artwork and voice actors alone make it lighter. Looking at you, Toddler Mikey.

[neatoman]

Not to mention that the dark moments can seem somewhat out of place between the mutant food and the "throw a bunch of assests in a blender without rhyme or reason" episodes.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Thats what the Nick show was always meant to be, the middle ground between FW and 4Kids, which is the show's biggest strength yet biggest weakness at the same time.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by FredWolfLeonardo

Thats what the Nick show was always meant to be, the middle ground between FW and 4Kids

I guess that's fair. Although the idea that 4Kids is this dark, gritty, drab Mirage-like thing is pretty far out there. 4Kids is just as wacky and campy as FW in many ways.

[ToTheNines]

4kids is just as much a toy commercial as the rest of them.

I think the dramatic stuff in the Nick show almost always knocks it out of the park and helps balance the gonzo stuff.

Felt kind of forced in 4kids, sometimes.

[CyberCubed]

The 4kids series did push the bar as far as they can go with certain episodes, given they showed impalement and on-screen deaths in a few episodes.

[DestronMirage22]

Originally Posted by FredWolfLeonardo

Thats what the Nick show was always meant to be, the middle ground between FW and 4Kids, which is the show's biggest strength yet biggest weakness at the same time.

Um, at the beginning of the series it certainly wasn't doing that. During the first season or so, the Nick show kinda didn't know what it wanted to be, and did it's own thing, introducing new characters/ideas. It wasn't 'till later it started adapting from previous versions.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Originally Posted by DestronMirage22

Um, at the beginning of the series it certainly wasn't doing that. During the first season or so, the Nick show kinda didn't know what it wanted to be, and did it's own thing, introducing new characters/ideas. It wasn't 'till later it started adapting from previous versions.

This definitely!

[TigerClaw]

Originally Posted by DestronMirage22

Um, at the beginning of the series it certainly wasn't doing that. During the first season or so, the Nick show kinda didn't know what it wanted to be, and did it's own thing, introducing new characters/ideas. It wasn't 'till later it started adapting from previous versions.

What the Nick series has done lately, Is introduce new old characters, and I mean old characters we were familiar with, but done in a drastically different way that seemed like completely new characters, Some of them were taken right out of Fred Wolf but in name only.

Take a fan favorite character and completely change them to be a new character entirely, there only association is the name.

[PApagreg]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Felt kind of forced in 4kids, sometimes.

4Kids did have a bad habit of being overly melodramtic, don't know if its the voice acting or the direction but some of the emotional scenes felt really narmy at times.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by TigerClaw

What the Nick series has done lately, Is introduce new old characters, and I mean old characters we were familiar with, but done in a drastically different way that seemed like completely new characters, Some of them were taken right out of Fred Wolf but in name only.

Take a fan favorite character and completely change them to be a new character entirely, there only association is the name.

Every series does that. 4kids and IDW do it too.

Every time a character is brought back they're reinvented and revamped.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

When did they actually start working on the OT before it aired?

[Vegita-San]

Originally Posted by neatoman

Not to mention that the dark moments can seem somewhat out of place between the mutant food and the "throw a bunch of assests in a blender without rhyme or reason" episodes.

yeah, but only because t hey try to go SERIOUS dark.

If they mellowed it back a bit, the two might mesh together better.

but they never follow up on the seriousness, and that's why it never works in this series. 4kids did it better. well, at least until fast forward

[Vegita-San]

Originally Posted by LeotheLateBloomer

When did they actually start working on the OT before it aired?

If I had to take a guess, probably sometime in early 86.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by LeotheLateBloomer

When did they actually start working on the OT before it aired?

Right around this time:

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Right around this time:

https://thetwistedpathgroup.files.wo...-the-devil.jpg

I remember seeing that when they announced the first PD movie.