Official Episode Discussion S5 Ep 05 & 6: When Worlds Collide

[neatoman]

I brought this up earlier but I still can't get over this. Dregg isn't a giant insect, Raph knows he isn't a giant insect, several other characters probably knows he isn't a giant insect, so why does the show still treat him like he is a giant insect? We saw his robotic head, we know he's a machine. Did they think we would forget?

This may very well be his final episode, the remaining 14 don't seem like they could include him.

[LeoRaDoMic]

Originally Posted by Sabacooza

Seriously, I don't know why they need to inject all this nonsense into this show. It's like a young girl's fan fiction.

Yes, exactly. I remember "The Gauntlet" which was very good in my opinion. Why couldn't they make more episodes in that style.

Also April and her psychic powers. Rediculous! A bit more realism was more then welcome.

[TigerClaw]

Originally Posted by Original TMNT Cartoon Fan

So, you believe that will now affect the official series writers?

I believe the creators and writers of this show, are well aware of all the fanart and fanfiction for TMNT out there, So they did some stuff that would get parts of the fandom smiling.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Originally Posted by LeoRaDoMic

Yes, exactly. I remember "The Gauntlet" which was very good in my opinion. Why couldn't they make more episodes in that style.

Also April and her psychic powers. Rediculous! A bit more realism was more then welcome.

I hope they wear off before the series is over.

[CyberCubed]

Dregg's invasion of Earth was about exactly what I expected, and a nice way to wrap up his character. I also find it bizarre people are acting like Newtralizer ever had a great character to begin with:

1. Newtralizer didn't even speak in his first episode in Season 1.

2. In his Season 2 episode, Newtralizer was already with his "Rocka Rocka" personality and just went around saying he hated the Kraang and fought with Slash.

We were never dealing with some A-list villain here in the first place.

Originally Posted by LeoRaDoMic

Yes, exactly. I remember "The Gauntlet" which was very good in my opinion. Why couldn't they make more episodes in that style.

There's been fighting like that all throughout the show, you seem like you're watching a completely different series than everyone else.

Also April and her psychic powers. Rediculous! A bit more realism was more then welcome.

This is the direction they decided to go with her, she's basically like Jean Grey from the X-men, a telepath.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Originally Posted by LeoRaDoMic

Yes, exactly. I remember "The Gauntlet" which was very good in my opinion. Why couldn't they make more episodes in that style.

Gauntlet was great, but you can't have Shredder beating up the turtles all the time. They learnt to fight him better and better for every fight.

[xenopokemon]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Dregg's invasion of Earth was about exactly what I expected, and a nice way to wrap up his character. I also find it bizarre people are acting like Newtralizer ever had a great character to begin with:

1. Newtralizer didn't even speak in his first episode in Season 1.

2. In his Season 2 episode, Newtralizer was already with his "Rocka Rocka" personality and just went around saying he hated the Kraang and fought with Slash.

We were never dealing with some A-list villain here in the first place.

They had the potential to turn him into an A-List villain without making him slapstick and just dumb.

[JH24]

Just watched the episode. Despite some things I found weird I honestly can say I did enjoy it.

Things I liked:

- Bishop was amazing. Really liked his role in this episode.
- I warmed up to Mona Lisa's character. It was nice seeing them together in the end.
- Dregg as a genuine threat. His army is far more powerful than I expected. The design of his flagship was simply amazing.
- Action scenes were great. A lot of effort went into the animation, expressions and background.

Things that felt weird and/or underwhelming:

- Mikey 'dying.' If you're going to do a death scene, (although we all know they won't let him die) make it at least a bit more dramatic and not something that happens in a few seconds.

- Mikey's powers. ...What was that? Like Cybercubed said, it's something you have to roll with but it does feel like lazy writing.

- Newtralizer. I liked him during his appearances in season 1 and 2. Here...not so much. No personality at all. And that "Rokka, rokka" line gets old fast.

- Where was Casey? Although I can understand his absence with him probably being out of town with his family. He's going to kick himself when he finds out what he has missed.

- Raph punching Bishop. Such a good idea doing that to your ally. Sure, it was meant as a joke but he was pretty much a jerk to him.


EDIT: I almost forgot to mention. At the end of the episode, those expressions of Raph, Mona Lisa and everyone else in the background were adorable. Loved that moment.

I enjoyed the episodes in general, especially because it felt like a rollercoaster ride. Unfortunately there wasn't much depth to it.

[CyberCubed]

Raph punching Bishop's head off in the last scene made me laugh because I wasn't expecting it. That was slapstick humor done right.

[JH24]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Raph punching Bishop's head off in the last scene made me laugh because I wasn't expecting it. That was slapstick humor done right.

