The future of Rise

[newfan]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

What movie? I thought the movie was supposed to introduce the shredder but the series already jumped the gun on that.

I was referring to the Netflix Rise movie and the announced CGI theatrical movie. I thought Rise has been confirmed as still happening.

[Vicky82]

Originally Posted by newfan

I was referring to the Netflix Rise movie and the announced CGI theatrical movie. I thought Rise has been confirmed as still happening.

Yeah both movies still happening, Rise Netflix movie out next year.

[IndigoErth]

Originally Posted by newfan

I thought Rise has been confirmed as still happening.

Yeah, after Andy Suriano's "eulogy" (posted in 2012 section) on Instagram, he made an additional comment confirming the Netflix thing is still happening.

[shredder orokusaki]

Originally Posted by newfan

Only things coming are the Rise movie and the CGI movie, but still gonna have to wait for details.

If the theatrical movie manages to catch a decent size audience maybe there will be a sequel?, otherwise there might not even be anything else for some time, for all we know.

The movies has nothing to do with the next series that will start sooner later. The movie on cinema dont come any time soon as it dont have a release date.

[Diorm]

Why do I even... ugh

Boy, we just said that there is NO new series that is comming right now. The only two media that we know about are; the CGI movie and the Netflix movie. There is no date whatsoever for any of those.

[D Piddy 1982]

Just spent half an hour reading through the "Rise is cancelled" thread, preparing to write something then realise the thread is locked! Damn!

So just jumped in here quickly. As a fan of the series I'm immensely disappointed this series was cancelled. i can understand why, it didn't hit the right notes with the fandom, but to pull it midway through season 2, so then the finale had to be hastily put together, was pretty sh*** of Nick. At least let us have season 2 now it started.

Silver lining for Rise fans is there will be the movie.

Feel like the show was really beginning to develop and bring in more fans, but hey-ho.

Found this the other day, think it sums up the series well:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llOW2PI02co

[dragonside]

this is disappointing because season 2 finally started showing so much promise in what the show could be.. and what it was building up to be.

If Nickelodeon was expecting an instant success, i guess that's not what happened but.. some things TAKE TIME to get good.

My opinion of Splinter went 180 degrees once he started getting a lot more character development. He went from the worst version of splinter ... to the best version, with the most amazing backstory. Suffering loss after loss... in many ways. Truly the most tragic Splinter.

Rise's final stand will be the movie, so i hope they hit that ball out of the park so hard, that Nickelodeon will need to reconsider reviving it.

Now we've all seen that Nickelodeon likes to cancel shows that they don't like the numbers on. I.e. Hey Arnold (the original creator fought hard to get a proper conclusion). While all good shows come to an end, I am sad to see Rise Fall.

#SAVEROTTMNT

[srmff]

I originally saw the first 5 episodes before giving up on it. I might continue where I left off now and finish it off to see what they did.

[Chris]

I never got into Rise and stopped watching after the first few episodes. If I wanted to watch just the main story arc of the show now it's done, could anyone tell me which episodes I'd need to watch? Thanks

[dragonside]

Here's.. my recommendation, focused on splinter and some optional episodes so that you know at at minimum whats going on in the finale with the main characters. Any of the episodes related to the retrieval of the dark armor or side villains... is... kind of fillerish and you might as well watch the entire series all the way through for the other villains since you'll be like who is this?.


Season 1
001 "Mystic Mayhem" - obligatory first episode
02a "Origami Tsunami" - optional - intros the foot
007 "Bug Busters" - optional - for intro of Big Mama
12b "Hot Soup: The Game - optional - for intro of footclan new recruit
016 "Shadow of Evil" - must see - where Splinter's origin starts to get introduced
19b "How to Make Enemies and Bend People to Your Will" - must see - baron
22a "Turtle-dega Nights: The Ballad of Rat Man" - optional - splinter focused
22b "The Ancient Art of Ninja Hide and Seek" - must see - starts getting good
025 "Insane in the Mama Train" - must see
026 "End Game" - must see

