Freedom Convoy 2022

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

It isn't their jobs to change it for those truckers. Especially the U.S. Americans whose jobs are being impacted and losing income over it when they're just minding their own lives over here.

There are enough truckers, I'm pretty sure they can blow up the phones themselves. Or go make a big show where it will inconvenience those lawmakers and make it hard for THEM to get to and do thier own jobs.

It's literally every Canadian's job to get Trudeau out. Anyone not doing so is against their own country.

[IndigoErth]

Cool, so you're ignoring that some U.S. jobs are starting to be impacted. Isn't that against your own country? It's not U.S. citizens job to handle the Canadian's issues.


https://www.reuters.com/world/us/gm-...ts-2022-02-10/

A Toyota spokesman told Reuters the automaker was suspending production through Saturday at plants on both sides of the border, in Ontario and Kentucky.

Ford said... ...hoped for a quick resolution "because it could have widespread impact on all automakers in the U.S. and Canada."

Stellantis said some U.S. and Canadian plants cut short shifts on Thursday after many shortened shifts Wednesday night "due to parts shortages caused by the closure of the Detroit/Windsor bridge."

GM said it was forced to halt production Thursday at a Michigan plant where it builds sport utility vehicles after the protests.

The largest U.S. automaker said it had canceled a shift on Wednesday and two shifts Thursday at its Lansing Delta Township plant.

Can't wait until some prices get even worse because they choose to block roads instead of government buildings. Those politicians who have all the say won't give a damn if it hurts regular people who don't. They mgiht care when it comes to elections down the road, but people's current paychecks? Nope.


I remember back when auto manufacturing and the workers were seen as one of the utmost American things needing to be protected and saved. Must be nice for those who work from home to just shrug nowadays.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

Cool, so you're ignoring that some U.S. jobs are starting to be impacted. Isn't that against your own country? It's not U.S. citizens job to handle the Canadian's issues.


https://www.reuters.com/world/us/gm-...ts-2022-02-10/




Can't wait until some prices get even worse because they choose to block roads instead of government buildings. Those politicians who have all the say won't give a damn if it hurts regular people who don't. They mgiht care when it comes to elections down the road, but people's current paychecks? Nope.

America is considering starting their own convoys too. It's just a matter of, if they want the truckers to go home and not impact anybody, then just drop the mandates. Like I said, they can bring the country to an absolute standstill if they want to.

It's up to Trudeau to make like Wanda and say "No More Mandates".

Besides most of these people complaining had no issue pointing and laughing at those who lost their jobs and livelihoods over the mandates. Forgive me if I don't care that it's finally becoming 'their problem'.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

My prediction is that ultimately, the military will get involved and all protestors will get silenced. The protestors are not well armed or combat trained, and will learn the reality that in the end, force always wins out.

The only reason as to why the protests have reached to this point in places like Canada is because the government has allowed them to, since the governments of "the free world" have to pretend to be for freedom of assembly unlike places like China where protests like these don't happen. However, if the protests become too much of a nuisance, action will be taken.

[Coola Yagami]

They can't and they won't. The reason they keep pushing, is because until the truckers become violent, their hands are tied. The truckers understand this and will remain peaceful no matter what. The know the world is watching and if they fall so will everyone else, so they won't stop.

Unless the military knows how to do the truckers job and deliver groceries and packages, they can't do ****.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

They know the world is watching and if they fall so will everyone else, so they won't stop.

So? Almost the entire world is enforcing vaccine mandates so Canada won't have to answer to them if they take military action against the protests.

[Sumac]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

I don't care if they want to protest and whatnot, but I wish they'd have decided to congest and block roads around government buildings (or employers?) and make it hard on the people actually making those decisions/demands, instead of negatively impacting people and their own jobs who have no involvement and no control or power over it.

Auto makers are now having to cancel shifts and reduce production due to lack of parts, etc. I see support for it being very short lived if this gets to hitting too many innocent people in the wallet and not the politicians and/or employers who it should be impacting. Could open up an awfully big chasm with fellow blue collar workers if that keeps up long.

"But protest SHOULD BE disruptive!!!"

Originally Posted by FredWolfLeonardo

My prediction is that ultimately, the military will get involved and all protestors will get silenced. The protestors are not well armed or combat trained, and will learn the reality that in the end, force always wins out.

They won't - armed soldiers attacking (literally) peaceful protest, won't go unnoticed. If Trudeau wants to push even more people against himself - it is a way to do it.
I don't think it might end up in a civil war or some kind of conflict, but even more and more people will appear on the scene, who despise this guy.

[IndigoErth]

Cool. Now disrupt the people who can actually do something about it, not just bystanders it hurts who can't change the situation and isn't their job to "fix" it for those who are upset.

[Leo656]

Y e a h, a big selling point of America (and even America Jr.) Is that we don't like to bend over for jack-booted thugs. When the government or the military tries to overreach, we push back hard.

Point of fact, the Second Amendment wasn't created so that people could defend themselves against the criminals on the streets. It was LITERALLY created so people could protect themselves from the criminals in the GOVERNMENT, should ever the need arise. Lest we forget, that was the entire point of the Revolutionary War in the first place.

So yeah, if an armed citizens' uprising on live TV sounds like fun, by all means send in the tanks. But it won't end well for anyone. This isn't f*cking China. And once regular people, even liberals, start to see the government slaughtering their own citizens on live TV - Over something as stupid as a fake vaccine and masks that don't even work - then society as we know it collapses.