I have to agree with that. It was funny, did not see that one coming.

[oldmanwinters]

I was surprised Casey Jones wasn't in this episode, but even more surprised his absence during a city-wide apocalypse wasn't even acknowledged. Did he go on a family vacation that week or something?

[JH24]

Originally Posted by oldmanwinters

I was surprised Casey Jones wasn't in this episode, but even more surprised his absence during a city-wide apocalypse wasn't even acknowledged. Did he go on a family vacation that week or something?

You're right. A family vacation or wedding (or something out of town) is most likely the reason. The turtles didn't even try to call him so they must have known he was away for awhile.

Knowing Casey, he'll be so disappointed when he finds out what he has missed.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Originally Posted by JH24

I enjoyed the episodes in general, especially because it felt like a rollercoaster ride. Unfortunately there wasn't much depth to it.

Stories with extraterrestrial invasions arent written for much depth, it's action-adventure with more large-scale attacks from the antagonists, and people running in panic on the streets.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by oldmanwinters

I was surprised Casey Jones wasn't in this episode, but even more surprised his absence during a city-wide apocalypse wasn't even acknowledged. Did he go on a family vacation that week or something?

Casey Jones was also absent in a lot of Seasons 2-4 episodes. Overall though it's obviously a voice actor thing, they said they can't have too many different VA's in the same episode for whatever reason.

These eps had the 4 Turtles, April, Karai, Mona Lisa, Sly Commander, Newtralizer, and Dregg. That's 10 different characters and voice actors, I guess that's the limit for an episode. I doubt Casey Jones would have added anything interesting to the ep anyway.

[JH24]

Originally Posted by Original TMNT Cartoon Fan

Stories with extraterrestrial invasions arent written for much depth, it's action-adventure with more large-scale attacks from the antagonists, and people running in panic on the streets.

I know what you mean, and I liked how they did the invasion part. But a character like Newtralizer was needlessly bland and predictable.

Mikey's new powers were just a quick way to even the odds and an easy way out.

[Vicky82]

Originally Posted by oldmanwinters

I was surprised Casey Jones wasn't in this episode, but even more surprised his absence during a city-wide apocalypse wasn't even acknowledged. Did he go on a family vacation that week or something?

He was probably asleep and he turned his phone off

(you have to scroll down)

https://angryninja101.tumblr.com/pos...-review-part-2

He was absent in the episode The Super Shredder and in the Darkest Plight he arrive asking why he had a lot of text messages, I assumed he was have hockey practice

[LeoRaDoMic]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Dregg's invasion of Earth was about exactly what I expected, and a nice way to wrap up his character. I also find it bizarre people are acting like Newtralizer ever had a great character to begin with:

1. Newtralizer didn't even speak in his first episode in Season 1.

2. In his Season 2 episode, Newtralizer was already with his "Rocka Rocka" personality and just went around saying he hated the Kraang and fought with Slash.

We were never dealing with some A-list villain here in the first place.




There's been fighting like that all throughout the show, you seem like you're watching a completely different series than everyone else.



This is the direction they decided to go with her, she's basically like Jean Grey from the X-men, a telepath.

I've watched every episode thus far. Never liked all the alien invasions, turtle Mech and stuff. Things go too far in my opinion. Really hoped they kept it simple somewhat more realistic and darker. But of course it's always for kids...

I agree that some fight scenes were awesome and the animation was really good.


This is the direction they decided to go with her, she's basically like Jean Grey from the X-men, a telepath.[/QUOTE]

Yes, really don't like it

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by LeoRaDoMic

I've watched every episode thus far. Never liked all the alien invasions, turtle Mech and stuff. Things go too far in my opinion. Really hoped they kept it simple somewhat more realistic and darker. But of course it's always for kids...

There are alien invasions in every TMNT incarnation, all the comics and cartoons. If you don't want to see the Turtles fight aliens or creatures, then more than half the franchise is not for you.

[ssjup81]

Originally Posted by Vicky82

He was probably asleep and he turned his phone off

(you have to scroll down)

https://angryninja101.tumblr.com/pos...-review-part-2

He was absent in the episode The Super Shredder and in the Darkest Plight he arrive asking why he had a lot of text messages, I assumed he was have hockey practice

At least this shows that Casey has a life outside of the turtles unlike poor April.

That aside, I was surprised Casey wasn't in this episode.

[GoldMutant]

Originally Posted by ssjup81

At least this shows that Casey has a life outside of the turtles unlike poor April.

That aside, I was surprised Casey wasn't in this episode.

Some of you guys may wonder, but I think as with Roger Craig Smith, it's due to Josh Peck. He recently got married.

I'm not sure if the recordings were done prior to the wedding, but it may be a reason for his absence.