Season 2
027 001 "Many Unhappy Returns - must see
28b 02b "Goyles, Goyles, Goyles" - must see
30b 04b "Repairin' the Baron" - must see - baron character development
33a 07a "Always Be Brownies" - optional - development of foot clan recruit
34a 08a "Donnie vs. Witch Town" - optional - April development - short scene
36a 10a "Fists of Furry" - optional - April development as student of Splinter
037 011 "Battle Nexus: New York" - must see
38a 12a "Finale Part 1: E-Turtle Sunshine of the Spotless Mind" - must see
38b 12b "Finale Part 2: Shreddy or Not" - must see
39a 13a "Finale Part 3: Anatawa Hitorijanai" - must see
39b 13b "Finale Part 4: Rise" - must see

[neatoman]

Originally Posted by Chris

I never got into Rise and stopped watching after the first few episodes. If I wanted to watch just the main story arc of the show now it's done, could anyone tell me which episodes I'd need to watch? Thanks

Some these are only important because they introduce characters that show up in plot relevant episodes. Skip them if you don't care.

1. "Mystic Mayhem"
2. "Origami Tsunami"
3. "Donnie's Gifts" (Just to know who Meat Sweats is)
4. "Newsworthy" (Just to know who Hypno is)
5. "Repo Mantis" (Just to know about the vehicle and some chatacters)
6. "Shell in a Cell" (Just to know who Ghostbear is)
7. "Bug Busters"
8. "The Longest Fight"
9. "Smart Lair" (Just to know who Shelldon is)
10. "Hot Soup: The Game"
11. "The Evil League of Mutants"
12. "Shadow of Evil"
13. "Warren & Hypno, Sitting in a Tree"
14. "Operation: Normal"
15. "How to Make Enemies and Bend People to Your Will"
16. "Mystic Library"
17. "Turtle-dega Nights: The Ballad of Rat Man"
18. "One Man's Junk"
19. "Snow Day" (If you want to know why Ghostbear changed)
20. "Insane in the Mama Train"
21. "End Game"
22. "Many Unhappy Returns"
23. "Goyles, Goyles, Goyles"
24. "Repairin' the Baron"
25. "Battle Nexus: New York"
26. "Finale Part 1: E-Turtle Sunshine of the Spotless Mind"
27. "Finale Part 2: Shreddy or Not"
28. "Finale Part 3: Anatawa Hitorijanai"
29. "Finale Part 4: Rise"

[IndigoErth]

Will throw mine in too. My ultimate list is more conservative, cut down to what's needed for the arc and skipping the rest of the noise. Barring the fact that some of the others end with a piece of Shredder armor obtained or some such minor detail, the one-offs they are tacked onto are pretty inconsequential to skip.

Season 1

Ep
1 - Mystic Mayhem
2 - Origami Tsunami (could skip, but introduces Foot and paper ninjas)
7 - Bug Busters
13 - The Evil League of Mutants
16 - Shadow of Evil
25 - Insane in the Mama Train
26 - End Game

Season 2

27 - Many Unhappy Return
30 - Repairin' the Baron (could skip, but would leave a plot hole in character relationship)
37 - Battle Nexus: New York
38a/b - Finale part 1 & 2
39a/b - Finale part 3 & 4


Bonus ep... If you liked the 2012 series at all, also check out Raph's Ride Along.

[Chris]

Thanks all, will give it a second chance.

[srmff]

I do actually think that I'll enjoy it for what it is and watch it all the way through. I just couldn't be bothered at the time to keep up to date with its schedule on TV.

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by dragonside

I.e. Hey Arnold (the original creator fought hard to get a proper conclusion)

The creator Craig Bartlett actually wanted to continue the story, not conclude it. It was hoped Jungle Movie would lead into a sixth season, but the ratings for the film weren't that hot. It still works as a conclusion, but there were things in it that were designed to be sequel hooks. Craig wound up illustrating and writing a follow-up over on Instagram during lockdown

[IndigoErth]

Shame it didn't happen. With all these shows people want to reboot, sometimes in the stupidest ways they can think of, god forbid a popular show come back and continue. Worked for Futurama, and I could see it working for Hey Arnold; may be a similar level of interest in it.