This is not a nation of sheep. There are some, like anywhere else. But predominantly, we're rebels. Our nation was birthed from war against a corrupt and unjust regime. If we revolted and started a whole new country over taxes we damn sure won't stand for the government going full-blown Tianmen Square on its own people. That's nuts.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Armed citizen uprising is no match for the military, the difference in technology and fighting skill is far too great. The protestors aren't some fanatical guerilla force either, they will give up and get jabbed most likely when things get too tough for them to handle.

[Leo656]

You sure have a lot of strange ideas about how things work.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by FredWolfLeonardo

So? Almost the entire world is enforcing vaccine mandates so Canada won't have to answer to them if they take military action against the protests.

No they're not. Not anymore they're not. More and more of them are dropping the mandates thanks to Canada, even though they'll never admit it.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by Leo656

You sure have a lot of strange ideas about how things work.

Some people just want to the watch the world burn.

He won't be laughing is a civil war breaks out and they start kicking down his door because he was at the wrong place at the wrong time.

[Leo656]

I think he already lives in a country where subservience to authority is absolute, but don't quote me on that as I don't actually remember.

Suffice to say, Over There is not Over Here.

[Sumac]

Originally Posted by FredWolfLeonardo

Armed citizen uprising is no match for the military, the difference in technology and fighting skill is far too great. The protestors aren't some fanatical guerilla force either, they will give up and get jabbed most likely when things get too tough for them to handle.

Guerilla war and partisan war are things.

And in general, even if Resistance is stomped in the ground by force, without popular support such government will last until its first major failure.

It only works in small countries, like Cuba or North Korea, where state an control basically every corner and every fart made by every citizen.

[Leo656]

Lest we forget how just over a year ago, a bunch of "insurrectionists" went in and "took over the Capitol" armed with little but their cell phones, did little but take selfies, and that was enough to have people like AOC pissing their panties and they're still trying to spin it as "worse than 9/11" because that's how badly they were shook by some silly nonsense like that.

They'd never send the armed forces in against regular people. Especially not the Libs who are trying to run things right now. They're not big on force, they're all about "negotiation".

Also, most people in the military hate the Democrats and would refuse to follow those type of orders. If commanded to turn on civilians most of them would just defy and obstruct. In which case the powers-that-be wouldn't know what to do. They can bark orders all they want but without anyone to carry them out it's meaningless. It would be pretty funny to see Sleepy Joe or Kama-Sutra Harris hop in a tank and tell people "You better do what you're told!" but let's be real, that wouldn't happen.

Our government only has exactly as much power as the citizens of this country are willing to concede. Whenever that becomes crystal clear, the "people in charge" always shift gears into "Hey, let's talk about this" pretty fast. At the end of the day, they're impotent cowards like anyone else who wears a suit for a living.

I'm aware it works differently in other parts of the world. But again, Over There is not Over Here.

[Sumac]

Originally Posted by Leo656

They'd never send the armed forces in against regular people. Especially not the Libs who are trying to run things right now. They're not big on force, they're all about "negotiation".

I feel it has less to do with a lack of desire, but with the fact, that even libs (in the government) understand, that doing something like that, would start a civil war.

Considering they are perfectly aware that half of the country, including some "minorities", want to see them ousted from power, pissing their rivals, moderates and even some of their allies, not in their best interests.

Naturally, it doesn't matter for a regular Twatter commie, who thinks that every problem can be solved with tanks and guns. For the great equality and justice, of course.

[mrmaczaps]

Originally Posted by Leo656

Lest we forget how just over a year ago, a bunch of "insurrectionists" went in and "took over the Capitol" armed with little but their cell phones, did little but take selfies, and that was enough to have people like AOC pissing their panties and they're still trying to spin it as "worse than 9/11" because that's how badly they were shook by some silly nonsense like that.

They'd never send the armed forces in against regular people. Especially not the Libs who are trying to run things right now. They're not big on force, they're all about "negotiation".

Also, most people in the military hate the Democrats and would refuse to follow those type of orders. If commanded to turn on civilians most of them would just defy and obstruct. In which case the powers-that-be wouldn't know what to do. They can bark orders all they want but without anyone to carry them out it's meaningless. It would be pretty funny to see Sleepy Joe or Kama-Sutra Harris hop in a tank and tell people "You better do what you're told!" but let's be real, that wouldn't happen.

Our government only has exactly as much power as the citizens of this country are willing to concede. Whenever that becomes crystal clear, the "people in charge" always shift gears into "Hey, let's talk about this" pretty fast. At the end of the day, they're impotent cowards like anyone else who wears a suit for a living.

I'm aware it works differently in other parts of the world. But again, Over There is not Over Here.

They will at some point, send the armed forces for us regular folks...

And that point will be when they start showing up at gun owners front doors doing no knock raids & slaughtering us... and starting the final world war.

[mrmaczaps]

Originally Posted by FredWolfLeonardo

Armed citizen uprising is no match for the military, the difference in technology and fighting skill is far too great. The protestors aren't some fanatical guerilla force either, they will give up and get jabbed most likely when things get too tough for them to handle.

Lol. You do know that at least half our military hates Bumbling murder Joe Biden, right? They'll quit & take some of those firearms with them. When that day comes, not if, WW3 starts.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by mrmaczaps

Lol. You do know that at least half our military hates Bumbling murder Joe Biden, right?

Much, much more than that. Since there is no draft and hasn't been for decades, we're talking about an armed forces comprised of people who volunteered for service and then remained in. This takes a certain kind of person. Largely, these are not (and kind of can't be) pacifists or "we need less military!" types... which really seem to comprise the majority of the left.