Rise... to get back to TMNT... eh, good luck. Can't blame people who liked it for wanting it back, but what is a hashtag or petition going to do? How would they intend on actually making it worth Nick's time and cost? 2012 was a hit and likewise its merchandise, and it still had new toys on the shelf for the final season. (Even though it had been moved to Nicktoons for quite a while!) This show, not so much. And as much as some liked to remind those of us who weren't into it that it's "not for us," that it's for kids... well clearly that kid target audience didn't buy into it either.

On the up side, TMNT is an evergreen, bound to keep coming back, and longtime fans are likely to find another future incarnation they also enjoy.



Side note... Was scrolling through upcoming 2012 eps in the tv guide and here's a fun little exercise - read the descriptions and picture what a Rise episode with that description would look like and how different it is.

[Leo656]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

And as much as some liked to remind those of us who weren't into it that it's "not for us," that it's for kids... well clearly that kid target audience didn't buy into it either.

On the up side, TMNT is an evergreen, bound to keep coming back, and longtime fans are likely to find another future incarnation they also enjoy.

I very much doubt it. It'll stick around for "a while", but they've done a terrible job of enticing the Next generation of fans to get into the brand. And as I've often noticed, younger kids nowadays don't do nostalgia or form lasting bonds with the things they like.

TMNT will be around for at least the next 30 years or so. When the current group of 30/40-somethings start dropping dead, though, that's it. "TMNT" as a brand dies with us. History over the last 20 years has shown that it just doesn't play well outside of kids who grew up in the 80s.

So yeah, it'll hang on for a while yet but I definitely don't think it's "evergreen". I might've thought that once upon a time, but factual evidence disproves that theory. "Kids" and younger people haven't consistently cared about TMNT in over 25 years. By this point you have to assume it just doesn't play to them.

[Zog The Magnificent]

Originally Posted by Leo656

I very much doubt it. It'll stick around for "a while", but they've done a terrible job of enticing the Next generation of fans to get into the brand. And as I've often noticed, younger kids nowadays don't do nostalgia or form lasting bonds with the things they like.

TMNT will be around for at least the next 30 years or so. When the current group of 30/40-somethings start dropping dead, though, that's it. "TMNT" as a brand dies with us. History over the last 20 years has shown that it just doesn't play well outside of kids who grew up in the 80s.

So yeah, it'll hang on for a while yet but I definitely don't think it's "evergreen". I might've thought that once upon a time, but factual evidence disproves that theory. "Kids" and younger people haven't consistently cared about TMNT in over 25 years. By this point you have to assume it just doesn't play to them.

I dunno about that. I'd probably be considered a "new" fan. I'm only 21, and I got into the franchise primarily from the 2012 show. Sure, I saw some of the 2003 show back when it was on, but it's not like I remembered anything about it. Now I've seen every show, movie, and own and have read almost every comic, and I doubt that I'm the only one to do so. These days it's one of my all time favorite franchises. There's always hope.

[Leo656]

Originally Posted by Zog The Magnificent

I dunno about that. I'd probably be considered a "new" fan. I'm only 21, and I got into the franchise primarily from the 2012 show. Sure, I saw some of the 2003 show back when it was on, but it's not like I remembered anything about it. Now I've seen every show, movie, and own and have read almost every comic, and I doubt that I'm the only one to do so. These days it's one of my all time favorite franchises. There's always hope.

Yeah, there's like ten of you guys.

I'm aware "new fans" exist but there's not enough of them to sustain the brand's popularity for another 80 years.

In 50 years or so, at best it'll be a thing like Dick Tracy. As in it'll be "Around" but nothing anyone pays any attention to. At worst it'll be one of those "Can you believe people actually liked ______?" bits on one of those "wacky" nostalgia shows.

[Zog The Magnificent]

We just gotta believe. A bunch of ninja turtles is only slighly more ridiculous then a man dressed like a bat fighting clowns and ninjas. Or maybe that's just wishful thinking on my part.